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Chef Boiardavid.
"Scott reintroduced the Xenomorph in Alien: Covenant in an exercise of arrogance, to prove his prior statement that the 'beast was cooked'."
GAVIN Do you really think that this was the case? Or it was just a half ass attempt at using the beast because he does not believe in it. I mean you really think he deliberately tried to cook the xenomorph?
I totally agree with this article. It is time to stop sending confusing messages. AI should be in the flanks and not take center stage. The alien itself is what we are here for.
Neither the Alien nor the AI need be cooked if more emphasis is put on the rest of the cast. Except for a couple characters in the last two movies, the rest have been pretty forgettable. The Quadrilogy was much better in that aspect.
Of course it'snot cooked! And the AI angle will get overcooked much faster than the xenomorph (I am actually already tired of it)
@Ati
A picture for a thousand words: :)
It does look delicious.
Hmmmm... Looks delicious. :)
It is sad to see that the site is full of ridiculous threads bashing Ridley Scott and his actions containing pathetic comments that use the smallest piece of news mentioning his name to attack him lacking the smallest bit of respect towards his works.
That is the reason why I believe we need more similar topics started by you. It is a clever, rare and remarkable pearl moving against the sea of hatred mentioned above.
Thank you for that.
After checking out Adam Savage's tour of David's lab, I'm pretty sure there's 2 of these creatures, one lying on the table dissected and the other one in a bowl.
It‘s very beautyful. I love Shaw and i love Noomi Rapace.
The thing I despise of the road so far is the inconsistency. I mean, the first four movies were all so different due to different directors, situations, etc. and I actually love that. The Ridley Scott led prequels, however, have (so far) been a damn see-saw. I love both movies (prefer Prometheus), but it was definitely dissappointing to see Scott and the studio retreat from the initial vision because they looked at the fan reaction to characters and creatures and RAN with them. Then, of course they didn't do the greatest job with either of them in Covenant. I mean, still the vision is there masked under an Alien movie, but it became a slight disservice between the two. It also gets tough because Scott just changes his mind alone. From interviews, behind the scenes, the script, and the actual film, there are tons of diverging details and ideas that no one is trying to tie together at all.
I am not concerned about a possible Disney accquisition, at all. As I said in another thread (and joylitt said on this one) Disney is not going to purchase 21st Century Fox and make EVERYTHING into a Disney movie. Disney is a huge corporation and they do shady coporation stuff and they definitely have always functioned best in that family-friendly movie niche. Now, they are not going to change Alien, Planet of the Apes, Deadpool, etc. and they aren't going to burn those movies that don't fit their animation and family-friendly categories. What I am really worried about (if Disney does accquire Fox) is the fans. I am tired of hearing, "Disney is ruining Star Wars," "They're going to ruin Deadpool, Alien, blah blah blah." It isn't the end of the world.
I will say that I could eat my words and Disney could try something funny with some properties. It just seems logical that they wouldn't buy fox just to soil it all.
I think the franchise lives thanks to you guys who care
At first I started having flashbacks from Alien 4 then I saw the pictures and I really like it. Basically anything would be better than the basically nothing we got in Alien Covenant. Its amazing how many great ideas were not explored in the very boring script we got for Alien Covenant.
Not sure if this is completely on topic, but the thing I find the most lacking about this site is a 'new posts since last visit' option. A close second is the apparent lack of being able to quote other posters' posts.
Awesome work!
I'd continue...It's your world. It's an achievement. I'd share it with Noomi(if possible..Twitter?) and somehow RS.
This kind of work keeps the franchise alive.
So this would mean that humans and engineers aren’t evolutionary related (if we go by Prometheus)? The sacrificial engineer’s DNA is broken apart and he only contributes with the building blocks of life (panspermia)? Unless “The Gardeners of Space” later on in the evolution on Earth experiments with species and contributes with their DNA? I wonder if the engineers are responsible for “The Big Five Mass Extinctions” on Earth? :)
I agree that the themes of creation, subcreation, hubris, rebellion, creation going astray etc. (and perhaps disappointment with the creator?) are central to these movies.
When can we enjoy reading your Prometheus 2 script?
A million thanks to all of you and only one question: Should I continue to work on it ?
Hi Michelle, I don't think you will be able to edit your post - I had a post That I could never edit as well.
Just post a new one containing all the things you wanted say that would completely obsolete you other post.
Also, having watched BR2049, and if I am not mistaken on your view of the way A:C treated the Prometheus, which was, I think, a rather unsatisfying way of dealing with the set-up of the topics in the P, which is something I believe we share, I wanted to ask your views about BR sequel and if you talked about your ideas it.
I am afraid this is somewhat off topic here. If it is, you guys let me know, ok?
Do you think this is possible: "Mariette is the Mary Magdalene, she is the Holy Grail everyone is looking for "
The cues are subtle, look for yourselves:
- The movie starts with a close up shot of an eye of a female with green color and blonde looking lashes.
- Another, quite subtle but remarkable hint: recall the scene where Joi invites Mariette and there is this curious dialog between Mariette, Joi and K where she says: "We have a very special lady here" and initially K is looking at Joi but Mariette insists and turns K's head to her. Mariette knows she is special and she knows Joi can't be special because Joi is an artificial pleasure model.
- Mariette is the one dropping casually the phrase : "you don't like real girls" to K.
- Mariette recognizes the tree.
- Mariette recognizes the horse.
- Mariette is amongst the revolting rogue bunch.
- Deckard when probed by Wallace rejects reincarnated Rachael saying she had green eyes. Of course he knows that Rachael eyes were not green. However, it is a hint to us, viewers.
- Stelline can't be the child because suppose she was the child and she was put into orphanage and locked out from the others because of her genetic disorder. Hence she couldn't have had those memories of green vegetation, forests, insects and all the rest of it because she literally grew up in a greenhouse, that is plastic jar. She couldn't have experienced those impressions in details. She was instead implanted with those memories herself. Whose memories are those? Well, someone's who lived long before the blackout happened and has seen that world with flora and fauna still intact.
- It is her that saves K gracefully, as if by chance, by planting the bug. It is her face K sees when he opens his eye.
- While Joi and K relation was sweet, we know what JOI stands for, so what is more "real" what JOI offered or what Mariette gifted K, ie, the real experience, probably for free. By JOI's own admission Mariette "is real".
- It is much safer to disguise their child as a promiscuous prostitute, this way more of the rebels can actually see her without compromising the secrecy and more of them can see the miracle.
- and just like it was rumored about Mary Magdalene, Mariette was a prostitute.
I think the 80's gave us nice examples of hilarious scenes in unusual situations, specially when you think of Paul Verhoeven and Wes Craven.
JonesRules I prefer Melancholia of all von Trier films.
daliens, von Trier example is hilarious. Try Nymphomaniac, same director, for unlimited humor )) Director's Cut at that
Melancholia by Lars von Trier.
It proves we need the humorous release valve.
I like how a human is busting out of an alien instead of the other way around. It seems an interesting concept to come full circle way down the road! LOVE IT!
The "They're coming to get you, Barbara" part is kinda funny though :-)
I think everyone concerned about Disney meddling in the alien universe should express it here and everywhere.
I don't need a lighthearted change of tone or children in the movie. Jonesy was acceptable for the first film, unnecessary in the second one, as Newt was.
#PRED'ALEX - (Sorry never sure how to highlight people in different social media apps correctly! Apologies!)
These are ABSOLUTELY stunning! You have a tremendous eye for detail and really enable one to connect with your artwork! Like H.R. Giger, your work elicits a response, which to me is the whole point of artwork, to get one to ponder, whether that's an uncomfortable pondering for some or utter amazement for others either way, for me at least, it's what art should do!
Like Giger's work, this transports me to great places and possibilities within the Alien universe. I really admire these for their originality and truthfully warmth, even though what David has done to her is horrific and the ultimate violation, you still (at least I felt) feel that warmth and kindness of Shaw was still there or at least wants to be. So far my favorite one is "Alien: Rise" I think it's called - hopefully I got that correct. I TRULY LOVE them all though! Again just my take sorry for rambling!
Thank you again so very much for sharing your incredible talent with all of us out here!Lady Anne ^^ö^^
joylitt That's the spirit! I think the defunct Facehuggers! posted that and it deserves a re watch.
In a strange way, it reminds me a bit of this: BTW= Happy Veterans Day/weekend to those whom it applies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xElJfFkYwE
#PRED'ALEX
Love this! Lol fantastic as always! Lady Anne ^^ö^^
This robot chicken sketch is very funny
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Sorry if it wasn't clear but a handful of people here try and portray Alien Covenant as profound and thoughtful with powerful and novel thematic concepts and I was simply saying just because you make the creator creation rebellion riff your not in that camp.
As to robots turning on their creators thats been done to death in science fiction and so not only is A C not profound it is highly derivative. Even the Embryos cannot be allowed to germinate or all hell will break lose is a straight lift from Enterprise and "The Augments" and Trek dealt with genetic enhancement back in the 60's.
So even if its a cracking story fizzing with excitement (which it isn't )the ideas behind it are not. Even the attempt to connect it with the Shelley and modern Prometheus vibe does not work because there is no circumspection with David.
What makes Bladerunner 2049 compelling is we are never quite sure and the exploration of the fear of humanity. Indeed the whole issue of synthetic apartheid is dealt with in a genuinely thought fun and emotional way.
So I get that your trying to explain what Ridley was trying to do and explain it thematically to T&D but the more central point of Thoughts&Dreams is the character this all hinges on David is not relatable enough nor are the protagonists. In Prometheus David was fascinating we were discovering because he has to hold the story together in Covenant he is simply a series of manoeuvres which lead to only one conclusion he is a made robot.
Now lets look at how much more interesting the characters could have been and really surprised us.
Elizabeth turns bad. Noomi wanted to explore this idea what if she is seduced by the Alien Mutagen and becomes the antagonist. This tory of this profoundly christian believer under going a fall would ahve echoed the much larger fall of the Engineers.
David seeks a soul. In order to deal with what is existence David redeemed and healed by Elizabeth like Ryan Gosling in Bladerunner seeks redemption but doesn't actually realise it.
So both characters go in the opposite direction and discover Paradise which is a mechanistic conceit which David discovers and it turns out that the reason why the Engineers wanted to destroy us is because we turned from believing they were the Gods and began 2017 years ago a quest for a God belief which was existential and non materialistic. Powerful themes quite a simple story but every element a twist to up the thoughtfulness of the original intention of the prequels the search for our creators.
PS The Xenomorph is merely a relic of the Engineers sub creative meddling fusing mechanics, human DNA and the big question the mutagen a punishment from..........
Chris It is a nit pick really. I would think it would be helpful to give a heads up if the site will go dark though. Sorry if you did and I missed it.
In the mean time, here is a funny way to view what you are doing with our member complaints. You are the manager and we are Nigel Tuffnel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHGJEdjCoeU
hardboiled is kind of right. Besides, no matter what comes down the pike, it will not likely be a huge money maker as the franchise history has shown and hard core fans will find ways to bitch about whatever comes next. Godzilla has an animated origins story coming next week and looks pretty good. Maybe the Alien franchise should stretch out a bit like some have suggested. Hmm. Maybe the Godzilla franchise isn't all worried about profits. It has eleven time lines and everything is pretty much canon. It has a history dating back to the 1960s to be conservative, and still has a huge fan base. Hmm...
before Scott kid napped and ruined the trajectory of his own franchise alien 5 momentum was building. After the horrific and polorizing last 2 prequel prequels it's time to answer the questions he promised to with Prometheus. The terror and intrigue launched in the original alien needs to be pursued. Bring it
I think David just re-creates the "xeno", its based on the black goo, but the black goo was already created by someone else, so i guess the space jockey and the cargo inside that wessel has nothing to do with David at all. I just hope that the next film they (David & co) end up where the space jockey takes off from, so that we get some answers there.
Maybe David has made an army of his version of the xenos and unleashes that on the engineer home planet, and the engineers respond with sending that ship to wipe out humans, but it fails and ends up crashing.
I dont think that ship has been sitting there for thousands of years because the organic cargo would not survive that long.
Am i missing something? probably alot i guess ;)
Hmm.....I sense a change in the for- oops, wrong movie! The tracker is picking up movement from all directions!
Yeah, I agree with joylitt. I don't see any scares left really except for having humans lose and lots of creepiness left at the end. Maybe the series proper should be put to bed- and no re boots. Taken in a different direction. If Disney wants to continue, hopefully it gets passionate people involved and lets them take some risks. They are probably aware the series is not a big money maker.
