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ChrisPrometheus ForumPrometheus Grey Matter and CanistersOct 2, 2011
These are all very great ideas everyone! I especially like [b]Rick[/b]'s take on the "matter" where he said:
[quote]What if the the grey matter is nanite suspension. I mean Giger likes to combine biological with mechanical, so keeping with Gigers theme Nano technology would be key to altering DNA, and Alien DNA is supposed to be key to the movie. That is the only way I see it being possible to convert humans.
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VERY good theory [b]Rick[/b]. I like how you tied it in with the vague synopsises released by FOX - whatever they did give us to work with, regarding the DNA aspect.
I also especially like your take [b]Frantz[/b], about how the jars contain the genetic code of previous species which had been wiped out. Very imaginative!
It would be interesting to find out if this was the case; that these jars are a form of storage of life - keys to unlocking life itself. It does tie in with the general focus for the film, so I don't see why not.
I have to say though, I don't doubt for a minute that we could be "off" in our assumptions. I think we will be very surprised how much we "guessed" that will turn out to be accurate come time for Prometheus' release. I'm curious to hear what other theories lie out there in the minds of our fans! Keep posting your thoughts!
ReplyMentosPrometheus ForumPrometheus Grey Matter and CanistersOct 2, 2011
I can't wait to see what happens!
I assume some sort of sabotage will take place on the ship.
Group of scientists - fantastic discovery - [b]Now who to test it on?[/b]
I'll place a bet one of the crew infects another to discover the properties of the Green Goo/Grey matter.
ReplyGhost SolitarePrometheus ForumPrometheus Grey Matter and CanistersOct 2, 2011
If the film is to be completely original,and not just rehashing the politics, and devious nature of the human species we would not see any of the predictable plot possibilities. Imagine what happens to a species that has travelled the stars, perfected medical science to the point that immortality and physical perfection are mere options rather than dreams. A species that has tinkered with the evolution of countless evolving lifeforms on different worlds. Lacking our limited mentality they did not suffer from greed, boredom, or avarice. They advanced past thinking of wars and conquest, and abandonned further exploration because a cultural ennui settled upon them. Having done everything imaginable they turned inwards. Death being the last unexplored territory left to them, the xenomorph or something similar being the ultimate tool for enabling an entire species to just vanish. Flash forward to a small group of explorers from Earth, finding the remnants of this civilization, who can say what the state of decay might be, or if there are any remaining examples of this godlike race left alive. One can only imagine what this being would think of us. This race just setting it's feet upon a path it's own kind had travelled for eons. It could range from the tender nurturing behavior of a true Gaia, to a much darker jealousy that it has reached the end of the line for an entire culture. It would be hard to surrender the cradle of life to another when you come from a race that has lain in it for so very, very long. So it matters not if it is by design, or by accident that this terror is unleased. All that matters is how we deal with it.
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumPrometheus Grey Matter and CanistersOct 2, 2011
that's pretty well thought out and very deep Ghost Solitaire, great job on that, I loved reading it, and thanks for sharing it. Made sense, and got me thinking on a whole other level.
ReplyNatrixAlien Fan Art ForumPrometheus Comic Con Video Screen CapsOct 2, 2011
Hasn't had time to look, well and it is fine - it will be more interesting :)
ReplySpartacusAlien Fan Art ForumGot bored so I did some photo shop and this is what i came up with...Oct 2, 2011
KRAMER...lmao...
I never thought I'd see him here.
ReplyAlienAlien Fan Art ForumGot bored so I did some photo shop and this is what i came up with...Oct 2, 2011
Lol i know! i wish i could find a pic of him where i can place a pulse rifle in his hand and or one where i can have a chestburster bursting outta himwith him have the expression of it happening...
Reply RuhaniyaPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeOct 1, 2011
That was some funny shit, I commend your knightly joust! It's just like that hidden scene in Alien where after the alien hits the box with the cat in it, then opens it and hugs Ripleys pussy! Hey, how many aliens does it take to screw in a light bulb? None, cause they like to see in the dark! Why didn't the space cockey cross the road? Cause he couldn't find the zipper? What to you call space men who have lost their minds? Astronuts! What came first the Xeno or the Egg? The egg cause I didn't say Xeno egg!
U.F.O you Fuck Off
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeOct 1, 2011
@Predalien: What...you never tried Arcturian Poon TANG? It's what the astronauts used to eat...and drink! And...No man! I don't wanna talk about what its made of...I'm eatin' it!
@Ruhaniya: You sick...twisted...FSchmuck!...............
Reply RuhaniyaPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeOct 1, 2011
Ya, her cat you know : | that's almost as bad as Why didn't the alien eat Ripleys Meow? Cause it had a bad case of the Space Jockey!
ReplyChrisPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeOct 1, 2011
Alright guys, let's keep the language clean here. Stay on topic.
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumTrailer soon?Oct 1, 2011
"AWESOME"
~SPOKEN LIKE EDDY MURPHY AS "BOWFINGER"
ReplyChrisPrometheus ForumTrailer soon?Oct 1, 2011
It would be awesome. I'll be asking around, seeing if we can expect a trailer in the next month or so.
ReplyShaka, When the walls fellAlien Fan Art ForumGot bored so I did some photo shop and this is what i came up with...Oct 1, 2011
I can definitely see the sexual overtones now!!!!!
ReplyAlienPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 30, 2011
Did u two really had to argue about whats is/isnt sexual about the movie? Really?...
Well.... I guess w/e turns "someone" on.... good for them... just keep it to urself... lol
ReplyChrisPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 30, 2011
Wow, quite the rant there you two. Hah, nothing wrong with a difference of opinion, it's what makes these forums exciting. However, I doubt [b]Jonsey[/b] was referring to the sexual aspects in Giger's work with regards to Alien when he started this topic. ;)
ReplyChrisPrometheus ForumTrailer soon?Sep 30, 2011
I'm sure we can expect something as we lead into December. There's some speculation that we'll see some teaser near the end of October, but no official word from Fox about that yet.
ReplyjoannaPPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 29, 2011
I don't really believe that these creatures like aliens really exists but I love it when film directors make movies out of aliens and other mysterious creatures. I even love the movie Harry Potter since a lot of fascinating creatures were there..:) Anyway just recently I read in an article that the animal actor who performed as Padfoot in the Harry Potter films was abandoned and is currently in an animal shelter in the United Kingdom and is ready for adoption. I found this article here: [url=http://www.newsytype.com/11993-harry-potter-dog-homeless/]Former Harry Potter dog actor homeless
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ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 29, 2011
that remember us that often we are much worse than the Aliens race :p
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 29, 2011
Ah yes, the subject of ALIEN eroticism.
Hey Space-boys, I’ve got to concur with Spartacus on this one. Once one accepts the fact that Hans Ruedi Giger was, and is, is a complete sexual pervert, the sooner we can put this subject to “bed.” The bulk of Giger’s work includes penile, vaginal, mammary, and gratuitous, gluteus ASS shapes. When I say sexual pervert…I thoroughly mean it! H.R. takes the idea of conventional, human sexuality, and twists it into bizarre, grotesque, horrific…yet beautiful and harmonious images. And since I am a fan of sex myself…and probably a pervert as well…I say HUZZAH! WELL DONE “G”!
Some of the best times I’ve ever had in the boudoir, could be classified as a little dark or disturbing…or at least shocking. WOW! Didn’t imagine writing about this when I woke up this morning. Anyhoo, I believe that the eroticism or sexual overtones (or undertones) were absolutely intended by the filmmakers…from the beginning:
The vaginal openings in the Derelict ship.
The Derelict interiors.
The Egg and its opening.
The oral penetration of the facehugger.
The underside features of the facehugger (hopefully, no explanation necessary…)
Ashes oral penetration of Ripley with the magazine (WHO DOES THAT?! Ha!).
The phallus shaped Alien infant.
The even more phallic shaped head of the “Big Guy.”
The pornography hanging on the walls of the living quarters.
Do we need to go on…?
Whatta ya think FRANTZ? Yes…no…maybe?
~Neurion
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 29, 2011
Ok ok you want WAR then !! and war will be !! ;)
The vaginal openings in the Derelict ship.
- only if you say to me i will notice ...btw is part of giger stuff ..have no means to the movie .
The Derelict interiors.
- are bones to me
The Egg and its opening.
- dude no ..really , i hope you didnt had nothing sexual like this ...is more of a plant ..something like a carnivorous plant .
The oral penetration of the facehugger.
- again ..they cant use other holes to implang eggs ..and btw that is the only way to give breath ..they do in the hospital too , we call it intubation ( i hope it translate well )
The underside features of the facehugger
- i can find you 98473 marine animals that are done in that way or parasites ..and you can find something sexual in every of them
Ashes oral penetration of Ripley with the magazine (WHO DOES THAT?! Ha!).
- is see like ashes learned by the facehugger how to suffocate people ..as you see he think alot before doing it
The phallus shaped Alien infant.
- then there are alot of phallic things in the world ..every thing that is a bit round shaped ... to be hones a football ball is more phallic than that
The even more phallic shaped head of the “Big Guy.”
- no no come on every insect is then a pervert ..that is a great design idea but phallic no come on ..then all the Popes hats have a phallic meaning .
The pornography hanging on the walls of the living quarters.
- that is a classic of every spaceship movie or war movie ... men beds are always covered with that ..in reality too
so who won ??????? :))
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 29, 2011
Dear Frantz,
It was not my intention to start a war with you…or anyone else. Although, I do like your spunk and feistiness. Especially, since France has a reputation of cowardice, I would’ve expected you to tuck tail and run. So, good for you! I like your style!
I hope that translates clearly enough for you.
Let me see if I can clear this up. Obviously, I’m not the greatest writer, and I’m apparently having a difficult time explaining my point.
In my opinion, the psychosexual or pseudoerotic elements that I believe exist in the original ALIEN film, were not intended to be consciously obvious or directly identifiable to the viewer. They are woven through the fabric of the film, in order to create and provoke an emotional and psychological atmosphere that would be conducive to the telling of this strange tale. Most films, especially in the horror genre, are not so clever or well crafted. This is one of the prime reasons that ALIEN has stood the test of time. Like “THE EXOCIST,” it dared to take itself seriously, and thereby transcended the horror film “mold.” That is what separates it from all of the other garbage that has been produced over the past thirty some odd years.
Think about it, if a man is infatuated with a woman, and he wants to impress her, it’s probably best not to knock her over the head with the idea. Like ALIEN’s filmmakers, he should create a conducive atmosphere in which to work his champagne. Romance her, charm her, woo her, seduuuuuuce her…then like Ridley Scott…and the Alien, go in for the kill.
Well that’s my two cents. Are we still at war...Frantz?
Ciao,
~Neurion
P.S. Hope you don’t hate me for having a different interpretation than your own. XXXOOO
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 29, 2011
i was jocking :) thats why i did put the " :D" or " :)" ... i dont think i would be able to get angry about ****heads aliens :D
my point is that OFTEN people , expecially journalist , critics in particular , have to write alot ..and so they start to see things that i honestly dont think they exist ..
lets do a famous example ... GUERNICA of Picasso ..how many words they did spend on it ? the tragedy of war !! Symbols everywhere !! deep means in every paint drop !!
all false !! all words used for nothing !!
Picasso did this paint to symbolize the death of a "torero" , it did mean nothing with war while he was doing it ...a friend asked him a paint for a show and he did change the name of the paint ... so books , great words and big means wasted for nothing . I fear that we are doing a bit the same here
but then dear friend we are always different people with different views and different tastes , and that is good :)
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 29, 2011
Hey Frantz,
I apologize for misunderstanding your good and fair sense of internet banter and decorum. And I applaud you for not responding in a belligerent manner. You certainly out-classed me this time around. Though I still hold to my opinion regarding the afore mentioned subject, I whole heartedly agree with you in regard to self indulgent journalism by many critics.
God help me! I hope I’m not “metamorphosing” into a thing I never wanted to be…A metro-sexual, clown, who spends far too much of my time on the internet, arguing with people I’ve never met…face to face…about a MOVIE! Holy crap…it must be true! Noooooooooooo! Sorry I misjudged you. Also, the translation does read a bit unintelligible sometimes. In addition, some of the :-) or “happy face” symbols do not show up clearly. It’s probably the same on your end :-)
Paix,
~Neurion
ReplyMentosPrometheus ForumPrometheus Effects : New School Vs. Old SchoolSep 29, 2011
[b]Xenotron[/b] that is actually incorrect.
Ridley has been recently quoted (possibly in the Comic-con footage? I can't quite remember) but anyway, he said that:
[b]"Thats a miss conception, its actually no cheaper to do things with CGI".[/b]
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumMore from LindelofSep 29, 2011
i think the only new part is the last one ...to keep the main character hidden until the last ...that is really great , i hope they witll do that again .
Until now we thought that the main characters are Noomi rapace , Charlize Theron and Fassbender ....but maybe we are wrong
ReplyHudson25Prometheus ForumMore from LindelofSep 29, 2011
I think it would be a nice change to see the Captain actually live for once. Idris Elba plays pretty cool characters from what I've seen. HIm and Fassbender's David would be a welcomed surprise. Since Androids in the Alien universe usually get torched, dismembered and damaged in shuttle crashes. lol
ReplyMentosPrometheus ForumTrailer soon?Sep 29, 2011
Does this mean that they have been shooting extra footage exclusively for the trailer?!?
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumTrailer soon?Sep 29, 2011
IT seems a bit too early for a trailer ..but i think they should release the Comic con footage soon to keep people busy and interested until february ( for a real teaser trailer )
ReplyMentosPrometheus ForumSynopsis changes slightlySep 29, 2011
Hmm :S
I'm not sure how I feel about that.
That seems to confirm the whole "SJ with a payload of egg bombs" theory. IE: the Xenos have been genetically engineered by the SJ's as weapons.
I'd rather see the crew mutation theory come into play to be honest.
ALSO...just a quick addition to that: Xeno's as weapons...that kind of reminds be of AVP a bit too much. *Pukes*
ReplyReimerPrometheus ForumPrometheus Rating !Sep 28, 2011
Yes, the rating dispute is a worry. Might the 3D release be PG13, the 2D release R? Has there BEEN a 3D 'R' film in the current gimmick wave? IIRC 'Saturday Night Fever' was recut for a family audience and re-released whilst the original was still playing, such was the level of interest from kids so there's some sort of precedent. But perhaps an even bigger concern is our collective expectations of this film - 'Prometheus' as 'The Phantom Menace'.
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 28, 2011
Spartacus , you theory is approved by alot of critics and movie reviewes ... but still i dont agree ...all the sex references were made MANY years after , some i think from an already sick O'Bannon and some others by ridley to keep the commentary more interesting . In the first interviews there is nothing like this .
Anyway if you have someone impregnated with some other's eggs ...which hole you can use ?? i think the mouth is the only one usable in a mainstream movie :D ..we also know that the shift to a woman hero was a last time decision , well after the basic story was made .
The only erotic part of the movie is ripley seminaked near the monster BUT that is the classic eroticism of the nude beauty near the monster :D
So i dont deny some minor sexual references and erotism BUT i think is 90% smoke that was made to write about something ...in my opinion of course ( maybe its you that are right )
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumAlien/Prometheus in everyday lifeSep 28, 2011
to tell you the truth, I do not care what they intended one way or another and agree with everything you all said...I just referenced it because I felt it would stimulate this kind of discussion which I think is cool.
To me ALIEN was just about SCARING people properly in a way the movies hadn't done since, well, since Nosferatu or movies of that nature.
I remember sitting in the theater with my 2 best friends 32 and some odd years ago and we , all three of us, FREAKED at the same time at the moment the dead facehugger left Kane's face and later during the subsequent search of the medical room fell onto Ripley's lap and we saw what it looked like underneath as ASH then began to examine it.
I remember thinking this...FINALLY...a professionally done horror movie in which the GORE is completely credible....and frightening as all frikkin' hell.
Could this be any better, and it couldn't, as we watched it, the three of us were literally squirming in our seats, it was OVERWHELMING the atmosphere that the first film created.
I felt that everything in my post other than the references to implied sexuality, were really really good examples of ALIEN references in real life.
And that NASA discovery is disturbing to me on so many levels!!!
It is on a par with telling me there's a Good Chance an actual XENOMORPH exists out there.
Reminds me of what has to be the SINGLE MOST APPROPRIATE AND enduring line in any of all the four films, and it IS NOT EVEN DEBATEABLE... IMO THAT IS...THERE WAS NO ONE LINE THAT DEFINED THIS SERIES OF FILMS ANY BETTER THAN THE LINE ISSUED BY THE CLONED RIPLEY AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF RESURRECTION....
"MY MOMMY ALWAYS SAID THERE WERE NO MONSTERS...NO REAL ONES....BUT THERE ARE" !!!
ReplyMentosPrometheus ForumPrometheus Effects : New School Vs. Old SchoolSep 28, 2011
Practical > CGI. Practical is so, so much better.
Ridley has stated that he'll ONLY be using practical effects for this film. At Comic Con Charlize Theron said not seen any CGI used, or any green screen sets (just mock up CGI shots used on monitors to help the actors perform whilst on set).
And we also know for a fact that huge 200ft sets have been built inside the 007 stage at Pinewood.
More over; very, very early Prometheus news stated that an "8ft Anamatronic SJ had been built", with other rumours stating that the SJ will be "played by a man in a giant costume".
So I think it looks promising!
...Although there was an early on-set sighting that essentially stated: "3 Xenos were spotted in blu-fx suits and were ready for work on green screen".
We'll have to see!
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumPrometheus Effects : New School Vs. Old SchoolSep 28, 2011
I think a minimum of CGI will be used ...the only problem i see with pratical effects is that the movie will be totally in darkness ( and from some shoots it seems so ) ... and to be honest im a bit bored with this ... im not worried of CGI if they are made with taste ... ET was a pratical effect that today will make us laugh ...and jar jar is a CGI effect that today make us cry ...
ReplyReimerPrometheus ForumPrometheus Effects : New School Vs. Old SchoolSep 28, 2011
Given Scott's avowed aims with the film I suspect CGI is largely extraneous to the project, apart from depicting space-flight. I hope he doesn't want to have the SJ swimming in pursuit of the earthlings.
ReplyXenotronPrometheus ForumPrometheus Effects : New School Vs. Old SchoolSep 28, 2011
[i]No one talks bad about David Fincher[/i]. [b]No one[/b]. Alien 3 was not his fault; it was Fox's. Fincher was brought onto that movie very late into production and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_3]didn't even have a definite script for most of it[/url]. He saved it if anything.
Of course Ridley Scott is going to use CGI: it's cheap and is more practical in terms of rendering things on the screen. He'll probably use CGI for panoramic shots or full-body E.T. shots and then use make-up and rubber suits for close-ups.
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumPrometheus Effects : New School Vs. Old SchoolSep 28, 2011
i SPOKE at length about him...go look again please.
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