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'Telepathy is not a science'
I would think they could go with a brainwave altering force(through em) if the Xeno has some way to produce such a field?
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/brain-stimulation-therapies/brain-stimulation-therapies.shtml
Being in a 'xeno field' could cause seizures or make you feel great!
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It sums up the mess pretty good. Interesting that "the eggmorphing" wasn't intended to transform the victim into an egg. The victim was intended to be food for the egg (or what was in it).
Almost all ideas and themes will work well with Alien... Almost... Alien is sci-fi. Telepathy is not a science, not even a part, not even an assumption. It's a clear magic. I hope in Alien film will never be telepathy.
I debated making a separate thread for this video but I think it best serves the discussion in this thread :)
enjoy, Ze Goo
@Michelle Johnston what I was saying (maybe not very clearly) the provided information (David) can also respond to that question and some argue that Prometheus was always about David. And Because of Fassbender play always an @-hole is very unlikely someone from Fox would want anything else than an evil robot.
Big Chap knew that the only thing keeping it safe from a smackdown was the box that held Jonesy back XD
I didn't use the term "why would you make monsters" the guy from Fox did. It was his short hand for explaining Prometheus to himself and how to sell it. What I think is much more fertile territory is to look at why evil exists in an Intelligent Universe and what can go wrong. As Jon Spaiht's said the monsters simply signify the danger the Engineers can represent. Something had gone wrong already because the danger was to themselves as well.
The real issue is a part of humanity, represented by Elizabeth, tends to think that morality is the consequence of the benign circumstances in which we were created. What this story is capable of asking us to think about is can there be morality and dare I say love in an engineered universe. In Foxes terms do all robots have to be bad.
In this story we were going to be destroyed 2,000 years ago but we were actually saved, coincidence? Important? If it were important then that suggests someone is at least interested if not benignly supportive and yet its an intelligent universe where everything is a construction one way or another. How would a God of an Engineered Universe respond to rebellion, its happened, how do you put it right?
So we now have three questions.
How does an Engineered Universe go wrong?
How would the powers respond ?
How would you put it right?
At that point of the movie, the Xeno's objective seemed to be getting to safety. Jones was clearly not a threat. Perhaps the xeno just observed J as a curiosity. Maybe it was as simple as that- but I wonder if it was some kind of acknowledgement that it recognized another living creature but was not related to its target- humans. Perhaps the xeno displayed a form of ethics.
"returning to the original concept and ideas of a truly alien organism is what the franchise needs to continue"
I too may sound like a broken record here. Showing different aspects of the Alien can be a great way to give it a breath of fresh air. In an unused ending, it mimicked a human voice with the intent of misleading the comms' recipient. I have heard that in at least one of the novelizations that it had telepathic powers.
Introducing these concepts in movie form would seem new for a movie, but they are from past lore, so it wouldn't be like writers would be just making up things.
OK. I look forward to reading it, Michelle.
I'm with Gavin on the Xeno.
Probably a great topic for another thread..but....What advantages could a bio-mechanical xeno have over purely biological one?
@BigDave
I would doubt it, as by then its likely Mankind has Terra-formed and Discovered other Earth like Worlds
Yeah....Think I would write it so many of the Earth's colonies have been overrun and the further they explore..the more xeno infested worlds they find.....In fact they find billions of worlds with nothing but xenos/trilobytes/deacons/hammerpeades and other really nasty creatures.
In episode 10...they finally leave the galaxy(no where to hide)......but after arriving to the brand new one(1,000 years later or something) they find it's even worse!
*spoiler alert!*
They find a correlation between dark matter/energy and xeno infestations!
The End.
@chli
There are two issues (at least) which I back filed :-
1) Why the Lone Craft has a different cargo.(Damon says in the commentary that will probably never get answered. I get that its detail which doesn't affect the themes) If your going to (go there) which i did it cannot be gratuitous it has to be for story. Its connected to Piero della francesca's - The Nativity, which is a signpost to go there and the rest unfolds.
2) The metaphor for the Promethean's (LV223) and the Deacon is Weyland/David. Weyland loved his creation for himself because he achieved it. But equally he despised (The Hologram speech) and feared him (David's wake up scene). The other similarity (in my story) between the Promethean's and Weyland is they are both rebelling to whatever their natural order is. However the reason for the Prometheus movement (the theft of technology) is about a failure on both sides.
3) The pilot of the Lone craft is on a specific journey and his obliteration is the most violent because he was going to pursue the greatest evil. He is caught in the story of appropriate sacrifice.
4) In an intelligent universe where creation is neither magnanimous or accidental the methodology is inevitably going to appear brutal, unsympathetic and violent. Someone has to do the heavy lifting. The question is there any grace in this any sense of value for the participants. I took the chant and the delivery of the sacrament as being one of noble sacrifice and because what is being transmitted (in my story), is the most precious commodity of this Universe, it has value and is understood to do so. The donation is not simply about the creation tool if it was you would just throw the imbibing cup in the falls it is about the material and the vessel that carries it. It is a rite of passage not just superstitious mumbo jumbo. For the viewer of the movie to consider it smj is to miss the point of the story, this is about an Engineered nuts and bolts creation. Obviously there will always be smart asses that no everything about creation and say it doesn't hold up as a plausible idea but this is provocative entertainment which is intended to make you think not a NASA dissertation.
In closing there are lots of reasons why Prometheus is an exceptional movie which will grow its cult status but there are many reasons why it fails with people and not least because its prime method of communication is thematic and symbolic which doesn't fit the fanbase or the modern audiences preoccupation with bit by bit detail over suspension.
BigDave
It seems that W-Y Corp. declined after the Fiorina incident. Perhaps that’s the answer why no more projects were launched (They gave up trying to get hold of a xenomorph)?
The Aurora was run by the USM (not by W-Y). But how did they get the information about the xenomorph and why 200 years later (Well, it was founded in 2226)?
IMO the Queen aspect has been done to death, and as evidenced by BigDaves replies is what many consider to be the Alien.
I know I may sound like a stuck record but the alien as depicted in the first movie has not been explored since that movie, and I believe returning to the original concept and ideas of a truly alien organism is what the franchise needs to continue and to evolve because fans and audiences are tired of Queens, Facehuggers, and Chestbursters.
IMO the more organic, more insectoid, and less threatening alien we saw in all but the first movie can easily be explained as a variant form that did not originate from the cache off eggs Kane discovered, but instead from another part of the derelict. Once we clarify this the narrative choices afforded to us from an endlessly adaptive alien thing that I like to think as neither organic nor mechanic but both (organic robot meets mechanical creature)
Michelle
I read your “The Furious Gods Answers” (I also watched the documentary) and I think I agree with most of your conclusions. I’m especially pleased that the Space Jockey is an Engineer (and not David for instance). :) He was also connected to the outbreak on LV-223, but it isn’t, perhaps, quite clear why there were eggs rather than mutagen in the cargo hold?
Why would you create monsters? Well, Frankenstein’s “monster” and David became monsters because they were treated badly. But why did the Engineers worship the Deacon (if that’s what they did)? Was it just a biological weapon made to eradicate worlds, why then worship it?
The theodicy problem is, in a way, easily solved since the Engineers were neither gods nor benevolent. The seeding Engineers were savages dealing with hominid sacrifice and the LV-223 Engineers were mass murderers.
I think “Prometheus: The Furious Gods” is a good title, resembling “The Wrath of God”. But since humans and Engineers are cousins, I wonder if there is a furious God looking down on both of them? :)
I think we have to Remember that RS is Hands On, he likes using SETS and not CGI, it also helps the Actors on Set so they can get a Picture of what is around them, rather than to Imagine it.
I would assume IF the Movie had the Green Light for 1-2 Sequels to be made 3-5 years after, then YES they would KEEP the SET.... but with the Take Over and Disappointment putting the Franchise in LIMBO.
Then chances are the SET could be taken down and Sold/Scraped.
I think its safe to assume.... the Xenomorph has TWO Objectives.
WHAT can it use to Procreate....
WHAT would pose a Threat to its Existence and ability to Procreate.
So Jonesy would be seen as NOT a threat, but then maybe a Viable Means to Procreate.
Regarding FOOD, i would assume if the Xenomorph requires such things (indicated in drafts/novels) then it would not PASS UP a Jonesy Snack!
Regarding HOW FAR away places like Planet 4 and Origae-6 are these depends on knowing either their Distance in Light Years, or how FAST the Covenant could Travel.
What we know is it must have taken 10-12 Months to Reach Planet 4 and it would have taken another 7 Years and 4 Months to get to Origae-6 (minus few weeks). It had taken the Prometheus 2 Years to get to LV-223, we can assume LV-223 and LV-426 are located close by certainly at most a few Light Years, and the Nostromo would have taken 10 Months to get back to our System.
So what we have is a Improvement in Space Travel as our Technology Advances, i think Regarding Communication Times thats a Good Question, we have to ASSUME that Communications would take about the same time that the Current Ships FTL Technology takes, but its just a Assumption. I think there was some Information on how long the Covenants Transmission to Weyland-Yutani would take i would have to try and Locate it... but i think it was 12-18 Months? Not 100% Sure.
I can only Assume that Dr Shaws Transmission from LV-223 was via the Life-Boat and we can only Ponder when this STOPPED being Transmitted and WHY.... regarding the Planet 4 one then it appeared to be a Fluke on how the Covenant Managed to Detect it.
I would assume that Planet 4 maybe had some way it Prevents Signals, and maybe the Neutrino Burst could have effected this? Or even if not, it appeared that the Signal was Weak and it was only via the Neutrino Burst Event that they would have detected it.
Regarding what becomes of LV-223, Planet 4 and Origae-6 thats a BIG QUESTION... i think it depends on the Agenda of who ever would be there LAST!
Would the Engineers want to ERADICATE those Places... i would assume so, i think some of Mankind would want to Destroy them too, but HOW? but you will have some Greedy Corporation who would always want to Preserve the Place... would they want to DESTROY them ONCE they have obtained a Specimen to Prevent others from Obtaining the Same? I would think so... unless Mankind is GOVERNED by ONE Ruling Body/Counsel.
@MonsterZero
I know a number of Fans would have wanted to see a HELL ON EARTH where Xenomorphs Finally got down and had Infested the Planet.
We dont know IF this had happened in the Past, post ALIEN 3, but would assume its NOT the case or at least to a Great Extent by the Year 2386, so a likely PLACE in Time for your idea could be as a Result of the USM Auriga Destruction/Crash and the Aftermath on Earth.
The Earth already looked in a State of War/Destruction prior to that... so some Conflict had Occurred that maybe was NOT related to the Xenomorph, and likely the Acquiring of a Xenomorph was the Plan to Engineer a Weapon for the Benefit of ONE side of such a Earth Conflict.
So indeed maybe 50, 100 or more years after the Events of Alien Resurrection the Earth could be Infested... would MANKIND want the Earth back?
I would doubt it, as by then its likely Mankind has Terra-formed and Discovered other Earth like Worlds... and Technology and Speeds to get to those Worlds would be GREATLY improved compared to the Time of ALIEN.
But as FAR as to go back to obtain some Relics, Artifacts, Art or other Parts of History then i think YES some would want to go and try and RESCUE such Historic things.... at what COST?
Taking a Risk to bring back a Xenomorph Infection would be a Hubris of such a Endeavor so YES that could work as a Movie or TV Series ;)
Archeologist and the like take Great Risks in exploring the Sea Floor for such things... rather than to let them ROT and be Forgotten, they take the Risks to Recover them... so YES as a Plot that works for me ;)
@Chli
Certainly i remember having a similar discussion on another thread some time back, where INDEED that is something i Overlooked then, which then i had discussed that actually INDEED, if you know you have a Gestating Queen (depends on how much you know about the Organism) then if the Company know about a Queen and that it would indeed Provide them with Eggs... then going down and obtaining a Gestating Queen/Chest Buster would be more IDEAL and much more SAFE... you can Control and Set-Up a Safe Containment for a Queen thats NOT a Adult.... and obtaining a Queen is a avenue to more Eggs, than actually the Dangers of going to LV-426 to obtain Eggs or try and obtain a Queen.
It would seem the USCSS Patna could already had been heading towards LV-426, and so getting a Message that Fiona 161 has a Impregnated Host with a Queen would mean they would NOT have to go to LV-426.
So INDEED only going after Ripley does-not mean all other Avenues are BUST... not as Far as the Aliens-Alien 3 Time-Line and so it would leave it open to go to LV-426 and look at what could be Salvaged in the wake of Ripleys Self Sacrifice.
I think it still leaves the Point about Alien Resurrection as Valid, to a degree.... but again IF they think that Clone Ripley in order to obtain and then try and Extract Xenomorph DNA/Queen is the better way than going back to LV-426 and the Risks Involved, we have to ask WHY did they WAIT over 200 years?
I think sure they could have tried to go back to LV-426 after the Year 2179, maybe they attempted and Failed and this lead to NO OTHER means of obtaining a Organism at some point in Future... Post 2180 and Prior to 2380
So in context to the OT, then YES we could explore avenues for movies based from LV-426 after ALIEN 3 but then i think Eventually before we get to 2380 then i would ASSUME they have NO options but to try and Clone Ripley.
The Prequels are a Different Kettle of Fish, we dont know how they would END, so we dont know if Planet 4 and LV-223 are left as they are at Present (Year 2105) and remain the same as of 2122, i think its possible... but i would ASSUME that by the Time of ALIENS in 2179 that those Places have NOTHING they consider worth going for apart from Ripley.
More so 200 Years latter, as going to LV-426, LV-223 and Planet 4 would be more suitable than to Clone Ripley, well maybe you would think IF there was other avenues MANY YEARS after 2180 then they surely would have ATTEMPTED....
I guess that could give another avenue for another Movie too ;)
@Michelle Johnston To be very honest "Why would you make monsters?" is answered also answering by studying the case of David the incel Android and his rapey urges.
Hi Chilli,
The reason why I called the two books Theodicy was just a slight variation of your interpretation. Essentially it is why is there evil in the world. During the documentary the gentleman from Fox says Prometheus is about "Why would you make monsters." That is a nice Fox power phrase which is essentially saying the same thing.
I think you get to the root of why Lindelof/Scott's Prometheus 2 was never made. Not only does Prometheus hijack the Alien Universe but it would then have moved forward with an even handed view of outcomes. The Alien straight jacket does not allow for that, the brand is about horror and monsters within a dystopian vision.
The reason I wrote the continuation novel was very selfish I wanted to be able to watch Prometheus knowing that what happened meant something.
But when Elizabeth and David set off into the heavens I decided I could take the story anywhere. We didn't have to do bad robot though he might be. We didn't have to do gung-ho Lesbian icon woman more empowered than men who survives.
I think the ultimate message of the books is centred on Ridleys comment it is arrogance to suppose two things :-
1) We are alone.
2) We are the big players we maybe a side show.
If the books reveal anything personal rather than tell a story it is my view of who we are and why we are the way we are.
And for anyone else reading this thread thanks for keeping it on topic which is essentially:-
1) Prometheus July 2012 and what was intended.
2) What an obsessive hobbyist has done to solve a problem.
Finally I am quite energised by watching the documentary and have decided rather than the rather intellectualised title I have changed it to
Prometheus : The Furious Gods.
It looks great, it sounds great and it has application.
I still can't believe they rebuilt the Space Jockey set. Such a small little scene..could have built it digitally. Maybe they stored it and are going to use it for Covenant 2?
Not enough nutrients in a cat....Not enough of a meal?
Sense of smell must be incredible? determining Ripley was carrying a queen.
I really don't know why a xeno attacks anything...can they smell fear pheromones?
If the hero stood still or stayed 'frosty' would the xeno ingnore them?
Michelle
I guess I’ll wait to comment until I’ve read your story but “theodicy” is the problem of how a benevolent and omnipotent God can accept different kinds of evil and misery in his creation. I’m very much interested in your solution.
Also, I came to think about what Tolkien said in “On Fairy-Stories”. Stories should have a happy ending ("eucatastrophe”). Perhaps R. Scott’s visions are too dystopic?
Anyway, I look very much forward to reading your story.
Leto Nice find! That seems too close to be a coincidence. I wonder if there were writers involved in both movies or if there was an old script or template writers worked from for both movies.
@chli
You are most welcome to read it. I am currently going through a period of revision. Much of it is routine sharpening both the prose and dialogue so it speaks more directly but also the art work on the Blu ray has inspired me to offer richer descriptions so I will continue to work on that and get back to you. As matter of interest where the art work anticipates and covers the same areas are :-
1) Elizabeths first site of the surreal beauty of their achievements oddly enough she approaches it in the same way in my work as the original ending of the film where she comes across a wonderful terra formed under ground cavern.
2) The source of their technology.
3) Their natural look (as opposed to the altered state of the LV223 creatures).
At a philosophical level I gave a lot of thought to the revelation of mankind's beginning why are we "a silly greedy people", what caused the destruction of LV 223 (which I do not think is what Ridley intended but thematically its identical) but the most interesting element is why did the Engineers start "making monsters." It has always been in the story but I am now making it clearer and it has a good deal to do thematically with both Frankenstein's Monster and David and of course shifts into Bladerunner territory. Its much more subtle than the paranoid world view that children will always want to destroy their parents. Its what happens if you take the love embodied in natural procreation out of the equation and do things as Charlie said "because we could"?
How much is me (Shaw) ? Wow thats an interesting question. When you write an extension each foot step you give Elizabeth and David has to be very very carefully worked over.
Elizabeth is more driven than ever "I want to go where they come from." and much more aware. "what if they are no better than us". But also "I cannot create life." for her that was a big thing and plays heavily into the story. She loved her parents and shared her fathers belief's thats important to her momentum. In terms of risk she is beyond caring she is out there alone there is only one way to go, forward, in that sense she is reckless. What happens when she finds the truth? Well without story in other words interaction with the narrative I am sure it would be to much for any human being to deal with. However the story gives her support. David is "looking for meaning" (Damon) and I keep on with that as well as Michael's view of David that he is ambiguous. You are not certain of him until the middle of Act 2.
But the key theme for both of them is connected to the tree of knowledge. If you come up against the most elemental forces of the Universe you cannot survive unchanged. If your looking for normality after all this .. its just not possible.
So Shaw/me I think its broader than that I think she continues as Damon intended to be proxy for all of us. However it seems to me if you want to be as authentic as possible you have to say how would I deal with all these horrors both physically and philosophically. People always say I don't know how you go on and the response is always I have no other option that is part of the answer. Ridley is also helpful on that because he puts Noomi Rapace the actor in that place after she survives the collision of the craft. David opens up the possibility of her questions being answered for her, thats what keeps her going and that is what drives her all through my story.
I would finish by saying I have always said that the Alien Lifecycle represents non consensual creation by sacrifice on the one hand and at the other end of spectrum the natural lifecycle, consensual creation driven by love. I think in this enlarged story there is a third way, a middle way, consensual creation by third party interference. Not only can the Alien Lifecycle be a counterfeit version of the middle way but what if you decide you would rather create for your own agenda rather than for the whim of others? Might you end up being immortalised in a temple fresco having given birth by Caesarean to your own idea of life, however bizarre the result, at least its "yours".
https://myloveofprometheus.blogspot.com/2019/08/the-making-of-prometheus.html
The Seven Topics I chose to answer are :-
1) The meaning of the waterfall incident.
2) Is the story religious.
3) The Geography. How was the LV chosen and why were their five pyramids.
4) Is the Space Jockey an Engineer.
5) The Catalyser and the Mutagen.
6) The cause of the Outbreak?
7) The Deacon and The Creature.
The most obvious point I would make is the extra blu ray disc is an extra ordinary detailed body of work which not only provides direct answers but also by endless repetitive inference, makes some matters clear and I recommend those interested acquire it.
Three things really surprised:-
1) The sense of oneness of vision of Jon/Damon and Ridley. Indeed Jon is the most eloquent in describing Prometheus even though initially the mission and outbreak in his drafts were different. Those distinctions do not affect the thematic ideas being offered. Indeed I was impressed at the singularity of vision of everyone.
2) Maybe its because people are very anti religious and simply like to pigeon hole it as Love Craftian and that sidetracked me but there is no doubt Ridleys intension was to tell a story about a purposeful creation which would have a view about who made the Engineers - God. It is just that God and the Soul would be defined from a different perspective to an Abrahamic benevolent God with heaven for the souls of the departed. But the scenes with Elizabeth's father, Weyland's Holographic talk about the soul and the fact that Elizabeth was a believer were not part of the story by coincidence they are key.
3) As someone who took the original narrative themes and ran with them I was looking for more clues as to where they intended to go next. LV223 was anthrax island where to use a colloquialism they made monsters and the point of the film was to give context as to why they made the cargo of Eggs. So the "cool ideas" which Ridley and Damon discussed would have taken us to somewhere entirely different. By the time we leave LV223 we know we do not like our creators and that creation far from being driven by a benign God is driven by something we don't actually care for. So we have as context Frankenstein/Monster, Weyland/David. Why don't the Monster and David like their creator and become adversarial? So whether the planet looks crack jack or not in story terms thats what I think David and Elizabeth were coming into.
The Engineers of the Pebble ship are described as noble savages, I would add to that the scene that plays out is violent and aggressive. This it seems to me moves in on where Ridley was going. To make a story out of a planned creation where there was no emotional connection between creator and created and this is where David coming along acts as our proxy.
I don't like the first AVP film, nor do I hate it, but I do like it a lot better than The Predator (2018).
*spoiler alert*
'Planet of the Xenomorphs' is actually Earth.
The research station is a surviving humans/synths who would still like to save some of Earth's countless artifacts. They venture down to the surface to collect targeted items.
They base themselves on Mars and formulate a plan to eradicate the xeno.
Mini-series. 10 parts. Netflix
If humanity is down to 20-30 million souls......Would they still want to reclaim the Earth?
chli 'How fast can they communicate?'
I'd love to know this!
Ha Ha.... Nice Share Leto..
Wonder if we can Find 21 Similarities between AVPR and Alien Covenant ;)
“We eventually would have to Conclude that the Company can only Obtain the Xenomorph from Ellen Ripley in Alien 3.”
Does it necessarily have to be so? The company knew she had a queen inside her which of course they would like to get their hands on. Fiorina 161 might also be closer so they can obtain it rather quickly and easily?
We don’t know how far it is to Planet 4 or Origae-6 but we know that it took more than 2 years to reach LV-223. Is everything that was on them, buildings, xenomorphs, neomorphs, deacon, pathogen etc obliterated? Or, is it perhaps more costly and risky to explore these places (including if the Derelict and the cargo survived the explosion of the atmosphere processor on LV-426)?
I also ponder on the transmissions that Shaw and David did. Today transmissions would travel at the speed of light, that is much faster than a space ship can travel. In the Alien Universe, ships can travel faster than the speed of light. How fast can they communicate?
I think with any Movie that is a Horror or Poses/Introduces a Threat to Humanity, then it is just as much how unprepared and helpless the Humans are that is just as important as HOW Deadly the Monster is.
The imagining of being in their shoes and not being equipped to deal with the situation... The most Uper Powerful of Monsters for example THE THING, it was not quite the Horror that the Monster Proposes the Danger of being Attacked... it was the Psychological Impact of NOT KNOWING who is Infected or Not, which really makes the Situation Tense for those Humans.... and this relays back to the Viewer....
I think it comes down to how we interpret the Various Franchise Movies, certainly looking at ALIEN alone can lead us to a Conclusion about the Xenomorph, it seemed to have a more Personal and Sadistic approach to Hunting the Crew, especially Deleted Scenes, where as the Rest of the Franchise including Alien Covenant seems to give the Impression of a Organism that relies on Instinct and Survival, something that has no MORAL Compass and is neither Evil or Good.
I know some do think the Xenomorph was Invulnerable due to the Comment by ASH in that you CANT kill it... i interpret this as they cant KILL it under the Circumstances as to do so would put them in Jeopardy (Hull Breach), i also go by that Dutch Comment "if it BLEEDS it Dies"
So i think while some of the Franchise had Diminished the Xenomorph i think that to have it being something TOO POWERFUL really does not work so well, i think having the Horrors have a Weakness works better, like how even Vampires and Werewolves have Weaknesses, if a Monster had NONE then what we have is like a Super Hero Movie Aggressor, where the only Solution is a Counter even more Powerful Hero etc....
so with a Monster that is Really Powerful/Deadly it Limits what you can do with it, because HOW does anyone Survive? A Good Example is THE THING.....
It works in a Secluded Area so the Antarctic or if we had it on a Space Ship/Station... but if it gets into a more Populated Place.... say The Thing invades New York... then how do you stop it?
I think again the Part of them being able to Speak etc would be Creepy but how would this FIT with the rest of the Franchise?
Thats WHY I think when you have something that has become Stagnated and Diminished then sometimes its best to have a Clean Slate... and by that to Introduce a New Monster or Variant of it that then takes on some of those Traits that was Intended by Ridley Scott, to give us a Ultramorph so to speak.....
Or Introduce us to a more Ancient Monster thats related, as we can Speculate from WHERE and HOW the Black Goo was able to Create Horrors like the Deacon, Neomorph and how a Xenomorph could be Engineered from it.
So to introduce something NEW that is Ancient that is similar to the Xenomorph but more Intelligent and Powerful could be the way to go.... The Starbeast!
I would add the Re generator from RE4 as well, but this is a good list.
I think we are drawn to things we fear or are unknown naturally. We like to know and make sense of things. If we can't connect the dots logically, our brains might fill in the blanks or other people might tell us how to interpret what we don't know while they have no idea either.
I look at games as I do movies or music- it is basically experiencing fear at a safe distance. Sort of like a carnival ride. We want to get as close as possible to experiencing that fear or even the balance of life or death while knowing deep down that we are safe- pretty sure...
Games are a bit different from movies or music since they require more actual engagement and not just observing or listening. Small wonder why games are so popular.
I am still not a FAN of the Xenomorph being able to Imitate a Human or have a Telepathic Link, mainly in case of HOW this could conflict the Franchise...
It is definitely a matter of opinion. I like the idea since it recalls an original script that got canned. Just my opinion, but I would be hyped to see a movie go this direction. We know the beast is a bad ass, but now we could see it become deliberately sinister and not just animalistic. And that is what has been missing from the franchise for decades- making the creature piss your pants/afraid to go to bed scary. A true Devil! But to stay true to the first movie, it would leave animals (Jonesy) alone.
That is where I would like to see things go regarding the Alien itself.
As for WY, David, Engineers, Call- those are just as worthy imo. Depends on who goes first.
Yes BigDave, I thoroughly enjoy this movie as a stand alone pop corn flick.
