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@Fishy Friend those are good points, I totally forgot about the similar scenes Resurrection. That film was more coherent and better overall though imo despite being very silly at times.

lmao “Very silly” is such an accurate description for that movie <333 (love it to death though AHAHHA)

I also totally agree it was definitely more coherent and straight forward!! But on the other hand, TV shows gotta keep up the mystery so you stay interested, so maybe they’re being intentionally stingy with their reasonings for now… Hopefully it all starts to come together and makes sense soon. I guess that’s the drawback of weekly episodes, it interrupts the flow and it’s easier to forget and/or miss things!!

Well said, I do agree with you. As much as the perfectionist in me wishes it could all connect like a perfect puzzle piece – I realize it never will. Too many hands in the cookie jar. You bring up good points as well. I was hopeful the series would have tied into or expanded on the prequel lore and the expansion Ridley Scott set out to do with Prometheus. I'll fight for that expansion till my last breath 😂As much as I personally want the series to make sense and fit into film canonical timelines, I too am thankful it exists in its own lane now. I just don't understand why writers, directors and producers wouldn't WANT to keep everything tightly knit and connected into one cohesive thing. I guess to each their own.Also, your OP had weird formatting and one typo, so I did my best to fix the formatting and fixed the Alien: Earth release year to 2120 from 2020. 🙂 Great topic, though!As for why they wouldn't want things connected, I think it's this arrogant thinking of "anything you can do i can do better". Minor spoiler for tonight's episode of Alien Earth: There's a tense confrontation between Dame Sylvia and Nibs and Sylvia attempts to diffuse the situation by offering tea. Watching the scene i was like "hmm where have I seen this before?" Prometheus naturally. Hawley wants to draw things from it but not tie into it. Arthur and Dame can't conceive children? Sounds like Shaw and Holloway. He picked what he liked and ignores the rest. Also reminds me of the thinking that went into the Star Wars sequels where the lead up to Episode VII was all about downplaying the prequels. It was pretty clear JJ Abrams didn't care for them therefore didn't want to acknowledge them. Same with Rian Johnson. It does make me appreciate that Fedè Alvarez embraced all aspects of the franchise with Romulus. Plenty of call backs to virtually every movie and forging an intimate connection to prequel lore. Even if it came off of as memberberry overload.

Why wasn't the redheaded girl examined after that multi eyed octopus attacked her? I think that thing put something inside her and that is why she is so hostile now. She was a scared rabbit before.

As of tonight it is confirmed- yes... yes she can.

How can this be? She was created before the xenomorph arrived on Earth. The redheaded girl might have gotten stuck with something from that multi eyed octopus. That scene with the goat was disgusting.

I was wondering about that brief scene with Boy and Atom, while they are observing the eye creature attack the sheep. Boy slams the ball he always plays with into the glass, and Atom grabs it with the speed and agility of an Android. I wonder if this is a misdirect, or if Atom is secretly another one of Boy's Androids (like Kirsh). It would track that Boy Kavalier would not only surround himself with rnYes-Men, but would go so far as to create those Yes-Men himself.

This would make sense actually. With a name like Atom too, makes me wonder as well. His demeanour matches that of a Synthetic, much like David’s butler vibes in the prequels during his service to Weyland. I bet we see Atom and Kirsh knock heads soon, as you can see Kirsh disdain growing for Boy 😂 He’s so sick of his shit lol

True I guess we do get instances where Xenomorphs “speak” in previous films, namely Resurrection. David and the Neomorph was something of a pre-communication event but you could tell he was on his way – which is why David reacted so “emotionally” to the Neomorph being killed.

I assumed Kirsh had simply relayed Weyland-Yutani’s records and their reference of the creature as a Xenomorph, but again – lazy writing, this could have easily been referenced in a quick 3 second frame when he was scanning the records on the Maginot.

I’m giving this show benefit of the doubt and enjoying the ride for what it’s worth but the writing is pretty bad. Again, maybe it’s how my brain works but I like things to be organized and to assume the audiences will just assume they know what a Xenomorph is, is lazy writing.

@Fishy Friend those are good points, I totally forgot about the similar scenes Resurrection. That film was more coherent and better overall though imo despite being very silly at times.

I was wondering about that brief scene with Boy and Atom, while they are observing the eye creature attack the sheep. Boy slams the ball he always plays with into the glass, and Atom grabs it with the speed and agility of an Android. I wonder if this is a misdirect, or if Atom is secretly another one of Boy's Androids (like Kirsh). It would track that Boy Kavalier would not only surround himself with Yes-Men, but would go so far as to create those Yes-Men himself.

In the opening moments of episode 4 while Kirsh, Dame and her husband are examining Wendy Kirsh calls the organism a xenomorph.  Right after that Boy walks in and he also calls it a xenomorph. I can't recall seeing a prior reference by Prodigy personnel so maybe they've reviewed the Weyland - Yutani files off screen. 

Nibs seems to be having a psychotic break. Dame referees to this as a level 3 event, so they either have some prior experience with this or they already had a protocol for someone not adapting to the hybrid "upgrade".  Nibs was touched on the face by the eyeball monster's tentacles in episode 2 but managed to push it off.  Did the creature possibly implant something that could take over a synthetic just like it did the sheep? 

Wendy's brother raised a great point - shouldn't the other kids families be there. Shouldn't there have been parties instead of funerals?  These kids are just property now - "human" lab rats if you will. 

Not sure what Kirsh is up to. He knows about Morrow and Slightly's plan to face hug some but I don't know what he's going to do about it. 

And lastly Wendy and her pet chest burster is just a bit much. I truly hope they are not planning a Jurassic World raptor whisperer type role for her.

 Maybe we will find out

they will be riding around on xenomorphs by the end of this season.

Well said, I do agree with you. As much as the perfectionist in me wishes it could all connect like a perfect puzzle piece – I realize it never will. Too many hands in the cookie jar. You bring up good points as well. I was hopeful the series would have tied into or expanded on the prequel lore and the expansion Ridley Scott set out to do with Prometheus. I'll fight for that expansion till my last breath 😂As much as I personally want the series to make sense and fit into film canonical timelines, I too am thankful it exists in its own lane now. I just don't understand why writers, directors and producers wouldn't WANT to keep everything tightly knit and connected into one cohesive thing. I guess to each their own.Also, your OP had weird formatting and one typo, so I did my best to fix the formatting and fixed the Alien: Earth release year to 2120 from 2020. 🙂 Great topic, though!

As for why they wouldn't want things connected, I think it's this arrogant thinking of "anything you can do i can do better". Minor spoiler for tonight's episode of Alien Earth: There's a tense confrontation between Dame Sylvia and Nibs and Sylvia attempts to diffuse the situation by offering tea. Watching the scene i was like "hmm where have I seen this before?" Prometheus naturally. Hawley wants to draw things from it but not tie into it. Arthur and Dame can't conceive children? Sounds like Shaw and Holloway. He picked what he liked and ignores the rest. Also reminds me of the thinking that went into the Star Wars sequels where the lead up to Episode VII was all about downplaying the prequels. It was pretty clear JJ Abrams didn't care for them therefore didn't want to acknowledge them. Same with Rian Johnson. It does make me appreciate that Fedè Alvarez embraced all aspects of the franchise with Romulus. Plenty of call backs to virtually every movie and forging an intimate connection to prequel lore. Even if it came off of as memberberry overload.

Thanks for the fixes! I saw them and went back to edit and still couldn't fix them. Might be a mobile thing. I jammed this thing out during the afternoon on my phone. I overlooked the typo though lol and the year as well. 

Nibs stating that she was pregnant definitely threw me for a loop at first, but as Dame Sylvia was questioning her I started to see how her believed “pregnancy” is probably a manifestation of the trauma she experienced on the Maginot. Nibs is just a kid and wouldn’t know how to cope with what happened, and thus made up this pregnancy in her head as a way to explain the feelings she has (plus a “trauma pregnancy” fits in nicely with the rest of the symbolism of the franchise lmao).

As to the mysticism of the Xenomorphs in relation to their communication with Wendy, I actually didn’t view this as being an entirely new concept. In multiple movies there have been scenes where I believed humans and Xenomorphs to have a strange parent/child “connection”, symbolism which obviously stems from the way Xenomorphs are parasitically birthed from humans. Ripley 8 + Newborn, Kay + Offspring, David + Neomorph, all stood out to me as having this connection (although now as I type this out I guess I realize that most these examples are not typical humans nor typical Xenomorphs) BUT my point still stands that I had initially seen this as an expansion on something that has been hinted at before. 

This connection isn’t to show Xenomorphs being “humanized”, but instead highlight their bastardization of humanity- Birthed from us, but twisted and animalistic (hey wait, this reminds me of that scene of Kirsh telling Wendy that she is “no longer an animal”, hmmmm……. I must reflect on this) 

I just pray that they don’t try to make the Xenomorph a “good guy” in any way through its connection with Wendy, I need it to show it’s true nature and turn on her and everyone else!

Also I totally know what you mean with Boy Kavalier calling it a Xenomorph out of the blue, I was so shocked and tried to rack my brain to try and remember if that was the first time they referent to the alien by that name or not HAHAHAHHA I hope they clarify!!!! 

Disney has now officially turned the once dreadful xenomorph into the new baby Yoda (chestburster plushie in stores now!) Wendy doing her deadpan facial expression akin to a literal bird nesting box while chirping and petting a chestburster, Dame explaining to Nibs how a woman's egg is fertilized by the man's sperm and Morrow asking Slightly to steal a xenomorph egg, all combined in dragged-out and cringe worthy scenes with acting so bad I'm starting to wonder if Tommy Wiseau secretly wrote the script. I get that series have filler episodes but this is disappointing garbage. Sorry to put it so bluntly and again it's not my intention to rain on anyone's parade. I'm just speaking from my heart here. This is a high budget production marred by atrocious writing. 

As of tonight it is confirmed- yes... yes she can. 

Well said, I do agree with you. As much as the perfectionist in me wishes it could all connect like a perfect puzzle piece – I realize it never will. Too many hands in the cookie jar. You bring up good points as well. I was hopeful the series would have tied into or expanded on the prequel lore and the expansion Ridley Scott set out to do with Prometheus. I'll fight for that expansion till my last breath 😂

As much as I personally want the series to make sense and fit into film canonical timelines, I too am thankful it exists in its own lane now. I just don't understand why writers, directors and producers wouldn't WANT to keep everything tightly knit and connected into one cohesive thing. I guess to each their own.

Also, your OP had weird formatting and one typo, so I did my best to fix the formatting and fixed the Alien: Earth release year to 2120 from 2020. 🙂 Great topic, though!

Cute lil guy eh...

I love sci-fi obviously but ironically I wasn't as captivated by Blade Runner 2049 and Dune as I was with his earlier works such as Prisoners and Sicario, which are some of the most tense films I've seen in recent memory. Denis really knows how to set a mood, build tension and create eerieness down to the slightest detail, and with that in mind coupled with the fact that he's a phenomenal director overall, I'd really like to see his take on an Alien film, in true Denis cinematographic flair if you will. 

I totally agree. I love all his movies, especially DUNE, Blade Runner and Arrival. His visual is magnificent. If he directs ALIEN one day that will be so interesting because O'Bannon & HR Giger were supposed to be involved in the production of ''Jodorowsky's Dune'' but the movie ended up cancelled. For that reason the ideas of ALIEN came along. If Denis Villeneuve directs a sequel that will be like coming to a full circle. 

I originally thought Wendy was the one rejecting her body, but it looks like Nibs is the one it's happening to. That, or she is somehow in communication (or being controlled) with the eye monster, like Wendy is for the Xenomorph. I wonder if each of the kids will connect/communicate with each of the monsters, there's one for each of them I think.rnAlso, this made me laugh so hard lol.

Nibs is definitely not adapting well to being a hybrid. If you look back at episode 2 at the 26:30 mark the eyeball monster actually touches Nib's face with its tentacles.  On first watch I thought Nibs caught with her hands and avoided further contact but she didn't.   I can't claim credit for spotting this - someone on YouTube caught it first. But I wonder if the eyeball was able to implant something much like Morrow did to Slightly.  At the very least Nibs was deeply shaken by the whole experience.  I also wonder how Prodigy knows that adults don't adjust to the transition to being a hybrid. The company might have had a few unsuccessful prior experiments to come to this conclusion. 

and ,,,,,,,Enjoying the tunes at the end of each episode , ROCK ON 

It would be fun seeing how the alien made the stuff that held Hermit. It kinda looked liek vomit. Did the alien vomited some stuff? The music before the cut releasing the facehugger felt odd but it was a great scene.

That was the resin Xenomorphs excrete to make their hives and trap their hosts. I do believe they “spit it” up when cocooning hosts or building their hive webbing.

I thought David created that horror.David never made them. He only imitated. There's too much evidence in Prometheus and Alien that debunks David as their creator.

Agreed – it’s well known now that David merely played in the Engineer’s sandbox, he didn’t create the perfect organism, he tried to mimic it. There is still plenty of mystery left to the Xenomorph’s origins, which I’m thankful for. Praying someone someday picks up where Scott left off 🥲

I hope David is behind all these plans even he is not in the show. Also I wonder if all Aliens will be destroyed towards the end of ALIEN EARTH. In ALIENS, it seems all those corporations have no clues on the existence of these creatures (as mentioned during the debrief with Ripley).Too many storylines going in too many different directions. It's confusing. They need to tie them all together to that monster once and for all. Maybe then they can stop creating stupid movies about it. As far as corporations having no idea, didn't that creepy little guy send that family to that ship knowing full well what was on it. That room full of lawyers are a room full of liars. Also, the money man just said millions, not trillions like they keep saying in Alien Earth. These Alien movies and series need some consistency.

It's not hard to follow. You have one main time line and that goes like this

Prometheus, Alien Covenant, Alien, Alien Romulus, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection 

Alien Earth is a self contained storyline free of Scott's prequels.

The Alien vs Predator movies are non canonical. Scott doesn't like the idea of AVP i think mainly because he didn't like Predator. Those will never be canon. We'll see what Predator Badlands does. After 46 years Alien's timeline is still more straightforward than say Terminator and slasher series like Halloween and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. 

I thought David created that horror.

David never made them. He only imitated. There's too much evidence in Prometheus and Alien that debunks David as their creator. 

I caught the distant moon bit and am uncertain what to make of it. I honestly don't believe he means LV 426 as rerouting space truckers to acquire a specimen wouldn't make much sense after a research team full of professionals and at least one cyborg. Why send blue collar working class types? It might be too early making assumptions to what this means. I'm certain we'll probably get a flashback episode before the season is up. At this rate the emphasis on Alien Earth being it's own continuity is becoming more apparent. Prometheus and Covenant already don't matter and by extension Romulus won't happen. I can't even guarantee Earth will lead to Alien at this rate.

Noah Hawley is a fucking idiot.

It would be fun seeing how the alien made the stuff that held Hermit. It kinda looked liek vomit. Did the alien vomited some stuff? The music before the cut releasing the facehugger felt odd but it was a great scene.

Love SciFi, continuity  is definitely an issue for a number of reasons.  First, the original Alien was released in 1979 and is set in the year 2122.  Aliens was released in 1986 and was set in the year 2179.  Aliens was also written and directed by different people than Alien, and was less of a horror movie and more of an action movie.  Our  current TV show is set in 2120, so technically the events of Alien and Aliens haven't happened yet.  The prequels might be ignored completely for the purposes of this show (seems possible), but perhaps there is an intent to link up with Alien and maybe Aliens to "fix" some of the inconsistencies.  As to the dollar values back in 1986 millions of dollars was still a lot of money. The concept of a trillionaire is something fairly recent.  

I hope David is behind all these plans even he is not in the show. Also I wonder if all Aliens will be destroyed towards the end of ALIEN EARTH. In ALIENS, it seems all those corporations have no clues on the existence of these creatures (as mentioned during the debrief with Ripley).

Too many storylines going in too many different directions. It's confusing. They need to tie them all together to that monster once and for all. Maybe then they can stop creating stupid movies about it. As far as corporations having no idea, didn't that creepy little guy send that family to that ship knowing full well what was on it. That room full of lawyers are a room full of liars. Also, the money man just said millions, not trillions like they keep saying in Alien Earth. These Alien movies and series need some consistency.

I hope David is behind all these plans even he is not in the show. 

Also I wonder if all Aliens will be destroyed towards the end of ALIEN EARTH. In ALIENS, it seems all those corporations have no clues on the existence of these creatures (as mentioned during the debrief with Ripley).

You're welcome!

Kirsh and Morrow are the best characters so far.

It makes me sad that they let the orange cat die. Jonesy was a survivor and his throwback should have survived too. It's bad enough that they 'killed' a cat in the first place but if they 'had' to do it then they should have put two cats on the Maginot and had the other non-orange cat be the victim.

Thank you neomorph for sharing the Time article.   As much as I like the character David I never liked the concept that he created the xeno.   Apparently Noah Hawley also prefers an ancient alien.   I still believe the eggs were found on LV426, but how they got there and how the Maginot found them may be open questions.

I thought David created that horror.

Series creator Noah Hawley was not to keen on focusing on the backstory from the prequels. 

[Quote] "For me, and for a lot of people, this 'perfect life form'—as it was described in the first film—is the product of millions of years of evolution that created this creature that may have existed for a million years out there in space," he told KCRW. "The idea that, on some level, it was a bioweapon created half an hour ago, that’s just inherently less useful to me."

(source: https://time.com/7308896/alien-earth-series-timeline/) 

LV426 seems like the most likely source for the xeno eggs.  I don't know if they're using any of the Prometheus extra features material as part of the back story or not, but I recall reading that Peter Weyland intended to go on to LV426 if the mission to LV423 proves fruitless.  I also recall that Weyland had already intercepted the beacon signal from LV426 prior to the launch of Prometheus so clearly the company was interested in going there.  

Based on the muscle density of the xeno, and further detailed analysis of its biceps brachii as showed here 

I've come to the conclusion that the host was a character played by none other than Dwayne Johnson

Episode 3 is so good. Actually all 3 are good. It's such an amazing victory to continue to Alien saga with this TV show. I hope it will get at least 5 seasons.  :D

Btw I love Boy Kavalier's room. It has a 60s retro yet futuristic feel. 

I was not expecting much before I watched the movie, but was extremely pleased with Alien Romulus!  I thought the Offspring was awesome, but I am in fact, a long time Engineer-lover!!

The Offspring creeped me out so, the job was done well lol I too, loved the inclusion of Prometheus lore and Engineer DNA in the film’s final act. Hoping more of this gets fleshed out in the Romulus sequel. 🙏🏻