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and when rippley reads the message from mother CREW EXPENDABLE it means that WY new they were gona face something really nasty

if there are aliens and L-426 in prometheus and weyland is involved they have to know 30 years after of the existance of these creatures although maybe its hard to make a perfect conection between alien and prometheus if there was no idea of making a first movie this case prometheus some lose ends are possible

This is an excerpt from FOX studio's authorized materials. If published and or video releases pertaining to the Franchise are considered canon then this pretty much sums up Weyland Yutani's involvement. RESTRICTED ACCESS/EYES ONLY TO: Director, Special Ops, Weyland Yutani Weapons Division, 937/AG-9. FROM: Harbourmaster, Weyland Yutani Drydock Bravo, Thedus. RE: USCSS Nostromo, Flight plan, #233/04-A. Sched Depart > Thedus 12 June, 2121, 0600 HRS [local] Sched Arrival > Acheron 1 April, 2122, 1530 HRS [IST] Sched Arrival > Earth TDB Nostromo flight plan cleared with Antarctica Traffic Control. Pre-flight checks now underway. Included below is the original crew manifest. Select the desired file. Dallas: Captain Kane: Executive Officer Ripley: Warrant Officer Ash: Science Officer Lambert: Navigator Parker: Chief Engineer Brett: Engineering Tech. as regards Ash, this is his file. Ash.. >FILE UNDER REPAIR, ACCESS RESTRICTED< No Further enchancement by order of Weyland Yutani Weapons Division. WY/SCE-REF#0102/BG/E9 Updated 10 Jun 2121: 10 June 2121 - Present Assigned as Science Officer on Weyland Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas, [Flight Status A]. COMMAND REQUEST ENHANCEMENT AUTHORIZATION ROGER INDIGO LAGOS "Subject is science officer grade M-1 and has been operational for 4 years. Previous history and personal data are classified from normal Company personnel access due to the scientific nature of subject's previous assignments".

Considering the company is supposed to have a good idea just how deadly the Alien is, one wonders why collecting such an apparently-priceless specimen (deemed to be worth a few deaths at least,according to the secret order) is left to chance by secretly piggybacking the enterprise on a routine haulage trip rather than sending a fully trained and equipped expedition with some idea of what they might be up against.

Hopefully a lot of these questions about how did Ash know all of this will be answered in June. Good question-why not just send in the marines? The reason for this is that Weyland are the only ones who know of the derelict and as a PLC they cant involve a task force or risk involvement in a big incident. So they apply a little subtlety in their approach. ASH

I am just curious... Isn't this thread supposed to be contained within the Alien & Aliens discussions Sections? Why is it in the Prometheus Section?

Then they should have sent some mercenaries with a steel cage to capure 1 egg ...i think they really had not an idea ...

Frantz I would have thought you would have been all over that, you made a post about people posting in and putting threads in the wrong places but now it looks like you don't even care. You made it seem like it was very important but right now you don't seem to mind at all. I find that odd. But of course....It's Just another opinion from what Snorky and His little droogie seem to think is just another a-hole.

Personally, I’ve always imagined that the Company didn’t know any real details about the Alien…they just picked up an echo of the signal/beacon, while the Nostromo was too far out. That’s why they added the new science officer Android Ash at Thedus. Then, on the way back to Earth…MUTHR/Mother swung into action. It’s at that point that Ash began secretly communicating his findings to the suits back on Terra. OH SNAP! I hope "the Ridster" doesn’t expect us to change ALL of the personal notions we’ve had regarding the first “ALIEN” flick. It’d suck if he’s trying to retroactively change what was originally intended in the first film. In the end…I suppose we’re all just gonna have to gobble up…whatever he dishes up. LI

Amen. Parker: “Well I’d rather be eatin’ somethin’ else…but right now I’ll stick to the food.” :-) ~N

LAMBERT: “Oh my God…” So…there is a straight guy for the queer site :-) LI

[quote] Member Posts: 163 Neurion › Posted 01/5/2012 Amen. Parker: “Well I’d rather be eatin’ somethin’ else…but right now I’ll stick to the food.” :-) ~N[/quote] Neurion Question; and If you get this right I will add a point to your total in the Prometheus Movie Trivia thread. What INCREDIBLE THING does Parker do in Alien, right after taking a sip from his coffee cup? HINT; For me, it was pound for pound the funniest thing in any of the Alien franchise films...by FAR !!!

well sparty depend in which section one log in ..i usually log in the community section so i see only the latests posts and recent discussions ..that are not divided between prometheus ones and generic ones ... i just follow randomly the discussions that are going on like i think everyone do . I really dont see the division . i was complaining that any new post push back some interesting ones ...so i was asking to think twice before opening a new thread ..just that :p

it;s cool, I was just curious. Tx for explaining your stand on it to me I appreciate it and was genuinely curious that's all.

or anyone else? ------------------ Neurion Question; and If you get this right I will add a point to your total in the Prometheus Movie Trivia thread. What INCREDIBLE THING does Parker do in Alien, right after taking a sip from his coffee cup? HINT; For me, it was pound for pound the funniest thing in any of the Alien franchise films...by FAR !!!

Li, I'm going to chime in here and say that makes 2. Sparky is just LOST kinda like Vasquez and Snorky is about as frustrated as Hudson (put her in charge) o.O LOL Sparky, Please see ma status. Laters, Rick

Rick, we don't know if he actually does that, you went to far, but what DOES he actually do? 1 word it's got to be the easiest question in Alien franchise trivia question history and what's even funnier to me is that I had to watch that scene like 30 times to convince myself I was seeing and hearing what I was seeing and hearing and that Scott DELIBERATELY left it in the film.

[img]http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc389/bongobat/Fun%20on%20the%20Internet/NewElizabethShawImage1.jpg[/img] She looks stunned. I wonder if she just found her mummified father alive and just had to sit down. : ) or it was just the crew taking five... Smoke em if you got em. [img]http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc389/bongobat/Fun%20on%20the%20Internet/acid3.jpg[/img]

lol Janek! Samus indeed.

To me In that pic she looks a bit like Chrissy Hind from "The Pretenders", am I the only one that remembers her and that band?

I'll pretend I know who that is.... Google told me and yes she does. What is she sitting on and what latex fetish site did they buy their outfits from? Those are separate questions... I think.

OMG that's sensational man I am so glad I saw that !!! Thank You !

Hello Boys…any room for a Lady on this website? LI

From your gif BM it looks like the Derelict gets on the hammerhead side, but your right it does look like there are some flames and smoke coming from near the three vaginal entrances. Only guess I can come up with is that the flames extinguish before it settles. Also, the lack of soot may be because the thing rolls like a wheel when it crashes.

I agree with you there Biomechanic. I think it is something hitting the Derelict that causes the explosion rather than the explosion coming from inside the derelict itself. Possibly the Magellan? The look on Janeks face in that brief shot in the trailer looks like he's about to poop his pants, maybe because he's about to crash into something?

A common assumption engineer, and one i had myself. But from the brief piece of footage we can't really tell. The only supporting evidence is the assorted wreckage from a human ship (Magellan/Prometheus) during the Derelicts crash and roll scene.

5 months untill we find out. Thats to long for speculations if you ask me. I've been waiting for this film for years, the next 5 months are gonna be tough.

No glaringly obvious damage from an enormous explosion. The horns that struck the ground first, look like they're still completely intact. The incredible mass of the gigantic ship didn't cause it to crumple up like an aluminum can when it struck the ground, as we would expect. Conclusion: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

huh i dont think the horns strike the ground first ...i think we see the botton slowly taking ground ( so there is a sort of controlled landing crash )...will be pretty ridicuouls to see the ship landing on the horns imo . i agree on the collision outside the alien ship ...

We can't really tell what hits the ground first, all we know is that it rolls like a wheel, at some point would create a "n" shape before settling into a U shape.

Watch the trailer in 1080p. In one of the shots with Rapace running from the crashing ship, you can plainly see exactly what hits first; that is, the horn with a rounded "fin." There's no doubt about it.

Just watched the trailer in 1080p - The Horn end is already in the ground as the Hammerhead comes down, we actually don't see what hits the ground first, I just checked.

I still think it's a second Derelict crashing next to another derelict. There are 3 objects on the final fall... a Derelict base and 2 horns.. The way the ship falls apart would be odd if there was just one ship.. so I'm assuming there are 2 Derelicts.. @BioMechanic, What tools are you using to grab the trailer then convert some of the scenes into images or animated gifs? It would be fun to have an animated gif for every scene!

Snorkelbottom, if you look at an 'aerial' view of the derelict type ship, the only way what we see onscreen makes sense, is if that horn strikes first. If it landed squarely on one side, it wouldn't make sense for the ship to have been so unbalanced that it rotated all the way around to a horns-up position.

Maybe, but not necessarily. The impact/explosion seems to send the derelict spinning downwards... [img]http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc389/bongobat/Fun%20on%20the%20Internet/derelict.gif[/img] Then the footage of the crash in the trailer shows this spinning wheel-like motion continuing, until it settles in a U shape. We don't see the actual moment the Derelict collides with the ground, so it is anyones guess until we actual see the point of impact, which is why I'm not saying it does or doesn't, because we simple don't know yet. We don't even know how far it falls, and how many turns it makes before it impacts the ground. IMO its pointless speculating, bottom line something causes it to crash, it rolls and settles, everything else in between is of no importance.

two images ..i hope they help [img]http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5306/derelict1.jpg[/img] [img]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5300/derelict2.jpg[/img]

Frantz, in your top shot, the other horn is in the background, gouging out the ground, behind the one that's impacting near Rapace. If you look at the overhead shot of the upright derelict on the main page of this site, you can see a big gouge in the ground, to left of the ship.

*warning* new member :D Going back to the GIF, at first glance of course were thinking some kind of impact to the derelict or an explosion really close. I would like to propose an idea that i havent heard in this thread yet. Taking a different look at the GIF/scene of the trailer the derelict is plummeting towards the planet. As you can see its already in the atmosphere. Assuming the ship was orbiting in space/outside the atmosphere. Im thinking maybe it was hit in space/attacked and started falling before this little scene and we are seeing it after its already entered the atmosphere and possibly something inside explodes while its coming down. Maybe thats the reason why it is already spinning

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I like Rick's epiphone! They want the Xeno... Terror forming doesn't happen until 57 years after the events in Alien. Why else would the Company decide to terrorform LV-426?