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Where's WierzbowskiAlien Movies ForumMemories of Alien
I never saw Alien in the movie theatre ... I was too young at the time and my parents wouldn't let me go see it. But I read the book first, without seeing any of the visuals, and it simply freaked me out. There's a scene in the book (not in the movie) where Dallas walks across a catwalk while hunting the alien in the airshaft, and it almost grabs him from below, that literally made me jump. It's the only book to actually scare me. When I finally saw the visuals (in the form of the Alien movie novel and in "The Book Of Alien" at the book store) I was mesmerized. It was just a perfect combination of story, concept, and art direction that created something amazing. It was several years later that I finally saw the movie, and was not disappointed at all.
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RickAlien Movies ForumMemories of Aliens
I remember when Aliens came out back in '85. I was 9 then and it took me a week to talk my mother into taking me. I got hooked on the Xeno from Alien that I rented at Blockbuster a couple weeks before the movie came out. They scared the hell out of me back then. I was on the edge of my seat during the entire movie. We made it all the way through the movie to where the Queen turns the corner when Ripley was waiting for the elevator in the reactor and suddenly we heard a loud bang from behind us and through the sound system the film snapped and something blew in the projector when the film busted. We had to get a rain check for the movie. But holy crap that loud bang scared the snot out of me and forever scarred my psyche with Aliens :)
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumRidley Reveals
That's Spunkmeyer Spartacus, Wierzbowski gets taken by a Xeno in the hive. About 1.20 in [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRM8JGz0soI]Let's Rock[/url]
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumRidley Reveals
you're right man, my bad. and my apologies for that mistake of mine. Thanks for pointing it out. & as soon as I read the word,"spunkmeir" LMAO....I knew you were right!!! Regards.
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SpartacusPrometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
I disagree about him not counting 2 or 3, and especially 2. That was a great point about Burke and the androids in general. Whats funny is that even in the movie Aliens itself there is a STRONG suggestion that it is false to assume he wouldn't be able to bring the specimen{s} back to earth because of his programming because during his knife play with Hudson, Bishop Misses and cuts himself, a Clear Sign he is NOT up to the spec he claims he is...and at that point the viewer is forced to believe that something isn't quite right with his mantra of his/it's of non harming of humans. What I am realizing as we move closer to Launch is that the possibilities that these original films left behind are almost limitless and very exciting with regard to their nature and their set up in the 1st one.
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RuhaniyaAlien Movies ForumMemories of Alien
Other than the chest birthing part and the space jockey scene...I would say the scene with Ripley in her underwear trying to get into a space suit...No the parts where Brett is smoking a joint. "I just forgot something, we would like to discuss the bonus situation". Which they just smoked.
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SpartacusAlien Movies ForumMemories of Alien
I found these at a web site entitled, "Arrow In The Head" ! Walter Hill was initially supposed to direct this film but he pulled out and Scott took over. Much of the dialogue in the film was improvised. An early draft of the script had Ripley as a man. A sex scene between Dallas and Ripley was in the script but never filmed. Scott originally wanted a darker ending. He wanted the alien to bite Ripley's head off in the escape shuttle then sit in her chair and start speaking with her voice in a message to Earth. Apparently, 20th Century Fox wasn’t down with that. Veronica Cartwright was originally set to play Ripley but the producers went for Weaver in the long run. A.E. van Vogt sued the film claiming plagiarism of his 1939 story 'Discord in Scarlet. Everything was settled out of court, of course. I would have loved to have seen that alternate ending! & It could have changed a lot today with Prometheus had they ever done that!
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RuhaniyaAlien Movies ForumMemories of Aliens
My favorite part is when they are getting ready to march on to the armored vehicle to load into the drop shit. "Absolutely Bad Asses!","Who's mean!"...right up to the part where Hudson is acting like a wanker and is telling Ripley not to worry cause of why they are the ultimate bad asses!
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumGiger Discussions
Incredible Rick, Thanks man !
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RickPrometheus ForumGiger Discussions
Hey Spart, Yeah that guitar is bada$$. I think I am going to get one for Christmas. Regards, Rick
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JonesyTheCatPrometheus ForumBlade Runner sequel
I understand also that Scott is to direct a film adaptation of The Forever War. That guy is going to be busy!
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Private HudsonPrometheus ForumBlade Runner sequel
I have a feeling he is going to be in the forefront over the next few years, and if he is going to be doing more Sci-Fi, then so much the better, he is just so dam good at that.
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Private HudsonPrometheus ForumDallas Made a bad Decision
Just love the depth and attention to detail this back ground stuff brings to the movie, most non fan's would use the old "SAD" word to sum this up, but I just love it. Wasn't this character info available on the DVD release?
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GuestPrometheus ForumMy expectations for Prometheus
This is in relation to Dallas and Brett's DNA being changed: It is always been said that the "company" wants the alien for their weapons department......... Maybe Prometheus is going to explain the whole process of DNA re-structuring and therefore explain why the company wants the alien, (traditional alien), as a way of hindering their enemy helpless.....???? This would also provide Prometheus with "DNA" to the Alien film which Ridley is on about...... However I do think this would take away a considerable amount of mystery in Alien and Aliens which I think will make them else entertaining. I do think Ridley and Damon are smart enough to no that they shouldn't reveal to many secrets as to destroy the original film... So do you's think have they come up with a new type of link to Alien???
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JonesyTheCatPrometheus ForumMy expectations for Prometheus
Maybe the Alien is cocooning victims also for food, like a spider, after all, every living thing needs to eat. I guess it snacked on Lambert ad Parker first, as there is no sign of them even in the deleted scenes, so I would expect it's saving Brett and Dallas for later. I do agree with the victim-morphing-egg idea though!
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Private HudsonPrometheus ForumMy expectations for Prometheus
I like the morph / absorption theory. From the deleted scene, I believe the human body is used as a simple food, raw material source for new eggs to be created, as seen from the shot of Brett. I never thought the Aliens had the kind of biology that needed food? I always saw it that the inner mouth / jaws were used as a close quarters weapon as i don't remember seeing any victims in the films being eaten by an Alien? As to the looks and appearance of the Jockey Alien, that will be great to see. Would such a mix of DNA create a more intelligent creature? Similar in nature to the "White thing" in Resurrection? Just as a point of interest, the first Aliens novel by Steve Perry features an appearance by a member of the Jockey race. It communicated via telepathy, mentally taking to Billy after an Alien attack. This Jockey was not particularly friendly in nature, Billy was quite scared by the being, in essence, mentally raping her, to transferring images, feelings and it's races future intentions into her mind. The Jockey was also considerably larger than a human, but then we know that for fact from Alien....sorry if you all know this but I thought I would just venture a wee bit of knowledge!
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumRidley Reveals
He has about 3 seconds of partially exposed film time just before he dies via severe slashing via xenomorph as he boards one of the drop ship trasnports and right after Ripley drives the car through the barrier on LKV-426. The transport ship then gets destroyed as the xenomorph eats Corporal Ferro while she's piloting it.
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Paddy101Prometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
First time on the forum... Big Alien fan... Reply to alpasavi: The reason why Ash starts to do a warm up as crew of the Nostromo goes to explore the alien ship is because Ridley and Ian Holm, i.e. Ash, thought that because he was a robot that the motors in his body would get stiff over time and that he would do warm up's to keep them from getting stuck.... It was in one of the DVD commentaries... There is a major need for a trailer for this film...
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SpartacusPrometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
and this is exactly why I suspect we now know, in light of the new addition to the story line, that "Bishop" was always nothing more than a pure mechanical representation of the fact that "WY" wanted ONLY to create a new weapon. They were aware of everything involving The Prometheus by then and from the very start.
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Mr.JPrometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
Why not just send a ship with just androids rather than the human element? The mission would get probably done without interference of the human emotion. Much to debate and think about...I love my fellow fans here...cool stuff!
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SpartacusPrometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
lol...now we know... Bishop was so close to changing everything... & That's why his scream of ..."Nooooooooooooooo" at the very end of Alien3 resonated so strongly with me all these years.... ...I just knew there was something so sinister in that scream, and now we know, he WAS an ANDROID just as Ripley suspected all along, and all he wanted and and all of what he stood for was the capture and exploitation of Ripley's baby !!!
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RickPrometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
Ok guys, explain this to me. If Bishop can't by mission or action harm a human being because of his behavioral inhibitor how would he be able to keep the specimens alive for return to the company labs knowing that they'd kill humans in their reproductive process? I think Burke did something to Bishop since the company owns Bishop and Burke is the company rep there. Is there anything in the anthology somewhere about this?
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Mr.JPrometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
I would not even count Aliens and Alien 3 having anything to do with Alien and Prometheus..pretty sure that Scott has his own intentions with the androids.
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RickPrometheus ForumAlien Evolution
Hey Cain, There is no way the Alien could be a natural organism. It would devastate any bio-system it was in, much like humans but on a much faster scale. Thus it had to have been engineered. We did discuss this a while back. I still think Humans and Aliens could be opposite sides of the same card. We get dropped on a rock we devastate the ecosystem (or terraform it depending on environmental needs), work for the jockey's in the process, bring it to the brink and right when the atmosphere begins to tilt the Aliens get dropped off to clean up the biological and the jockey's have a barren freshly terraformed planet. Granted this may take hundreds of thousands of years but if the Jockey's are as old as the stars what is a 100K-200K years and little to no resources out of pocket? Short answer nothing. Regards, Rick
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Mr.JPrometheus ForumAlien Evolution
Thanks mate! yeah, I know there are several theories that are floating around. Being engineered makes sense to me..I mean, it grew rather fast as we saw in Alien. I am wandering if it started off as another creature or perhaps something happens in Prometheus where human dna and the whatever is in that canister starts . Of course, the ship with all those eggs in there had to come from some where and was perhaps the jockey dumping them somewhere or going to do a kamikaze into a distant sun? I know in Alien, the signal was repeating, warting off anyone..a warning or has that changed?
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Where's WierzbowskiPrometheus ForumCould the Space Jockey be...... Oh No it is!!!!! JarJar Binks!!!!!!
The biggest problem I see with prequels is they rob the originals of some of their mystery (especially when they aren't well done). The derelict ship in "Alien" fascinated me and I wanted to see more of it. I imagined being able to explore it, to discover its secrets (safely), and wondered at its history. The thought that I may actually see the derelict flying through space worries me. Just as the Star Wars prequels robbed Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker of his mysterious past (something diehard fans spent countless hours imagining), Prometheus could do the same. Some of the best sci-fi movies I've seen tend to not answer all the questions, because our imaginations are always more powerful than something put down on film. Prometheus is promising to me because it connects to Alien without being a true prequel. It may answer some of the questions of the Space Jockey and the derelict, but I hope it leaves some questions unanswered.
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Where's WierzbowskiPrometheus ForumMissing Alien
It'll be interesting how Ridley reconciles the lifecycle of the alien in Prometheus with the variants seen in "Alien" and "Aliens". If the Space Jockey gave birth to a queen, it could have created all those eggs before it dies (or goes into hibernation - something alluded to in the Alien novelization). It seems that Ridley's vision originally required the alien to cocoon victims in order to transform them into eggs. If that's the case, where did those eggs come from in the derelict? Of course, there's the possibility that the alien transforms its first victim into an egg that generates a queen ...
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SpartacusPrometheus Forum190 min ...WOW !!
The Longer the better, and I disagree completely with whoever said their will be No Aliens in the film, I think there will be plenty, just not in the Xenomorph form we are used to now, but rather the precursor forms of what eventually evolved into the Xenomorph we are used to seeing.
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Ghost SolitarePrometheus ForumMy expectations for Prometheus
We know at least one Xenomorph came from the Space Jockey, what might it have been like? Was it responsible for all the eggs in the silo beneath the chair?
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Where's WierzbowskiPrometheus ForumRidley Reveals
All of the little comments being dropped by Ridley & Co. are making me think that we will see [i]very[/i] little of the "Alien" itself in this movie. In fact, I don't think we'll see recognizable Space Jockeys either, until the end. Ridley already hinted that the Space Jockey may have been wearing some kind of bio-mechanical suit, so the actual creature itself may look different. I believe those creatures - the original engineers/terraformers of Earth - will figure prominently in the second/third act of the story. I also think "Prometheus" will indeed refer to one of these engineers, who breaks from the rules of his own society to share their terraforming/life-creating technology with the human crew that finds them. I wouldn't be surprised if, at the end, "Prometheus" will be punished by being subjected to the very technology he tried to share - a xenomorph. Perhaps he's impregnated with it, escapes in a ship, but crashes on LV-426, where he ultimately perishes from a chestburster (but only after initiating a warning signal). The eggs on the ship all came from that creature (open to debate, since there are many variants on the alien's lifecycle). Since I expect some of the human crew to survive, perhaps the information they share is the catalyst for interest of Weyland-Yutani in the Zeti Reticuli system. Maybe that's why ships passing through that area of space are listening for distress signals in the first place. If the story followed such an arc, it indeed has links to Alien but would truly be a standalone film. That makes it pretty interesting as a prequel, in my book. Any thoughts?
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spacejockPrometheus ForumRidley Reveals
Where's Wierzbowski, how did you get that name?? lol Yes I couldnt agree with you more on the plot; I always thought the name Prometheus will refer to one of these giant creatures.
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alpasaviPrometheus ForumRidley Reveals
Lets just waith, after all this expectation, tath prometheus fullfils what has promised to be.
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RickPrometheus ForumRidley Reveals
Spacejock, It's from Aliens when they first make contact and he disappears and the gun bag is on fire. Hick's asks where's Wierzbowski? Damn.....I think I have that whole movie memorized that's scary. Regards, Rick
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Where's WierzbowskiPrometheus ForumRidley Reveals
You've gotta admit that it's funny that Wierzbowski never shows up anywhere in that film. The poor actor is in the credits ... but I have no idea what he looks like because he has no screen time! And I've seen Aliens more times than I can count!
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spacejockPrometheus ForumRidley Reveals
Lmao that is funny, im gonna watch that movie now again lol.
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Mr.JPrometheus ForumRidley Reveals
I think we all have Alien and Aliens down in memory..lol.
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GuestPrometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
I thought that they all heared that sound and that it was part of the technical problems. But about the alien, it's a pretty big to say it's perfect after all you know is that it's having acid blood and a great skin. Yes, Ash says it isn't weakend by thoughts or morality, but how could he know? all he saw was a dead facehugger and a chestburster, and that Dallas didn't seemed to be killed. In my view he couldn't have known anything about it's 'thoughts'. I really think the company knew more about them. And when Ash talks about his perfect creater and why it is that, he is not more than just a head on a table, so it might be that he can tell it due to his 'problems'. He also was the person who didn't want to remove the facehugger and made the chestburster escape.
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xenomorphasmidPrometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
(haha, my second try to post this) About the 'elephant' sound, I thought it was part of the mechanical problems on the shuttle and that Parker just get's scared of it. I think Ash got a lot of confident information from the company after the distress call. I really believe he had had to know more then he told, cause all he knew about them was that they bleed acid, have a very 'strong' skin and that it might not have killed Dallas. Ash talks about the fact the are not weakened by thought's and morality, while know's nothing about there behavior. In first place he only calls the facehugger 'a though one'. Only when he is having some 'technical problems' he starts to talk about the aliens being a perfect creature and why. He also let's the chestburster escape, like he wanted it to propagate (as seen in the deleted/director's cut 'scene' scene) , instead of freezing it and keeping the alien alive.
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FrantzPrometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
if the company knew what the alien was then they should know how dangerous it was ... and then would have been ridicolous to send an unarmed crew of only 7 to in an spaceship with thousands eggs ... So if the company knew something ( and i think not ) it should have been something very vague .
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xenomorphasmidPrometheus Forum"Perfect Organism"
The Nostromo could have been in space already and to bring back an alien, the must have been unarmed, cause every person with a own mind would have tried to kill it directly. Ash was an android with as only purpose 'to ensure the safe return of the organism' just like mother. And the Alien(s) wouldn't be able to use his mechanical body, so if he locked himself or the alien(s) up, they could travel home safely, where the company could 'pick them up' and capture the alien(s). And I say nothing for sure, it's just a possibility. So we'll see in june.
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