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Tec-BPrometheus ForumRidley Scott's DebutDec 10, 2011
Oh i don't know.. that advert is considered a classic in the uk, I mean think about the time this was set. Most adverts back then were cheesy, logo ridden, hooky songed push it down your throat, unremarkable advertising. This was one of the first of the Short film format with a lot going into it's composition. looking at it for the first time in years, it's actually exquisitely well shot if you compare to, hell, even tv and films of the time.
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumRidley Scott's DebutDec 10, 2011
well yes ..i think you are right ...1973 is so far far away and there were very kiddish advertisements . Often we think is "nothing special" something that was the first in his genre and that deserve much more praise , like you say .
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumRidley Scott's DebutDec 10, 2011
lol i just realised i said "the time this was set" instead of "the time this was made"
Obviously we didn't have commercials in the late 1800/early 1900's ;)
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
Interesting. Have you seen these?
[url]http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=egyptian+book+of+the+dead+chair&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1280&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=SXT7sBRpwXNm3M:&imgrefurl=http://alienexplorations.blogspot.com/2009_01_01_archive.html&docid=ZrclRoh5cqG4KM&imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8sv9gYsuLwc/TUSnuAb1iBI/AAAAAAAAAdE/hRH2Cd4LwZ0/s1600/sacredbarkofsokar.jpg&w=800&h=754&ei=-lzjTrnGD8nR8QPSyaHzAw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=462&vpy=354&dur=636&hovh=170&hovw=181&tx=125&ty=192&sig=114657080368129682701&page=2&tbnh=157&tbnw=167&start=16&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:16[/url]
[url]http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=egyptian+book+of+the+dead+chair&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1280&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=VJyzKEs8u6kWIM:&imgrefurl=http://alienexplorations.blogspot.com/2011/01/evolution-of-space-jockey-from-egyptian.html&docid=zMnEXJe4-a9ngM&imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8sv9gYsuLwc/TTYUPOHMRHI/AAAAAAAAAcg/Rjat8Kg2oTc/s1600/habu-10.jpg&w=480&h=338&ei=-lzjTrnGD8nR8QPSyaHzAw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=640&vpy=46&dur=999&hovh=188&hovw=268&tx=115&ty=116&sig=114657080368129682701&page=1&tbnh=149&tbnw=212&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0[/url]
Then compare them to this,
[url]http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=egyptian+book+of+the+dead+chair&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1280&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=vdx0H9379jLjCM:&imgrefurl=http://alienexplorations.blogspot.com/2009_01_01_archive.html&docid=ZrclRoh5cqG4KM&imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8sv9gYsuLwc/SZidoZu4DfI/AAAAAAAAAEY/iu4gEpIrc4s/s1600/380.jpg&w=781&h=494&ei=-lzjTrnGD8nR8QPSyaHzAw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=391&sig=114657080368129682701&page=1&tbnh=111&tbnw=175&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:0&tx=102&ty=47[/url]
This is also quite interesting.
[url]http://alienexplorations.blogspot.com/2009_01_01_archive.html[/url]
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
Chariots of the Gods, although i've never heard it cited officially, bore a lot of similarity to ridleys commentaries for alien and his jockey ideas. Again, even though i don't believe it was officially cited the influence was (forgive me snorkel lol) clear to see in AVP.
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
The more I watch this the more I am convinced, Frankenstein has been inferred - the Modern Day Prometheus, You should all watch this!
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
Read some Erik Von Daniken.
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
The Guy who wrote the book...Chariots of The Gods...I think it was in 1939 or something like that claimed that ALIEN the original was completely stolen from that story, the Makers of Alien settled the law suit out of court.
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
When I said convinced, I was referring to the film Prometheus. The only real tangible evidence I've seen thus far is the stones at Puma Punka.
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
@ Spartacus.
Yeah i'm pretty sure something like that happened, they apparently "kissed & made up" after that whole fiasco. Von Daniken also wrote several other books with "of the gods" in the title. Im sure I read somewhere recently that Scott is going back to Von Danikens work for inspiration/ideas.
OT, Did you get my mail?
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
The music piece he used at the end of Alien had/has a part in it called the same thing..."Chariots of the Gods"...I think.
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
One question, that won't be answered for six months though is - When do the Space Jockeys interfere with life on Earth...
1. Do they create life on earth (maybe pouring their goo into the oceans)?
2. Do they create humans (maybe using their green goo on apes)?
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
I think they do but we DON'T see that, it will be inferred.
The film will end with some inference to the eggs on LV-426, and Humans on the way, {takes light years for deep space warning signals to be heard and responded to} and I think...that is where it will end... because it is enough from that point on to suggest that Earth is in some deep "doggie doodie"
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
I think the inference will come from the age of the Space Jockey artefact/site they find on earth, it will either be older than the first living organism known or preceed the first known human fossil.
I think the former makes them more benign, whereas the later would make them more malevolent.
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumCould This Have Influenced Prometheus' StoryDec 10, 2011
I was wrong, here are the Facts...
A lawsuit by A.E. van Vogt, claiming plagiarism of his 1939 story "Discord in Scarlet" (which he had also incorporated in the 1950 novel "Voyage of the Space Beagle"), was settled out of court.
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Soundtrack - AMAZING!Dec 10, 2011
ive yet to read of someone that say that the trailer was disappointing ...even if you see basically nothing ...now immagine to see it in HD for the first time and i can understand the dissapointment of the FOX guy ...
IS a kind of trailer that push you to see the movie ... the music mix is also excellent and with the few words and screams build already alot of tension !
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Soundtrack - AMAZING!Dec 10, 2011
Seems like FOX is playing the "Less is more" card.
Reply BiomechanicPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Soundtrack - AMAZING!Dec 10, 2011
I didn't find the music all that incredible myself but it was okay. It is possible that was some canned music or it was made just for the trailer.
[url=http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/44843-video-trent-reznor-and-karen-o-cover-led-zeppelins-immigrant-song/#ooid=R2a2U0MzrI6rgFA1Btw2dE8WXdxmqfzC]Here[/url] is an opening sequence that could have easily been a trailer/teaser or whatever you want to call it that I find pretty cool:
They accomplished what the Fox people should have done this early and not reveal anything. I mean they could have put Prometheus as the title of this and it would have worked for me.
ReplyPaddy101Prometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Soundtrack - AMAZING!Dec 10, 2011
Does anyone else feel a bit disappointed that they are using some of the score from "Alien" and also a slightly different version of the score for "Inception" mixed together....
I was hoping they would create something completely new and original that would be unique to Prometheus....
I don't like the way they are stepping on the score of the original film as I think it is taking slightly away from the original film...
Every big budget film now is using the Inception score, I'm thinking of Transformers 3 etc....
By using the same music from Alien your basically saying "yeah this is a prequel"...!
I want Prometheus to a be a stand alone film that tells a separate story to any of the other films yet revealing some information, not all, on the Space Jockey... Therefore they should spend as much time as needed to create something truly unique....
The way the Prometheus title gradually enters the screen is fine with me as it's just the title... the score however is far more important as it invokes an emotional feeling while watch any film...
Example, in Alien there is a wide shot moving away from the Nastromo after the face hugger has died, I think, the sound track gives you an un-easy feeling that not is all well... Another one is that in "The Dark Knight" pretty much every scene the Joker is in the same music is playing giving a sense of unrest or what ever you want to call it...
What ever happens I hope Ridley and who ever is creating the score they stay away from the late Jerry Goldsmith score as it should only be used in Alien and that they create something new for Prometheus...
Do we really want the Alien score to be used/exposed as much as the zenomorph was in Alien4 and AVP/AVP:R........
Reply BiomechanicPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Soundtrack - AMAZING!Dec 10, 2011
Very much agree Paddy but I don't think we can judge the movie by the trailer. The marketing department that makes the trailers and teasers have one goal, to get as many tickets as possible sold. A good filmmaker just wants to tell an interesting story that they are proud of.
ReplyPaddy101Prometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Soundtrack - AMAZING!Dec 10, 2011
I certainly hope your right about that Biomechanic.....
Plus I thing the Marketing Department have a shit job already with Prometheus...
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
I really hope the film is R or 18 rated, just the thought of trying to watch this at the cinema while a bunch of teenagers mess about & spoil it makes me sick.
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
Engineer Prototype - Model GAJ84
I couldn't agree more Man, and that is exactly why I posted this when I saw it today.
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
I'm waiting for the BBFC to clasify it. Somtimes they might give the trailer for a film a 15 then the film itself an 18.
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
it also says there that the film itself has to be equal or lesser rated when released meaning it will be 14+ or less in Alberta at least, my province, Quebec, might be the ONLY Canadian province to carry a rating different from the rest of North America.
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
Lets hope its not misinformation about the trailer coming out monday.
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
yeah agreed EP, the BBFC base a trailer classification on the the content of the trailer, not what the film is likely to be, which they won't know because they haven't even classified it yet seeing as its not complete. I can't see how the canadian rating agency can have rated a film that won't have been screened for them yet.
That and i don't believe Ridley Scott would have directed the film if he couldn't have made it aimed at a rating he wanted. There's to much love for Alien and i don't think he would risk critical and popular backlash by directing something based on a targetted demographic by the studio. That's why AVP bit my hairy ass
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
MY** hairy ass. I won't comment on whether it bit other peoples, hairy or otherwise.
yes mine is hairy
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
The films official trailer was shipped to them for classification.
the film has also finished filming {it's "In The Can"} and is in post production now.
ReplyRipley Clone 8Prometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
Its should be Rated "R". Dear God... if its PG-13...
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
I dont think exist a trailer R rated for a 100 millions budget movie ...btw the most scaring parts of Alien dont need a R rating
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
I agree completely with Frantz, and at the same time I think a PG rating will Hurt not help this film.
And deep inside I want it to be Rated "R" minimum.
That would say a lot for the content being Reflective of their vision, Untainted, & Raw and as Scott & Giger most certainly want it.
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumPrometheus Trailer Now Classified @ 14+ yrs!Dec 10, 2011
All the films in the Aliens/Predator/AVSP franchise that have been 18 or R rated have been pretty damn good. IMO, everything else has been a let down, i.e, AVP, AVP:R and Predators. Granted, a film does not have to be 18 or R rated to be a blockbuster or all time classic, but with certain films there is not necessarily alot of blood or gore but still an 18 rating is needed due to the psychological horror, and psychological horror is an important ingredient in the Alien franchise, something AVP, AVP:R and Predators were all missing.
ReplyFrantzPrometheus Forum‘I’m running around in underwear’ – Naomi on PrometheusDec 10, 2011
""Ms. Rapace’s unwillingness to shrink from physical torment""
that explain what we see in the trailer ...so she is probably the first to "fall" or being "contaminated".... but she will not bow thanks to her faith or willing force ?? ....more and more interesting ...
ReplySpartacusPrometheus Forum‘I’m running around in underwear’ – Naomi on PrometheusDec 10, 2011
I think you nailed that dead bang on Frantz !
Reply BiomechanicPrometheus Forum‘I’m running around in underwear’ – Naomi on PrometheusDec 10, 2011
Perhaps a mutated fetus is growing inside and it may be dangerous for her and the crew and they want to abort it. Being of strong faith would prevent her from that and she would resist them believing that God was right whatever the reasons for her condition. Could be related to what she is heard to say in the leaked teaser: "You've got to stop." - may be a person trying to tell her to stop the pregnancy "help me, help me please" "I was wrong." "We were so wrong." "I'm so sorry." - her realizing she should have aborted the creature.
ReplyFrantzPrometheus Forum‘I’m running around in underwear’ – Naomi on PrometheusDec 10, 2011
Very interesting idea ...even if the "we were so wrong" contraddict it a bit ...btw you are sure that all the trailer phrases are from noomi ? Some sound a bit different ...but not of english mother ( and neither cousin ) language ...
Reply BiomechanicPrometheus Forum‘I’m running around in underwear’ – Naomi on PrometheusDec 10, 2011
Frantz I said the "you've got to stop" might be another person talking to Noomi. As for the "We" I am sure there were some nefarious characters that want the deformity to be born for whatever reason" maybe an android or two : )
Reply BiomechanicPrometheus Forum‘I’m running around in underwear’ – Naomi on PrometheusDec 10, 2011
BTW I think Rick was the one that first came up with the fetus idea a while back on this site. The abortion part just fits since it would be a hot button topic and one that relates to her faith.
ReplyThadus 12Prometheus Forum‘I’m running around in underwear’ – Naomi on PrometheusDec 10, 2011
I think you could be right about the foetus idea, it all fits in
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