I will add and this is in regards to ALIEN V that when we look at some of Blomkamps Concepts and then some of the other Released Concepts showing MUTATED Specimens.

Then it maybe could be similar to some of the Speculation that some have had on here about the Destruction of Hadleys Hope and the Possibility of Radiation having a Effect on the Eggs on the Derelict.

Maybe in PART this is what Blomkamps idea was, and we have to Remember his Initial Idea would NOT see the return of Ripley, it was only after he talked to Miss Weaver about his Plans that she MAGICALLY got to be included (Ripley).

I even Presented the idea of doing this kind of take on a ALIENS Sequel..... with the Idea of calling it. ALIEN: GAMMA

Gamma as in the Greek Alphabet 3rd Letter as in a Parallel Alien 3 but also Gamma as in Radiation and WHAT kind of Effect that has on those Eggs ;)

So from a Story Telling POV then there are Avenues to bring about other ALIEN Stories that dont have to be about Ripley, but also where you can kind of Introduce a Xenomorph that Varies a Little from the Vanilla Version we have seen in the ALIEN Franchise and AVP.

@Blackwinter-witch

You have GONE and BLOWN UP both LV-223 and LV-426, oh Dear.....  well maybe you could like Clone someone who was Infected?  Oh thats been Done before LOL

But i think that its a Good Point to come from what you have DONE, because indeed and Especially Theatrically then you see People Failing to come up with a way to Introduce us to a Monstrous Threat without having to go to LV-426.

The Ending to ALIENS is a Good Example it was like OK so Hadleys Hope is Destroyed and so the Derelict and so WHERE can we go and Introduce the Xenomorph again... and they seem to RUN OUT of ideas....

Where as they SHOULD be asking a Simple Question.... what are the ODDS that the Derelict as the ONLY Ship the Space Jockey would have been using to Transport those Eggs?

And even in LIGHT of the Prequels (which Opens more Avenues) then i think REGARDLESS of WHEN/HOW/WHY does the Derelict get on LV-426.... i think that Whoever and However the Eggs had been Obtained/Created then we have to ASK........ is the Derelict the ONLY ONE?

And so if there is the Possibility of there being MORE Ships that had such Cargo then we can ASK.... Where did they GO?

The same is with LV-223 and the Black Goo, so the Engineers were going to go to Earth to Bombard us with Black Goo..... we can assume the Engineer in Prometheus was  Part of this Plan (or maybe he Prevented it).  But there seemed to be Quite a lot of Dead Engineers...  I think we cant just Assume they Planed to LOAD UP just the One Ship for Earth and Needing all those Engineers just hanging around before things went to POT!

Dr Shaw heads to another Complex and we know that they had taken another Juggernaught which had the Bio-Weapon as David used it on the Engineers or Planet 4.

So again this brings us to the Questions..

*How many Engineer Ships were on LV-223 and How many had been Loaded Up with the Bio-Weapon?

*Was the Preparations before the Outbreak 2000 Years ago the FIRST and ONLY time they had prepared and Planed to USE the Bio-Weapon?

*Is LV-223 the ONLY place they Store and Produce their Biological Warfare?

So indeed Blackwinter-witch there are other avenues to take us to Horrors that are Connected to the Xenomorph, Deacon and Neomorph etc... there is NO real Dead End ;)

The Easiest Way Forwards could be to GO TO a Place where another Ship with Eggs had been too, or another Ship with its Payload of Black Goo and then HOW LONG ago was this and WHAT kind of Horrors are in/on this Place ;)

@Hox

Thanks for the Screen Shots, i had Never Noticed the Goof of the appearing and Disappearing and Reappearing of the Sticky Notes on some of the VDU screens.

@Blackant

Thanks for Recognizing i do spend a lot of Time on here and i have seen ALIEN quite a lot ;)

Regarding the Elephantine Object i had indeed Never Noticed it before, NOW i may have seen it and it just maybe Never Stood Out as Significant.... its like a Nice Easter Egg

I think the Google Search you Conducted does show that its something that HAS-NOT came up a LOT... Which if it was merely a Mug with Weyland on it or something else it could be Passed By...    But as it is a Elephantine like Key Chain/Ring that is ON the VDU screen that Lambert uses and so the Navigation Screen if you would...

I think by Virtue that it appears to be a Bi-Pedal Elephantine Object then i think its ODD that it has not been Brought Up more on the Internet on sites or Youtube etc before...  in Posts like "did you catch the Space Jockey Figure on the VDU"

Because when i look at it then to me its like a Easter Egg with a NOD to the Space Jockey and something Worth a Debate as to WHY would they Put such a Easter Egg.

But indeed its something that has been either Missed, Overlooked by most of us.

I cant 100% say that its something we Merely Missed, i certainly Never Noticed it before, but i am sure there are other Little Things that i have Missed too as far as some Details, like i could NOT tell you what BRAND of Cigarettes were USED, i had noticed the Packets but Never paid attention to the Brand because to me (and as a None-Smoker) it Simply did-not seen Significant at all.

In regards to this being something that had Never Existed before, and Certainly as FAR as maybe because we have been Shifted into another Reality, or a Simulation... I know there are a lot of Theories and Conspiracies out there... I know that Stephen Hawkings had said ONCE we Discover the God Particle the Higgs Bosson then Potentially it could Change the Universe as we know it...

I think maybe trying to Play with Physics too much can have Risks... i know a Number of People had Concerns about what CERN are doing.

There are people i know who have some Memory of Events that i have NONE of and Vice Versa.   Even as FAR as talking about do you remember when we DID/SAW/HEARD about such a such and they be like NO!  and even Vice Versa.

Some Science would conclude there are Multiple Universes and Dimensions, like maybe Infinite Alternative Realities and well if we Accept this, then maybe some Experiments a CERN could certainly have the Potential to be Messing with stuff thats best left alone ;)

Some of the Mandela Effect things that are Shared are Interesting and some are Plain Funny.... but for some i do Distinctly Remember things that are Apparently NOT what they are...   Looney Toons is ONE example ;)

@Hox, 

Saw the gorilla missed the curtain changing color and the person in black leaving the game....very interesting use of visual psychology that illustrates the complexities of vision when viewing many complex movements.

This was a stationary object though....the size does matter obviously and the other sounds in conjunction with it...I still am going with another interpretation based on the people that have taken the time to go frame by frame of this film for decades....people such as BigDave....40 years is a long time to look at this type of media and be completely unaware of its while it is right in front of them....

I like how the narrator says about 50% of the people miss the gorilla....how about tens of millions with a stationary object??? Around the world? We should see standard deviations with this as well but we don't - not even close....to be fair though I am not taking certain variables into consideration....the majority of the people that watch this film have only viewed it a few times, they do not study the film as all of us do, and they watch the film and perhaps never come back to watch the film ever again...

Still we should see a larger number of random people closer to edge of the bell cure from the mean distribution even randomly getting this and its just not there.....a person like BigDave would be the control we are testing everything else against.....when people like him and me miss it than there is more to the story.

Let's continue shall we....BigDave has posted 11,702 posts with an average of 1000 words per post.....that is 11,700,000 words aproximately.

The novel "War and Peace" has 587,000 words.

BigDave has published the equivalent of 19.93 books with the equivalent of 1225 pages in these forums all about the movie franchise ALIEN......HOX HE NEVER MENTIONS THE LITTLE ELEPHANT FIGURE THAT HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF HIM FOR 40 YEARS ON KANE'S MONITOR - not one time!

Hox almost 20 books at 1225 pages of material about this subject with something right in front of him for 40 years..... 11,700,000 - ELEVEN MILLION WORDS.....and thing is HOX NONE OF YOU MENTION IT EITHER.....so now we are talking about another 100 Million words or more....and then all the other posts from the other websites....in other words we need another better explanation of why? 

And lets not forget about the tens of millions of people who saw this film around the planet in different languages....it just never existed until recently....BD would have said something about or many of the other thousands of people who visit these posts.

@dk, you’re right. The only reason I went to the trouble of grabbing and comparing a load of screenshots was because Alien is such a brilliant and iconic movie. Lesser movies would not be worth analysing.

Good directors - especially the likes of Ridley Scott - know where the typical viewer’s eye will travel, and the scene is framed accordingly. Studies have been done to track viewer’s eyeballs, showing where they are looking in a frame, and most humans behave similarly. So it’s not entirely surprising that minor details get missed. Continuity errors abound but they don’t generally affect the quality of a movie.

Here’s an interesting video demonstrating how perception works. Even if you’ve seen it before, it’s worth watching to the end.

Google search results......

Query, remember this database can pull a face out several hundred billion photos under a few micro seconds. Keep that in mind.....and it has been around for a decade and half. It comes after paper records too....

"alien movie elephant figure kane's monitor"

About 63 results (0.81 seconds) 

Showing results for alien movie elephant figure kane's monitor
Search instead for alien movie elphant figure kane's monitor

"alien movie elephant figurine kane's monitor"

About 23 results (0.95 seconds) 

"alien movie elephant kane's monitor"

About 70 results (0.87 seconds)

LETS WIDEN OUR QUANTUM HORIZONS A BIT RIGHT....

"alien movie 1979"

About 15,700,000 results (1.70 seconds) 

Googles massive parallel computer system had to collate / parse that one for a moment!

Remember we are looking at statistical probabilities (real quantum deviations) here - correct....not necessarily continuity errors that never existed.....

@Hox, thank you for the in-depth analysis of that scene...and everyone else's comments too...this is still spooky to me though and for good reason.

"This is not about something we all lost and then found....it is about something that was right in front of all of us for 40 years and we never all saw it not one time - all of us, tens of millions of people saw this film and it never comes up one time until now - this was meant to be seen or was it until now? It was right there in front of all of us for 40 years."

What has me spooked the most is that BigDave could easily write a few books about this film in explicit detail and just until recently, days ago, this was right in front of him for over 40 years and he never notices it until now.

I agree with everyone...yes there are continuity errors in this film and most films.....it is the nature of this error about this specific detail right in front of people like BigDave that is of concearn...not that he misses it because it is right in front of him for over 40 years....for the very real fact it was not there and that is the reason he never introduces it or discusses it ever.

"BigDave do not doubt your own memory of the film...you would have noticed an ELEPHANT HANGING FROM THE CORNER OF KANE'S MONITOR - The thing is you don't? and it was right in front of you for 40 years and me too....No matter how strange the theory, it has to be true if you can rule everything else out that is even remotely plausible, because there is no other rational explanation for anything else."

The quantum game is afoot as they say and we have culprit!!! A real one - the person that makes the video about this scene being subliminal forshadowing....is inconsequential in any tangible or meaningful way. Should this not be a continuity error, and that is plausible then something with a lot of power changed all of this just recently.....something that works on an order and magnitude faster than computers even from a few hundred years from now.

There is that scene in the matrix....with the cat....this reminds me of that...in every explicit detail....what did we all just really see when the universe split?/or multi-universe?...a bit too much to go into for these purposes....but a many worlds interpretation or split universe. It is too soon to say this is just a continuity error.

The mathematical odds of it being a continuity error are similar to this....for 40 years there is a small statue/figurine you place on your own desk. For 40 years you look at it every day and yet somehow are unable to notice it even though it is right there in front of you staring you in the face.....then one day somebody says oh look how interesting why did you put that figurine on your desk? What does it that figurine mean to you?.....and you look at them and say I do not recall ever seeing that small figurine there before ever!.....and all of this is even stranger than that....this one is statistically different and for good reasons....millions of people saw this film around the world....and it was never there for them either - until just recently.

Look up Copenhagen and Everett quantum interpretations.

What’s the difference between Copenhagen and Everett?

https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=11202

What is interesting is the math says both of these realities in quantum physics happen, are happening right now and is the real prevailing reality.

New beautiful photos and a spoilers free review in this link:

https://www.ign.com/articles/raised-by-wolves-review-hbo-max-spoiler-free

 Hollywood Reporter:

<<Alien prequels, but if later episodes were to introduce a xenomorph or facehugger, it could surely be a companion to Prometheus and Alien: Covenant (with just a bit of Kingdom of Heaven, thanks to those pesky Templar-esque Mithraics). Scott is transfixed by the show's production landscape and its hostile mixture of mountains and barren desert, captured with its own humanity-averse, washed-out color scheme.>>

<<Mother and Father could absolutely be white-blooded siblings to the late, great Ian Holm's Ash in an exploration of what happens when artificial intelligence evolves beyond its design and takes on an almost divine condescension toward humanity. Mother and Father's reverence for their human Creator — just one of many points of on-the-nose irony relating to these condemners of religious faith — is at least something worth exploring even if after six episodes I'm not sure Guzikowski has anything more profound to say than, "Fundamentalism comes in several varieties, all scary.">>

I usually don't get caught up in what actors are in a film or show. I just want it to be good. It's a decent preview but is a bit spoilerish.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/decider.com/2020/08/27/raised-by-wolves-hbo-max-review/amp/

Lots of spoilers in this link:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ew.com/tv/tv-reviews/raised-by-wolves-hbo-max-review/%3famp=true

dk

Perfect organism....

I wanted to leave it somewhat nebulous in regards to it's connections with Prometheus and the other works in the Canon Alienverse, and I did enjoy taking things into a new direction.

The ALIEN Universe is huge, there's all manner of stories, plots, plans, schemes and people busy with their lives and agendas...and technology that increasingly allows more and more 'godlike' machinations by people. :)

I intended Perfect Organism as a self-contained short work, but while it IS that, it doesn't close any doors about future things connected to it...should ideas pop into my head. :)

Back to Perfect Organism. The Prometheus/Covenant influences are obvious but not overly so- and you took it in a different direction. There is enough information and dialogue for it to be a self contained short or it could serve as a scene to a larger work. Having a short attention span, I will go with the former.

In ALIEN: Manticore one of the main characters is not Human, and has something of a pretty tragic past that would be tough for anyone to cope against, be they Chimeran or not.
It's touched on in the book, but this gives that anecdote some depth.

This Vignette is the start of the backstory of Selinaehra Jhaat-Soong Du'Maur set when her entire personal universe changed abruptly and frighteningly.

New Vignette

Download link from my Gdrive:

Olarkus download PDF

 lazy writers unwilling to roll up their sleeves and put some hard creative work in.

Preaching to the choir. Do something new and different but don't ride on the coat tails of a franchise to cheapen it to make a few bucks while pissing on and diluting its greatness. Off shoots are fine but don't rewrite history. 

Take a risk. Ridley Scott did and look at his legacy now.

Blackwinter-witch On the other hand, chewing up your works like a pack of hungry wolves because there is an error shows that people are paying attention. It might even be a good idea to drop a deliberate error in there just to see if anyone catches it ;)

It's exactly this kind of Laboratory Dissection that motivates me to keep things in my works as solid as humanly possible in respect to their own Continuity and canon. I'm certain I do not always succeed, but I do make the effort.

Because I KNOW you guys will slice things up thin and run them under a microscope. :D

Good points about the monitor and sticky notes and such changing...never would have noticed those little details. 

dk

I'm right there with you. The entire idea of writing things off as a dream or such...well, it's basically a huge middle finger to the audience and fans.

Dallas
Lost

Others have also played with it too...and it always annoys people, turns them off a franchise.

It's a cheap way to 'reset' things outside of time travel--another seriously over-used chestnut, and it's the recourse of lazy writers unwilling to roll up their sleeves and put some hard creative work in.

EG: In ALIEN: Manticore, the characters wiped out any trace of the LV-426 Derelict and everything in The Valley Of The Engineers on LV-223.
This does create some problems for me in doing the sequel, I admit, but lots of hard thinking and I found ways around the problems that are Plausible and fit into things seamlessly. 

If I ever cheap-out and disrespect my audience using time-travel or Dream 'resets', I hope someone has the good sense to check under my bed for a bodysnatcher pod. :D

It looks like what hox is showing are continuity errors which are fairly common in movies if we look closely enough.

Here is the scene. FFW to 1:50 . The figure isn't there, and then it is. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95xBXq8MR0

To illustrate my point, here are some errors from The Thing 1982 that I never noticed until an alert viewer pointed them out. It's still a great movie though. The video is about 4 minutes and some change:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ1xJ5P2X4o

1 - Here’s the first time we see a console.

2- Here’s another. Except it’s probably the first one dressed up with some additional props.

3 - Here it is again, lighting up.

4 - Hey, some navigation. Note the elephant toy and the mistake about the Nostromo’s capacity.

5 - Another peek. The elephant toy is a bit more visible.

6 - The elephant is still there (blurred), but the handwritten note has disappeared, and the monitor now has a piece of tape

7 - same shot

8 - Here’s Ash. He’s got some sticky notes on his monitor.

9 - Lambert is trying to find out where we are. She likes sticky notes, too.

10 - A closer view.

11 - Almost found our location. Hey, the elephant is back.

12 - Ash figures out the geology. He’s very tidy, having ripped off his sticky notes from the monitor.

Oh I knew that both the scenes of Kane's.....VDU correction....not ASH's VDU KANE'S.....don't know why I said ASH....both Kane's VDU are different that is why I posted them....

I am sticking with my story about the Elephantine figurine never really being in there but every aspect of every frame has been discussed in great detail....for decades at a time. 

40 years is a long time to miss something right in front of all of us....it is something that all of us do not recall because it just appeared in all the sources of this content....every aspect of it.......somehow what could not be replaced was our collective memory of it....this is the hypothesis....BigDave do not doubt your own memory of the film...you would have noticed an ELEPHANT HANGING FROM THE CORNER OF KANE'S MONITOR - The thing is you don't? and it was right in front of you for 40 years and me too....No matter how strange the theory, it has to be true if you can rule everything else out that is even remotely plausible, because there is no other rational explanation for anything else.

This is not about something we all lost and then found....it is about something that was right in front of all of us for 40 years and we never all saw it not one time - all of us, tens of millions of people saw this film and it never comes up one time until now - this was meant to be seen or was it until now? It was right there in front of all of us for 40 years.

So it was never there to being with originally but now it is there in every copy of every movie now though...in every picture on the internet....When the developers of the video game recreated the Nostromo they left that out? Because when they created the video game it was not there either until now.....there are discrepancies and the biggest one is that we can see it now for some reason as before for over the past 40 years, despite it being right in front of all of us we never see it?????? NOT ONCE DOES IT EVER COME UP FOR DECADES UNTIL RECENTLY.

BigDave we argued in this forum about the way Bishop held a knife in Aliens....the way a character was holding something for days.....but this never came up not one time by thousands of people.....and it was there in front of us for 40 years.....

It was not there that is why it never came up....it appeared recently....and that is also why we can go oh how did I miss that for so long....it was right there in front of me the entire time????

It was never there originally until now.....and we should try to figure out why.

"I NEVER gave even an instant's thought to the little dangly figurine we see by Kane's console"

Me too i Never paid any Attention to that Detail, as far as the Figure being Elephantine."

For 40 years none of us saw this....not ever not once, why is that?

I bet a lot of you would not be able to recall it under hypnosis either....this is all stranger than you think....I bet a lot of you could recall more detail under hypnosis about a lot of things in this movie that would prove this aspect of the film is a rather serious anomaly that we cannot have a knee jerk reaction to and just say well that is something I never saw before.....something we just missed.

A better question to ask yourselves now is are there any other things, objects in this film you think you may not know are there but they are there and were always there. 

I am confident I could go frame by frame in this movie and identify every aspect it. With a degree of certainty of why it's there, why the people who made this movie put it there, and there reasons for it......the small elephantine figurine does not fit in that analysis....until now just a few days ago...it just appeared recently....and no one has a rational explanation why millions of people missed it?

Ergo it was never there to begin with....and yet we are to believe it was right there in front of all of us for 40 years....

I have low expectations, but we shall see. I am fine with leaving the Quadrilogy alone. If it is between movies or after Resurrection, that might be ok although Ripley should be a minor presence if she appears at all even if it's just her voice. If it is based off of dreams or hypersleep, I will hard pass.

BigDave If memory serves, I thought FOX didn't like Scott's ideas and wanted them in the Alienverse. Especially when he seemed a little annoyed with Covenant and he wanted to move away from the Xenomorph. I believe he said, "If they want Aliens, I'll give them f@cking aliens."

I'll keep an open mind, and in time we'll see what we see...but I really hope it's not just Ripley dreaming in hypersleep.

BigDave

Good point! Anytime you add a new dynamic into even a tiny ecosystem or biological cycle, you'll get all kinds of variables leading eventually to wholly unexpected changes.

With something like this, fun to watch and study--from orbit. lol

Ok i have just watched ALIEN again well the First 20 Min and what we have SHOWN in the Opening Sequence is TWO Different VDU

The One you are have Marked Out from the Game is the One that ASH uses, which is different to the ONE which Lambert uses Later

There are some Differences to BOTH of the VDU stations.

11 Min into ALIEN we come to see Lambert at her Station and we again see the Elephantine Thingy...   I do indeed Never Recall it before but i maybe MISSED it before because its maybe a Scene where Nothing that Important Happens so i dont pick on some Details.

I could maybe have been there all along and simply MISSED.

OR maybe something is up ;)

I think if anything is done correctly you could do just about anything in a movie and it could be outstanding....I am not worried about retcon for anything in this franchise....depending on what they want to produce and show us in the next installment.....I think would all be very happy that it were all dream....then again if they do not get it right then it could detrimental to the franchise again causing more viewers to disconnect from it entirely.

I never thought it was possible that toys from a quarter century ago could be turned into what are the transformer films....and I respect a lot of Michael Bays work in those films...lots of interesting special effects....I like only some of those films not all of them....and they definitely work on many levels.....if they can do this for the new Alien I think audiences will welcome it with open arms.

LOL @BigDave,

I wish it were that simple....but none of us remember it as well as the people who programmed that video game....

What is even more interesting....is finding someone that should absolutely know that it should be there......and no one from any of these posts in year after year ever mentioned it once........

Here is what is creepy ok.....when I mentioned the knife mistake/plot defect/movie blooper....everyone instantly remembered that.....

Its the fact that we all have a shared memory of not seeing this that is of worry to me....there should be one person in the group at least with a vague recall of it being there and there are none.....and I know you have watched the film as have I frame by frame and its not in there for us both....

For example....ponder this.....Ash is studying the remains of the face hugger....and then Ripley appears right behind him....this was a plot defect because you are supposed to hear the med bay door slide back into the recess but you don't and you know exactly what I am talking about because you have seen the movie so many times.....however, you said it yourself....never in all my viewings where there is something PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED ON ASH'S MONITOR DO YOU EVER RECALL IT ONCE EVER BEING THERE.....this is something that we all did not miss...it was never there to being with....

It is so strange in fact....it would be as if someone came into the chat one day and said the Alien sits down and writes a letter you know while the other crew members are looking for it.....and we all know this is just impossible....just like its would be impossible to be watching this movie for 40 years and all of us not notice something hanging right there on ASH'S monitor....

I do not believe in the Mandela Effect....although I believe something is at work here with this...it is a very extraordinary contradiction....and it is worth investigating further.

If we are going to do a ALIEN V then it has to be Chronologically after (or Parallel) Alien Resurrection and by that we DONT have to Follow Ripley 8 but i did have 2 Ideas for how this could be done.

I also have 2 Ideas that dont deal with Ripley 8 (One not too much.. as in neither wont have to have Miss Weaver)

@xenofanlv426

This indeed is Legit...  The Alien V Project

In Space No One Can Hear you Dream!

So it seems the Idea is that some of the Franchise will just be a DREAM!

But what is more Interesting is the Quote "All that we see or seem, is but a dream within a dream"

This could imply either....

That the Sequels (maybe Prequels) to ALIEN are Cryo-Dreams by Ripley while she is on the Narcissus

Or that even the EVENTS of ALIEN are also Ripleys Dreams!   

The Great Fear for me is if this is Released and is Canon then it could make the Franchise be SIMPLY about RIPLEY and her Nightmares!

Its Very Comic Book/Video Game!

Its kind of Neat..... maybe some of the Extras could do with Trimming Off and it would look better ;)

I think the PLOT about making a Hybrid to Control seems Interesting, i dont see much Human Hybridization here but then i Guess it looks better than the New Born LOL

But its Interesting to see that Mankind has managed to Control a Xenomorph.... but in Good Old Alien Fashion i think we can Guarantee this things GETS out of CONTROL... and maybe it makes the Queen his Bitch!  And we get a New Colony thats more of a Threat ;)

@BlackAnt

Maybe its the Mandela Effect ;)

I watched the Opening Scene Last Night both from the Movie on my Cable Network On Demand and One of my DVD's and the Elephantine Key Chain thing is there. (in Both).

It could be just something we can MISS like how Many Movies have GOOFS that you dont Notice until they are Pointed Out and so you go and Watch the Scene again and then Notice them for the First Time ;)

Or someone is Playing with the Similation/Matrix ;)

As i had the other Month watched a Movie with someone in my Home and said we SAW this in the Cinema before, and they was like NO we Never... i have NOT seen it... i was like we DEFO DID!

But then i have also seen a Movie and said i ant seen this before while others said YES we had together, and also there are some Memories i have in regards to Events with some People who do-not even Remember, or have Slightly Different version of the same Event ;)

So maybe the Mandela Effect is going on and we can blame CERN!

Okay, I'm liking this new addition to the mythos. :D

This piece of music tends to 'fit'

Sad, energetic, promising....everything between an ancient man and his daughter.

Blade Runner 2049 Closing titles

xenofanlv426

I'm thinking Ripley needs to be retired, and that Walter Hill has worn out his welcome with regards to the ALIEN universe.

Hill is good with action films, but he just doesn't 'get' what ALIEN is about.

Blomkamp needs to stay the hell OUT of the ALIEN universe, same with Cameron.

Of course. What does make some sense of confusion is how Sigourney Weaver was with Walter Hill's concept. She was spot on excited for Blomkamps and totally on board, then with Hill, she says i don't know, maybe Ripley deserves a rest. Unless however, its all a red herring.

We will see what we see when we see it.

Thank-you very much, all of you!!!  (HUG) :D

(Excuse errors--broken-now-patched-together glasses so my typing is 'hesitant')

This little Vignette is an idea I have had rolling around in my head since the scene between David and Holloway in PROMETHEUS, then got built-up when I saw the opening scene of ALIEN: Covenant. I think the inluences from those films are pretty evident. lol

I wanted to do things Differently, there's no need for another Tyrell, Wallace or Weyland...the 'gods'. ;)

A little piece of background info: The father's name is Rothmahnn, first name as-yet to be determined. 

Rothmahnn Biokinetics 

'Building A Better Future'

Have any of you ever considered that the small elephant figure was never in the original film ever.

But some how the small elephant figurine dangling from Kane's monitor is now there.....What ever did this did not change everything.

I can tell you all this.......I have watched Alien at least 100 times maybe more...just watched it again early morning Aug 27, 2020 and do not recall seeing an elephant dangling from the monitor....I saw the output, thought about the helmet, saw the pack of cigarettes, watched as the camera pans around the room, the camera fades into the hyper-sleep chamber scene.....BUT NO ELEPHANT ever and I have been watching the film for over 40 years.

I know a good part of the dialog verbatim, obviously recall of every scene in chronological order.....but there was never any elephant in the original movie until now. 

@BigDave,

I would also like to add that you just stated that you never saw the elephant figure as described until this video was posted? You know every frame of the movie, in concise detail, perhaps better than the people who made the film....since you never saw it either until now it was never in the original film we all saw until just recently.

Now of course that would mean everyone's memories and the entirety of all physical aspects of this anomaly - has been altered, added somehow???

How is that possible? There are movie mistakes that are very had to see because they happen in tenths of a second, the blink of an eye.....this was never in front of all of us for the past 40 years and no one ever talked about it or noticed it until now.....in fact I find very little evidence of the inclusion of it in another locations on the web....and of course we all know very well that RS and many of the set designers go into great detail about how they incorporated various aspects of the each and every thing they put into the production...I have investigated those videos for years as well as everyone else and BigDave.....there was never any elephant figurine there.....it is something that we would have noticed after 40 years.....I read the original Alan Dean Foster Book Alien so I am very familiar that the Space Jokey sitting in the chair is refereed to an elephant like creature that is fossilized. 

I have studied Kane's terminal where he sat for several years.....in fact one day a few months back I wanted to know what brand of cigarettes he was smoking...and of course looking them up on the internet you come to the conclusion they were made by the prop department. No there was no elephant figurine dangling from the Kane's monitor in any of those subsequent viewings or study of the film....I also studied where and when the WY logo appears in the film as well....and no elephant figurine in any of those viewings either.

Four decades is a long time for a lot of people to watch a film and not see this very important detail......also I would like to add NO ONE EVER DISCUSSED IT ONCE IN ALL THE YEARS WE EVER TALKED ABOUT THIS FILM IN ANY OF THESE POSTS....Why is that?

Why does this elephant figure appear just now....recently....because it was never in the original film; however, for some reason, no matter how strange the reality of that irrational explanation is, it is the only explanation that fits the truth of the causality of this contradiction.

As an experiment........we should all participate.....BigDave you start a separate post call the title "What jewelry did the crew of the Nostromo wear in Alien?"

Just as an experiment lets all go to that post and list every item and compare what we think they wore from memory only....however, do not watch the film, do not look online.....just go into the post and list what think each movie character wore....it could be anything from a ring, bracelet, earrings, ect.....it is experiment time......pick a day we all post.....then after the submissions to the post we should all watch the film separately and then compare what is in the post.

You all may find this of interest.

This is Alien Isolation the game.....they recreated the Nostromo in really good detail. 

NO ELEPHANT HANGING FROM THE CORNER OF KANE'S MONITOR....but they took the time to digitally render every detail of the emergency helmets, every detail of each characters hair, all the different colored  buttons, sizes and shapes of other objects.....ect.

Not photoshopped....and NO ELEPHANT FIGURINE.

This pic of Kane's terminal was taken from this website... https://typesetinthefuture.com/2014/12/01/alien/

Lot's of very important facts at that website.

Beautiful! I think all parents should read this.