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I think the relactionship is different .... Greg Louganis was an extraordinary man of elegance ,maybe the fact that he is gay gave him an elegance in the sport that no other diver had ( a bit like rudolph Nurayev in ballet dancing ) . So his "movements" " elegance" were not ordinary ...not classic male ... and are perfect to rappresent someone that is not human . I dont think the mohawk guy is fassbender

Didn't Louganis suffer a terrible accident hitting his head on a spring board. I seem to remember at the end of his illustrious career somethng like that happening to him but I could be mistaking him for someone else. Either way, I am old enough.ol, to confirm everything Frantz said right there up above.

naw... from what I've read, Fassbender is playing the android in this movie. Hard to believe he could transform into something else.

On youtube there is an interview where a german diver died by hitting his head on the spring board just before Louganis was about to take his turn.

Louganis did hit his head in the qualifing rounds of the Seul Olympic games ...he was injuried but he continued the competition winning the gold for the fourth time i think ... ( and someone still think gays are not corageous ! )

Can't be Fassbender. Fassbender plays David the android, who probably doesn't get transformed. I think it's one of the minor characters in the film.

I'm quite sure it is NOT Michael Fassbender who plays David the android. Why? 1. the mohawk guy wears completely different suit than the Prometheus crew. I bet he is one of the mercenaries / grunts and not from the scientist team. 2. David is a blond android. Making the hair totally different because of mutation makes no sense and i doubt that he as an android would mutate like that

Louganis did hit his head in the qualifing rounds of the Seul Olympic games ...he was injuried but he continued the competition winning the gold for the fourth time i think ... ( and someone still think gays are not corageous ! ) amazing stuff Frantz ! Gold ! AWESOME !

sorry for the double, doesnlt seem like I can delete it completely right now will later though.

CBT1979, Michael Fassbender does indeed play David the Android...this has been confirmed, and he's clearly visible with a "Blade Runner"-esque hairdo in the teaser. Anyway, just because the thing jumping of of the truck/exploration vehicle/whatever looks like he may be doing a belly-flow doesn't make it Michael Fassbender (especially as it looks nothing like Fassbender and has totally difference facial structure)...that seems like a leap...of logic to me. :P If you'll notice, one of the leaked stills from Conic-Con showed the result of this scene with the person in the space suit flaming the humanoid creature (overhead lights are identical), so it may not even be a major character (depending on when in the films this occurs)...

[url=http://www.gazillionmovies.com/MPAA/PG-13.htm]movies movies movies[/url] I catch your drift It isn't all about gore.Look at some of the movies on that list. Think of Alien and Brett and Lambert's death.There is only a small bit of gore in both of the killings, but they are still both horrific for different reasons, Lambert's more so to me because it is hinted at what is happening.

I think when the Directors Cut of Alien was released in cinemas in the UK it was only a 12 and when it was released on DVD an 18 again. I think sometimes the BBFC will vary their ratings dependent on how much money can be made, "do I hear a bribe sir, surely not...."

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2003/10/27/alien_directors_cut_2003_review.shtml]BBC Alien Directors Cut[/url] I was wrong it was a 15, but my copy on DVD is definately an 18.......

Well,if we knew what the criteria was to warrant an 18 cert, and more about prometheus,we could make an educated guess about the rating!!? Found these guidelines on the BBFC website *where the material is in breach of the criminal law, or has been created through the commission of a criminal offence *where material or treatment appears to the BBFC to risk harm to individuals or, through their behaviour, to society – for example, any detailed portrayal of violent or dangerous acts, or of illegal drug use, which may cause harm to public health or morals. This may include portrayals of sexual or sexualised violence which might, for example, eroticise or endorse sexual assault *where there are more explicit images of sexual activity which cannot be justified by context. Such images may be appropriate in ‘R18’ works, and in ‘sex works’ (see below) would normally be confined to that category. So if Prometheus falls into these guide lines!!! 18 it is......My money is on a 15 and NO !!! I don't want it to be full of gorenography or sex!!! I know this will be a fantastic movie whatever the rating

@Bishy I dont think Jeunet was a miscast for directing the movie, there were great french actors, which were great in his films, too.. I watched Alien3 two days ago, and it really lacks of many things. I mean, there was everything there, great designs, atmosphere .. the worst scenes ( for me): - alien escape scene ( mentioned above). With all the futuristic tech there, cloning etc..,200 years from alien3, THEY DIDNT THINK OF GETTING ACID PROOF ALIEN CAGES? - the cacooned scientist in the baby alien birth scene, who has to explain ( while beeing cocooned of course) whats going on about the altered alien queen´s bith cylus etc..ridicilous..baadd -CGI aliens - cloned Ripley and her alienated behavior..Of course she dies in alien3, but there were other possibilities..

..one possible , better vision wouls have been to make it like Terminator4, which is one of the greatest SCIFis ever. Imagine alien 4, 200 years from alien3, in a dark, post apocalyptic world, after a worls war 3 whatever..wow

once again my 2 cents is that in order to be posting here at all, just to show up here, you had to have found at the very least one tiny thing in each of the 4 films that you liked. Your EGO and Mine are incredibly sneaky but the bottom line is if you are here at all, you liked something, maybe even just one thing, but you found something redeemeable in each of the first 4 films...end of long winded story.

Thank You Spartacus! Too much bashing on 3 and 4. If you want to use a film for a punching bag just look at Alien vs. Predator: Requiem. LOL, now thats a film to bash my friends.

I wouldn't say Resurrection was crap, just my least fave out of the 4. Faves are in order they were released. Each film has its own flaws, just some more than others.

re-flacvinyl with u all the way on alien3,the extended cut is brings it up to a way higher standard,i regard it only slightly under aliens,tho i think it closer to alien in its horror vibe over action! as for alien re-jection... i consider it the first part of another trilogy,avp/avpr/resurrection! friday nite cinena fodder for teens courtesy of pws anderson to rank alongside his other GREATS res-evil 1,2,3,9,19.....etc Tho have to say,really enjoyed event horizon! tho obviously heavilly influenced by sir ridleys classic,our beloved,ALIEN!!!!!! peace

ps know anderson wasnt responsible for all the above just these filns seen of the sane canon! great to b here with cool folk like ya"lll BTW peace

@Ripley Clone 8 LOL you judgement couldn't possible be clouded cause it's maybe YOUR favorite movie out of the series.....just spit balling here lol

@SSgt Fett. Actually man I love each one equally. I honestly don't have a favorite. I'm just using the Ripley 8 character as my username because Ellen Ripley is well known. I love Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. They are ALL great films. so no Resurrection is not my favorite. ALL 4 films are.

I personaly hated the ending as well and that creature, but I loved the way they drank scotch in space and the banter between Johner and Ripley and Ripley and the DR. and Coles portayel as well...Loved a lot of that film, including the Betty, and now, these days I want Guns Up My Sleeves!!!

lol, thanks Sparty. Now you got me wanting guns up my sleeves. Damn you Sparty! Damn you! LOL. just kidding. I enjoyed every bit of Resurrection and and the last 3 films. The bashing for Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection can get pretty darn ridiculous on some other forums. I've even seen people to go so far as bash Cameron's Aliens. Its like WTF??!! Every film to me was awesome. Movies are there for you too enjoy and there not there for you to be so analytical and critical about EVERY little thing. And as one critic said about Resurrection, "How people defecate on this so vehemently, I fail to see. Continuity errors? Every movie has some. Unexplainable plot elements? It is sci-fi. You've already accepted that a spider crab can make love to someone's face, have a small creature grow in their chest, burst out of it and within hours transform into a huge slimy predator. I would think a clone with memories isn't such a gigantic leap."

Hey Guys, All I have to say is "Father is Dead Asshole" that sums it up for me, funniest part of the whole movie. I also think there is some overlooked dialog in the movie about the android war which relates to some contextual remarks that don't make sense until you see the uncut footage. Like whats his face complaining about earth and how he would "rather be on the ship with the things". Those comments didn't make sense until we saw the uncut footage of Ripley and Winona on Earth and France is decimated with the Eiffel Tower destoyed, then it draws everything together. I am sure there is some post and pre storyline there that we can make assumptions about. Regards, Rick

great reading, and ya only mostly get that right here. LOL. "Mostly".

The design of the Alien in Resurrection is also poor those massive feet and claws; clown xeno. Don't get me started on the newborn............

It sure is sad that Giger was not used for Dune, his universe would have certainly worked well with the film. I love the symbolic terrorist references in the movie! Poetic and Prophetic! Oh Sparts, sorry I've been away, Too much going on and I missed your query..I believe the answer to the question of how many canisters are in bishops med lab, without checking I believe the answer is 6. Coincidence to Alien? [img]http://electroshadow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/alien-facehugger.jpg[/img]

The answer is: 2 are alive the rest are dead. Which is 6 total with 4 dead specimens, 2 rows of 3 canisters, and Ruh you need to stop being so anti-social. Sparky's been moping around like he was lost for the last 2-3 weeks.

aliens is so thrilling though AND scary

I want it to have nothing to do with anything that came after Alien. Nothing at all. If it does I will probably walk out and ask for my money back. I think connecting it to the entire mess that has been the Alien Franchise is a terrible idea and will end in tears and failure for Fox. After AvP:R that universe needs a break.

The word "canon" makes me physically sick when discussing Film. It has no place IMO in any film discussion, and It makes me very angry. That said, I am not trying to be controntational, I am just very intimidated by that particular word when it comes to this franchise and the reason is SCOTT and O'Bannon used so many hundreds of different refence points, each themselves on their own, in developing the original story, and O'bannon is so overlooked most of the time as someone mentioned. The fact is both made contributions but the true inventor of this entire storyline was O'bannon. The problem is/was at times he was defensive and behaving so irrationally according to all the others nvolved in making he film, that he got no resopect from anyone. But ALIEN was his baby from the moment he thought up the Beach Ball in "Star Beast" and knew he would one day have to make up for it wiht a much more serious creature, and film. The truth is ALSO that without SCOTT's input and changes, the whole thing never gets done at all. To me, the ONLY CANON their ever was, was the one that went off inide my brain at the exact moment I first saw Mr. "FH" come forth into this dimension from wihtin the bowels of John Hurts stomach.

got a lot to say on this one, I will do it in the morning, bottom line is I have a Big fat problem wiht that word..."Canon" I mean. Like I said I'll address it tomorrow.

Remember that Ridley has always thought of this thing (the xenomorph) as a weapon and the ship as a bomber of sorts, something to be used to wipe out a species. I think that a key to this concept will be that the xeno can adapt itself to a particular species, either immediately upon contact or over time through extended contact. Think about the original Xeno we saw, and how well its life cycle was adapted to humans: - The facehugger shape doesn't work well on anything other than a human face. Anything much bigger or with a more protruding snout or jaw is going to be a problem for the perfect fit the thing achieves (and seems to need) in the first film. - Ash comments that the hugger is "feeding him oxygen." This alone implies a lot of knowledge of human biology, especially for a creature that seems to have developed in an atmosphere that doesn't have a lot of dimolecular oxygen to begin with. Lifeforms that didn't develop on Earth would not necessarily use oxygen in the same way that we do, if at all. What would the hugger feed them, if it encountered them? - The developing embryo needs a fairly large abdominal cavity to grow in. This instantly eliminates animals much smaller than an adult human. This is sort of confirmed by the xeno's relative disinterest in Jonesie the cat. It seems to go after targets that are only viable from a reproductive standpoint, not a food standpoint. To me, this all points to the fact that the xenomorph was a weapon that had adapted itself against humanity even before the crew of the Nostromo encountered it. I think what the crew in Prometheus will encounter is the "blank slate", the original bioweapon before it adapts to a particular species. Through their actions, they begin the adaptation process and somehow trigger the carrier-ship to start traveling to Earth. This is how "the search for our beginning could lead to our end." When we see the ship exploding at the end of the trailer, the crew has realized the implications of their actions and has attempted to destroy the carrier vessel. What the Nostromo crew encounters many years later is the remnants of this adapted weapon, a perfect weapon against humanity that manages to wipe out all crew members but Ripley in less than 24 hours. There was an intriguing concept in the movie "Supernova" (an otherwise awful film). In this movie, the crew of a medical ship finds a man in possession of a strange alien artifact. They analyze the artifact and theorize that it is a weapon created by a very advanced alien race. It is essentially a bomb, but it has strange effects on those it comes in contact with, one being that it produces an almost psychotic obsession to possess the artifact in whoever finds it. They go on to speculate that it is a pre-emptive weapon against competing spacefaring races left behind by its creators. The idea here is that species would find it, bring it home, and it would then explode and wipe them out. The xeno could be a similar concept. A species smart enough to find it could be a threat to its creators. So they create this thing that adapts itself specifically to that species. The spacefarers find it, it adapts, and travels to their homeworld or place of origin (how it figures this out I can only speculate, perhaps it subverts a crewmember and simply makes him tell :D). It then destroys that entire species but ONLY that species, since it is adapted specifically for them. Yes I know that Alien 3 would seem to contradict this theory, but I doubt Ridley would care about following that film's canon. It leaves all other life intact. That's all my own speculation, but I think we might see something like this.

Remember that Scott has always thought of this thing as a weapon, and the ship it was found in as a carrier for that weapon. It always bothered me that the xenomorph life cycle was very well adapted to humans, a species that it had ostensibly never encountered before. The size and morphology of the facehugger, the fact that it feeds Kane oxygen (when there is very little O2 on the planet it was found on and it somehow knew that humans use THAT molecule as a crucial part of their metabolism), even the apparent need for a relatively large abdominal cavity that could be closely accessed from the digestive or respiratory system, all points to the fact that these things had encountered humans or human-like beings before. I think what the crew in Prometheus will encounter will be the "blank slate" for this weapon, a creature that hasn't yet adapted itself to the human species. They find it, unwittingly begin the adaptation process, and also set the ship we see in the trailer to begin traveling to Earth. A subverted crew member could allow this to happen. When the uncorrupted crew members realize what is about to happen, they try to destroy the ship as we see it happening in the trailer. The Nostromo crew finds this creature many years later, and it is already adapted to them and wipes out all but Ripley in a very short period of time. There was an intriguing concept in the movie "Supernova" (an otherwise awful film). In this movie, the crew of a medical ship finds a man in possession of a strange alien artifact. They analyze the artifact and theorize that it is a weapon created by a very advanced alien race. It is essentially a bomb, but it has strange effects on those it comes in contact with, one being that it produces an almost psychotic obsession to possess the artifact in whoever finds it. They go on to speculate that it is a pre-emptive weapon against competing spacefaring races left behind by its creators. The idea here is that a species would find it, bring it home, and it would then explode and wipe them out. Along similar lines, the xenomorph creators leave behind a bioweapon that specifically adapts to any species intelligent enough to find it, and then seeks out their place of origin. That is all speculation of course, but this is sort of how I think things might unfold.

I say the Xenomorphs are a TERRAFORMIN BIOMECHANICAL WEAPON created by the Engineers to Conquer New Worlds

I think one of the main concepts that bears examination is the role of the Space Jockey. In what way do they terraform; on a planetary level, on a biological level (clear out any existing bio forms and plant new ones), or a combination of both. I lean towards the bio-warfare type, that removes all vestiges of previous life and inserts it's own DNA.

Ultimately I hope to see something more alien than the imagination can handle; including the horrible technological manipulations for terrorforming of the masses. The xeno's tails and tubules on their suggests a reptilian connection, something ancient...like before the time of dinosaurs? [img]http://adventurevisual.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/AlienDinosaurRoughs02.9463412_std.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.theastralworld.com/aliens-ufos/pics/dinosauroid.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.fogs.com/static/uploads/images/605_undefined/image.file.853c975900500193.372e6a7067.jpg[/img]

I understood RS wanted to use "realistic" , or at least "possible" technologies in this film. That alone says quite a bit, IMO. That said, I would not have a problem if the Engineers had the capability. Just no human time travel or changed past or futures please. Too much of that already out there.