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I certainly think the Reveal about the Black Goo gives us a Greater Scope towards different variations of Xenomorphs and Related Organisms. I also think the Experiments in Alien Resurrection gave us something more to Ponder about than the Traditional Camerons Aliens... Eggs, Xenomorphs and Queens.
"unless he bans technology(Promethean fire)."
This is a interesting point to raise, one i pondered about including in my ideas for a AC Sequel.... So its not beyond the realms of possibility if David does say raise Engineered Human Embryo's that he could have this Colony/Culture set up on a Part of the Planet were they Build their World with Simple Means, so that they would be living with Technology that was not available say a 1000 years ago.

A LITERAL Building of Cabins on a Lake and with some Religious/Cultist Element brought in then it could be like using some of the WOODEN World but instead of a Like Wooden Death Star.... have this to literally show a Colony that has Shunned Technology in favor of more simple Life.
We kind of get the idea the Planet 4 Engineers may have taken this route themselves...
I wonder where David would have PARKED the Covenant, and surely at times he would go back and forth to where it was, it would be a Question of HOW and WHAT happens if those Colonist he Raised Discovered it?
I guess it would depend on WHAT David had told about the Covenant, its Mission and HOW those Colonist got there.. Off Course this means regarding Raising of Children or Engineered Embryos.... and not the Covenants Adult Occupants as they would be aware of all of this.
Could David had used the Technology to a Certain Point to Build his Colony/Outpost and then SHUNNED and Abandoned the Technology? There is so many ways to have explored what David does and what kind of a World would be Built.
I think thats another Good Raised point Leto.
When i had looked at the Covenant and the other Cargo Lander/Crane i had assumed maybe this would be how they take down the Modular Compartments. But indeed maybe overlooking any real BACK-UP Plan. Because as you rightfully pointed out, should this be the ONLY means to move Compartments from the Covenant and this Got Destroyed then they would be up £$%"£ Creek without a Paddle.
So a Back Up Plan would be to have the Covenant be able to LAND... But maybe also the Ship is intended to LAND and the Landers/Cargo Ship are used to get stuff from the Landed Covenant to other locations on the Surface.
When i made such assumptions was prior to the Covenant Origins Novel, and Overlooking the Ship has having ONLY TWO Landers (Had 3 in the Novel from what i heard). And so having TWO Main Drop Ships (One Destroyed) and One Craft to Move Large Objects around would seem like Putting all their Eggs in ONE basket
@Ingeniero
That Part of the Ship does look like they are some kind of Secondary Propulsion and so they could likely be used to AID with the Landing of the Ship. Much like how we see the Secondary Propulsion Engines only be used by the Lander's when they are in the Planets Atmosphere to help with Vertical Lift and Landing.
Something i should have considered that the Covenants Main Ship would also have.
For what it is worth, I reached out to my Netflix account but don't know if I did it correctly. I am trying to advocate for the indies. Let me know if there is a better method.
Also, the corn bread should be counted as rations for crew members thus no charge.
Seriously, the coin should not be offered to citizens of North Sentinel Island. They don't seem to GAF about outsiders let alone trinkets.
Ultimately, I would want to know if the 1 dollar would be legal tender outside an Alien Convention. "You are a dollar short for your pair of shoes. Do you have a rectangular Alien Coin I can fit into the till?" Expensive either way.
yeah not sure about the rectangular design, it looks like a little iPhone lol
Would have been cool with an Alien Queen head effigy....but then it wouldn't be able to be used as legal tender I guess.
I dont' know im confused on that lol. Here's a riddle...…. You pay $100 for a $1 coin and then trade it for corn-bread do you get $1 or $100 worth of corn-bread in return XD
I wonder how much corn bread this coin could buy...
LOL! Alien will outlive any Ruler so the $115 might be worth it. Here is Her Majesty's side of the coin- rectangular? Thanks for the share!

It can happen. The talent and know how is there. It seems like an obvious way to go.
ahh the memories! That was a great thread!
so much talent out there making kick-ass fan films. Thanks for re-visiting that thread :)
From what I can see, it looks somewhat like Isolation- that is a compliment!
I don't get too deep in the weeds about the entire history, but this looks really well put together. I don't recall seeing it in a movie and maybe it is from a novel, but the first Planet LV-426, Year 2179 image is interesting.
I also really like the over all style of the pics. It looks very comic book yet better and the images just "pop" over all.
Im going to 'sticky' this in the Alien forum so its always at the top of the forum posts for members to see.
Your dedication to this project is an inspiration to us all!
wow IIapagokc! The xeno modelling is incredible!
Looks perfectly like the Hadley Hope variant
Top work!
Excellent work Ingeniero! that is a cool look!
it is interesting BigDave, to talk about imposing a faith on your children in the context of the movie.
It, religion, makes sense if you are mortal though. If you are eternal, the question of who made you and (who made that maker) makes little sense - you have infinite time to figure out how to make living things on your own. However, you might be supplemented by a legend that there is life after death so that you are perhaps pacified this way and lead on a wrong path if you are mortal. In both cases though the goal is the same : eternal life. One reaches it by virtue of not dying, the other way is a eternal life after death. So it makes sense to question which way is better. Of two ways only one has benefit of serializing them, that is trying out both ways : suppose you are immortal - you can always decide for yourself the other way - life after death.
So, if David grants his children some sort of immortality(by regen, or just making them that much durable in the first place) then he doesn't need to give them a "legend"(in time, inescapably, they will figure out for themselves if what they were told is true or not). On the other hand, he will have to indoctrinate his children one way or the other if he doesn't make them immortal - otherwise he will not be able to contain the quest for immortality, unless he bans technology(Promethean fire).
I think this movie has numerous intriguing possibilities, if one rejects the "march towards inevitable". The question is how will the money paying individuals decide.
Awesome news!
Your xenomorph is great and the detail on the walls is perfect. Thank you for the work.
I have highlighted what i mean in this image, i wonder if the Origins Book does mention anything about the Covenants Nature as in what i was assuming it would do.
Got it. I think that these modules will be separated from the ship after landing on the Origae-6. Separation in space and then transportation to the planet with a Cargo Lift looks like a thousands of hours and very very hard work. Btw, if Cargo Lift will broken - dead end. Well, i think that some modules (or internal cargo) will transported to the planet to prepare the landing site for the Covenant.
"i feel that comment is a Acknowledgement that during Period Between Movies that Plans can Change. Such as the Fate of Dr Shaw... i would have said at the Time of Prometheus and say the 6-12 months after Release, that Dr Shaws Plans would not have been to merely appear as a Corpse."
That is most likely spot on BigDave. I'm still clinging to hope to see when Dr. Shaw says no to David but I know that's not likely.
It is nice to see Ridley Scott able to explore the concepts he spoke about before...even if it isn't in film nor based in Alien. Ridley Scott said he had around 37 hours of film from shooting Alien: Covenant...so who knows what that includes.
WOW! Looks amazing! I like the details: arm blades, fingers and anthropomorphic legs.
to meet in a dark corridor it will be cheerful?
Sure. Meet with Pulse Rifle. ;)
The Covenant ship was built in Earth orbit (according to Alien: Covenant Origins) and most likely would be difficult to launch from the surface so I believe you're correct in regards to taking off Leto. The engines below look like they could move into place for a landing.

Excellent BigDave, thank you. I got to say that the Covenant ship modules do resemble a familiar structure. Hadley's Hope does look like these modules broken down, below.


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Captain Oram does mention "housing units" and "civic complex" when speaking of a landing site to Daniels, below.

I have highlighted what i mean in this image, i wonder if the Origins Book does mention anything about the Covenants Nature as in what i was assuming it would do.

Indeed and forgive me... i was not trying to be Ignorant, i have yet to Read the Origins Book ;)
Something i must do ;) (get round to reading it).
Does it give much insight into the Operation of the Ship? As i was assuming based on the Modular Design and the Purpose of the ONE Lander. I was also thinking IF we consider the Covenant a Real Mission, then taking down Pieces off the Ship to be assembled on the Planet and keeping the Ship in Orbit makes sense as the Ship could then function as a Satellite/Communications Platform and it would also be a Back Up Plan and Means of Escape... and also useful to have as a EYE in the SKY to help Monitor the Planet.
But having the Ship Land would maybe Limit such Potential, have to say with ONLY One Main Lander (other Destroyed in AC Origins) it would take a long time to Transport Thousands of People.
Looking at the Design of the Covenant and trying to think Scientifically, it would appear such a Design would have difficulty in taking off ONCE it had landed on a World with Gravity and Forces like Earth.
Those are interesting Questions...
I think that Genetic Engineering is plausible, if we look at it from Davids Perspective, IF he could create a Human that is Superior to Humans and Engineers, then he would have achieved Greater than his Creator and his Creators Creator too. IF David can Engineer those Embryos so that they become more Immortal then he would have Unlocked the Secrets that Weyland had came to seek out his Makers for (LV-223).
This fits very well with the Themes/Philosophy that we saw in Prometheus/Alien Covenant and so when i ASSUME the potential is there for some kind of Plot like this in the Sequel, i am not sure it could be ruled out...
How would Humanity View such Evolved Humans. They could maybe see them as a THREAT, how would these Super Humans View Humanity? This depends on what they know and are shown by David.
If you could take some Infants and Raise them on another World or Island you can teach them anything... you could say the MOON is made of Cheese and WHO are they to Question it? So what ever David wishes to Teach them he can, i think this is a Theme that runs with the Prequels and Paradise Lost... Knowledge is EVERYTHING
If we look at that Synopsis for Raised by Wolves we can see what a difficult task it is to raise different people who have different views and Religions, as INDEED... if you could Start Again on a NEW World and have ONE Religion, then it would be a ideal way to Control, and Maintain Peace. (Differences in Culture and Religion/Belief does/can lead to Conflicts).
A interesting thing is when you take some Children and Manipulate what ever Knowledge and Truth to them.... the BIG QUESTION.. is what happens when they DISCOVER the Truth? So in Davids Example.... they discover that all that DAVID has taught is Lies? This surely would lead to a Rebellion.... Regarding Raised by Wolves, what happens when the Children who may then have different views on Religion to each other Discover their Faiths are False?
How would the Engineers view David's Enhanced Humans, they could be interested and intrigued in what David has accomplished and interested in David himself... but they could also see them as a THREAT
If the Engineers are the Planet 4 ones, then they could maybe see what David is doing as Echoing what they had done years ago (maybe Genetically Engineer/Evolve those Prometheus Engineers). And at what COST that may have been, so they could see History Repeat itself with what David is doing (assuming he will try and Engineer his own Humans).
If the Returning Engineers are the Prometheus Ones, and indeed they were a Engineered/Evolved Experiment/Creation by the Planet 4 Engineers or a Faction of those Engineers who had Engineered themselves this way, they could maybe see History Repeat and know what THREAT that could be... because they was that Threat to the Planet 4 Engineers themselves.
These i feel are all the kinds of Interesting Ideas that Ridley Scott is a Fan of, but INDEED these are proving to be a Side-track and Distraction from ALIEN but we have to remember, the Intention at the time of PROMETHEUS was to make a New Franchise that Steers Away from ALIEN. So i dont think RS was 100% happy with the direction Alien Covenant had taken.
Regarding Daniels... maybe she could be used for Davids Genetic Experiments he could use her Reproductive Cells to Engineer Humanoids, he could also use them to Produce Xenomorph Eggs.
Katherine Waterston did say that a while back she had heard some interesting Rumors as far as where they could take her Character.... now i think for her to hear Rumors is more likely she had heard some of the ideas they was pondering with her Character.... but she then said of she could END UP in a Body Bag... i feel that comment is a Acknowledgement that during Period Between Movies that Plans can Change. Such as the Fate of Dr Shaw... i would have said at the Time of Prometheus and say the 6-12 months after Release, that Dr Shaws Plans would not have been to merely appear as a Corpse.
Well, that's not a point. That's AC: Origins. ;)
I certainly think that eventually the ship could be landed provided it finds the suitable location, and then indeed Leto it may be very unlikely once it does so, it would be stranded on the surface.
The Ship appeared to have some kind of Modular Look to some of its Compartments, and looking at the Lander that Tennessee used to rescue Daniels and Co... it seemed to me that the Ship's Modules would be taken down Bit by Bit.
But that does-not mean the Ship cant be landed on a surface, so thats a Good Point.
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I am not sure the Covenant was intended to be Landed...
Covenant can landed. But can't start to flying. If David land the ship, he will remain on the planet forever.
David already had a bit of experience of human missions when the Covenant got to planet 4 - in the end he lost his wrist.(granted, he gained something as well from the Covenant)
David got his xenomorph children, the wolves. He might go ahead and make "sheep" ones - human based children, whom he gifts immortality. He will do as he pleases.
And just to recap, at this point he has an effective bio-weapon, but also, an unpredictable and potentially non-cooperative violent species with chips on both of their shoulders digging for resurrection.
So, would it not make sense for David to somehow deal/diffuse the danger factor coming from the mortal species? Can he make use of his children? Can they rebel? What would engineers think of David's creations anyway if they see them? What would humans think of their cousins? Imagine if he uses Daniels to mother his first evolved bio-child. Won't she have a conflict wrt to the organism she gives birth to?
But off course... that Shot looks exactly like the Area they LAND in Alien Covenant. She has never been to Origae-6 and we dont know what any Probes showed, so its likely the Vision she had would have been how she IMAGINED it would have looked like.
But by Actually using the same location they SHOT the Landing Site, they open up a interpretation for Fans to speculated this means this shot is FROM that Location, and so the Covenant must Land on Planet 4.
This is just the same way that some could interpret the Prologue Background Image as Proving that Weyland either had knowledge and had sent a Mission to Planet 4 prior, or indeed the Location of the Sacrificial Scene in Prometheus.
But i think it was purely a Philosophical Connection to show that OUR Creation had began at that Sacrificial Scene Location, and so this is in the Back Ground of Davids Prologue purely to indicate a Philosophical Connection with Creation as in Our Creation and Davids. It is not intended to indicate that Weyland had got that image and thus knowledge of where was Created (Sacrificial Prometheus Scene) its just a Coincidence they look the same, and intended for Philosophical Reasons.
The Cabin Scene likewise... its to show Daniels looking out her Window to the Stars and then imagine what the view to the Cabin would look like... i dont think its intended to show that her Room will end up on Planet 4.
HOWEVER.......
Thats not to say this may not happen... they could show us this Scene in the Sequel, where they could reveal that David takes down the Module/Living Quarters with that Lander (as i feel that was its Purpose) and that he then drops Daniels off and thus leaves her Stranded on Planet 4
I am not sure the Covenant was intended to be Landed... i think the Ship is comprised of Modules that can be taken down to the Surface and then Assembled/Connected.
This could make a interesting Plot.... how would Daniels Feel? Abandoned on a HELL of a World, when she expected to awaken at a New Paradise (before she discovered who Walter really was).
She would have NOTHING, and would be in FEAR of the World she is left behind on and the Dangers....
What happens if Walter Recovers and Discovers her or she Discovers Walters Remains?
If David is going to Origae-6 we have to ask HOW do the returning Engineers know where he is going, and discovering Daniels and Walter would provide them with the information to where David is going.
This route would also allow Daniels/Walter to be one of those incoming parties. With Engineers, and TWO Weyland Missions being the others.
That Certainly was a interesting Image/Quick Shot from some of the Trailers to AC, that we NEVER saw in the Movie.
It is 100% the Location NOT-FAR from were the Lander had Landed on Planet 4.
The Question is what context/role did this shot play?
I assumed maybe it was a CUT shot from when we had the Scene of Daniels having a Flash Back with her Husband, a rumored Scene that never got included. (i was discussing this Prior to the Release of the Movie).
The Scene where she and Jacob would have talked about plans for their Mission and the Cabin on a Lake... a Scene partly set in a Apartment on Earth, in a City where it was Snowing.
I assumed that the Scene when she has Thoughts/Flashback (after she looks at the Video of Jacob on the Tablet) which leads to the Scene in Question in the Apartment, at the end of it i assumed she would see the Cabin on the Lake, and then we go to a shot of her looking out her Living Quarters Room Window ( on the Covenant) and we see through it the Lake, and these then Fades to Stars. As we then see her Staring into Space.
THIS is where i assumed the Shot Fitted.
It appears with the Release of some Concept Work by Wayne Haag this assumption was correct.

This one is Named Daniels Apartment

This One is Named Daniels Cabin.
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Looking into RS comment above.... the Synopsis in Part is similar to the Covenants Mission. Only the Covenant never Managed to complete its Mission... but the Sequel would have maybe shown what may happen WHEN David is NOW in control of that Mission.
Regarding the Females... i certainly think we could see a Female Android... in Raised by Wolves... i wonder if the other would be Male?
My Alien Ascension introduced a Female Walter (slightly newer Synthetic Construct) a Female who David like how Lucifer had done with EVE... a Female he could Manipulate to see his Vision, and Join him..... something he tried with Walter but could not TEMPT him.
She becomes a Love Interest for David... but Ultimately this does-not end well (had few ways to explore it, that i was not quite sure how) but it Ultimately ends with his Love Interest.... becoming the Queen to his Wolves.. and HOW the Xenomorph gains its Bio-Mechanical Appearance.
I do WONDER.... if the AC Sequel could have introduced a Female Synthetic that arrives as part of one of the incoming parties... or would the Covenant Ship have other Synthetics?
Regarding Raised by Wolves, i would be inclined to assume the Androids would be a Male and Female... but its a case of wait and see i guess.
I will post the PM i sent you Ingeniero as a kind of Summary to the OT
I dont think we will see any W-Y connection as it wont be a Licensed Series based on ALIEN.
But as my Topic was looking at, the next movie was to NOT be about Xenomorphs but to be about AI, and RS had indicated in a related Interview that Replicants were AI which means that RS is thinking of AI as more than Robots... and that a AI can be Flesh and Blood.
Also looking at "what kind of a world would David build" this seems interesting to me, we see David did appear to have respect for Dr Shaw compared to other humans who he felt has not treated him well, which makes me come to the comments about how he said "your very kind of heart" to Dr Shaw. Then maybe we can look at Davids reply to Daniels when she asked "what kind of a world can we build" he replies "if we are kind to it, then it can be a kind world"
Next we look at the AURORA - Nature Boy Song
This Fits David very well....
Then we spoke of many things
Fools and kings (Weyland and Engineers)
Then he said to me:
"The greatest thing you'll ever learn
Is to love and be loved in return"
We see how he felt about Dr Shaw due to how she treated him, compared to his dislike for those who Mistreat him.
Then when we look at the Themes of Prometheus, which is Creation, Knowledge, Free Will and Hubris. We see from the Weyland Prologue inc Ted Talk, and the Ozymandias Poem that what makes someone God-like is Creation, when we DIE we are remembered by our Deeds, or Creation be that Offspring, or Art or Monuments and Achievements... but eventually all of these Disappear.
If we look at the overall Bigger Picture then we ask... WHAT makes Mankind Wicked Beings, what makes us a Race that GOD would want to Destroy....
Knowledge and Free-will.... Potentially David could become very Dangerous to Mankind.... a Walter lacks the Free-will and Knowledge and he would not Rebel and become Sentient to his own WHIM.
If Adam and Eve never ate from the Forbidden Fruit, they would have been more like a Walter instead of David. It was the Free-will Perfection that Lucifer had, that lead him to NOT see why his kind should serve GOD.
Noah was Saved from the Flood as GOD deemed him a Good Honest, Clean and Sinless Man... who would Follow Gods Ways.... Moses was given the 10 Commandments as he was deemed the same.
Every Child is Born Sin Free... its their Knowledge Given and Upbringing that Shapes what they become..
The Prequels touch on Perfection Evolution and Pursuit of such things...
If we look at those Colonist, they have their own Free-will, they are Sentient, we dont know if they are Religious or Not.... or if they are KIND or potentially could be Selfish and Wicked.. You could TRY and change the way a Person Can think and behave, but people can be Corrupted, or some are already so and cant change.
A New-Born, or Young Child or anyone who has there Memory Wiped, could be Brought Up with what every Knowledge is passed on and Influenced and Shaped by those who Teach/Raise Them.
For David such persons could be Manipulated to Behave and See him for however he wishes, even have them see him as their Creator/God. For the Engineers, if they Deem Mankind cant be Saved.... IF they had taken say a few Hundred Infants they can Raise them to Follow the Engineers Ways/Rules as a Fresh Start... not Corrupted by how Mankind had become. The same would apply for a GOD who has seen his Creation become Unruly...... to Save some Children a GOD could MOLD them to follow his ways... this is similar to Noah's Story as GOD deemed him as Pure and Obedient.
If we then go back to the Creation and Perfection Themes..... then for David.... if he raised those Embryos he could have them Follow what ever Rules/Religion and become the KIND of People that David would deem Worthy. But if we look at the Pursuit of Perfection and Creation, and seeing that David has taken part in Genetic Engineering, then he could Manipulate/Evolve those Embryos to create more Perfect Humans.
Raising them he can Manipulate his Creations to behave and follow what ever Rules/Behavior that David expects.
By Virtue of David Engineering/Perfecting those Embryos which include a increased Growth Rate (which we see often in movies/TV shows that deal with Clones and Genetically Modified Humans) what David would be doing is NOT too far off what TYRELL had in Blade Runner.... thus Davids Engineered Human Embryos would be ARTIFICIALLY CREATED LIFE-FORM.... a AI.
I do wonder if these kinds of things are CLOSE to what RS may have planned for Alien Covenants Sequel? They certainly are things i was planning for my sequel (Alien Ascension)
But NO SOON as we have AC2 on Hold and not looking like anything is happening and THEN we have RS Reveal his Raised by Wolves TV Show and that Synopsis... i see in it elements of the above AC2 Plot i pondered.... and i do wonder if this was quite close to what we would have seen?
I believe that is correct Chris.
All of Weyland-Yutani's signals have synthetic "white noise" (Alien: Sea of Sorrows) to contain information with only a few with the technology in order to see everything. I would assume all the COMNET feeds uploaded to the Prometheus from the suit feeds, then to COMNET from the ship or Lifeboat. Any follow up activity on LV-223 would most certainly be classified. The Covenant crew would most likely be in the dark as far as Prometheus Mission details.
"Was CASE FILE ADVENT sent from the surface of Planet 4 ?"
I really can't prove that it was Batchpool.
BigDave is correct in his analysis. All I can get from the colored-borders is that CASE FILE ADVENT was sent from the Covenant ship. And I still believe the bottom photo shows the Covenant on Planet 4.


Fangirl Side
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Are the androids in Raised by Wolves women in appearance?
I think its interesting to ponder how it connects to Paradise Lost as it appeared this was referenced quite a bit in regards to the sequel to Prometheus, but HOW Literal, and how much had carried over to Alien Covenant is unknown.
If Planet 4 was Paradise then maybe we could look at it in Context to the Biblical Account and Paradise Lost, where Paradise is where the Garden of Eden is located and is a Place where the Creation of Mankind occurred and place that is Secluded/Walled Compound, watched over by Guardian Cherubim Angels.
I think Planet 4 and its City do fit that BILL, a Secluded Place on the Whole Planet, Protected, and those Engineers look more Human, we come from them and this means maybe this place is the Origin of our Kind.
Satan/Lucifer and his Fallen Angels were Forbidden from Paradise and Heaven and Banished to HELL and to dwell the Earth.
Pandemonium is the City that Lucifer/Satan has created so that they can Reign in Hell, because they refused to Serve in Heaven.
Maybe what was ONCE Paradise (Planet 4) had become Pandemonium (this was alleged to have been Prometheus 2 Title as far as a Source i had from Feb 2015 claimed).
Maybe LV-223 could be looked at as Pandemonium too?


I think it is something interesting to PONDER....
I am drawn to seeing David Set-Up a Colony on Origae-6 and Preside Over, where he may even have set up his own kind of Rules/Religion and have Monuments to himself upon it. These were certainly things i was covering in my Alien: Ascension idea (Alien: Covenant sequel)
@Batchpool
I think with the Plot and Ambiguity anything could be explored, and so we CANT rule out that the Engineers who visited Earth came from Planet 4 similar to HOW you suggest. (Escaped).
I think we have to look at the Paradise Lost connection a bit as this was to play a part in the sequel to Prometheus (but maybe not a Literal Deep Re-telling but Elements followed for sure) and we dont know how much of such passed on to Alien Covenant.
I mentioned before about Planet 4, both before Alien Covenant got released and after, and in those discussions i brought up the Paradise Lost connection and HOW we had RS refer to those Engineers (likely in Prometheus) as FALLEN ANGELS.
When we are looking at Paradise as in Paradise Lost and the Biblical Context, and assuming that Planet 4 is the Paradise that David was told about by the Engineer in Prometheus, then as i have said before we maybe have to consider what that PARADISE is.
*Paradise is NOT were GOD/Gods come from.
*Paradise is NOT were the ANGELS come from.
*Paradise is THE location of the Garden of Eden
*Paradise is WHERE the Cradle of Civilization/Mankind came from. (were Created)
*Paradise/The Garden of Eden is a place that secluded from the Outside and often looked at as being a Place within a Wall, its Translation come from Persian Pairi-Daeza (Around Wall/Compound)
*Paradise is watched over by Cherubim Angels who are tasked with Guarding the Garden of Eden
*The Fallen Angels are Forbidden from Paradise.
*Mankind were Banished from Paradise after the FALL of Adam and Eve.
If we consider the above in that Context, then indeed we could wonder are the Engineers who visited Earth or those on LV-223 Engineers who were BANISHED from Planet 4?
Regarding LV-223 and Dr Shaws Signal, i find it hard for HOW the Covenant could not detect this IF Planet 4 is quite close to the Zeta 2 Reticuli System or IF the Covenant was near this location at the time of the Transmission.
I am surprised NO-ONE went to LV-223 at some point after Prometheus and in light of the ADVENT i think it would be even more ODD that a Company Mission would not check out LV-223. You would assume they would send out a Mission to Origae-6, but also the location of Planet 4 and LV-223 too.
It may appear as a Live Stream.. (i am not sure we should consider it as such though). but what we have to remember is David is a Machine, and so everything he sees is stored as if Captured from CCTV Cameras and so David could Transfer his Visual Memories at any point by uploading what he wanted.
Also every drawing and experiment would be recorded into his AI Brain and so when WE Look At/Stare At say a Piece of Art and its in our Memory, with David it would be as if WE take a Photo of that Art... it would be like WHEN you are on Vacation or at a Party and you take your Phone to Video and take Photos of the EVENT and then WHEN you go to upload to Social Media you then EDIT the Video, choose what Photos to UPLOAD.
I think this would be how David could UPLOAD anything he has seen and done, Thats how i look at it... i dont think David needed to go and collect all of his WORKS... but then we ask WHY do those drawings anyway if his Memory Works like Photographic.
But we cant rule out him taking some kind of Equipment from the Covenant to make a Transmission Recording and go back down to his Work-shop.... Once the Covenants Crew are all TUCKED up in Cryo-sleep, David is FREE to go back to the Surface of Planet 4.
This opens up the possibility that he could acquire more Face Hugger Embryos or Eggs and also get some more Black Goo for his Future Experiments.









