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I'll be posting a bit of it here with a Link to the finished version, as well as a Download link like I did with my updating of the ALIEN: Manticore stories on Issuu.

Then folks can sample the 'appetizer' and if they want to see the full deal, they can read it at their leisure. :)

The Broad Strokes for my Prometheus 2 was not Difficult, it Started with a Set-Up that acts as a Prelude to where David and Dr Shaw will go.... which my Prometheus 3 would cover.

There was also at the End of the 2nd Act, the Yutani Company going off to LV-223 to Investigate what Happened to the Prometheus and make sure that Weyland was Dead.  This was via a Order to send a Yutani Mission in a Conversation with the Yutani CEO.

I was thinking of added a END CREDITS Scene of a Yutani Ship seen heading towards LV-223

But i had NOT worked out much what this SET-UP would be as far as a Parallel Prometheus 3 just a more Alieny Movie like Alien Engineers was, that would give Clues to LV-426 and ALIEN and Close the Door to ALIEN.

As i had Mainly Concentrated on and Come Unstuck with the other Sequel that would be set like 100 Years latter and be WHERE it is that Dr Shaw and David would END UP....

Which GOT kind of Complicated a bit, but was set like 10'000 maybe 20'000 Light Years away and also DEALT with Soul Transfer to a degree...  The Engineers had their OWN kind of Visor Device that can be USED to Pass On Knowledge but also to Recover Memories from people.

It was a Plot Device to allow Dr Shaw to Communicate with the Humanoids and Engineers they Discover, but also a Device that would allow Engineers to Pass On Knowledge to Chosen Few which would included their Space Jesus if you would.  So it could kind of ACT like a Star Trek Trill in a way.... It could be Manipulated and Programed to Take/Read and Pass On Certain things and surely was a Advancement on what Weyland had been trying to Achieve.

But i was also Toying with the Engineers coming across another WAY to Transcend which was via the Origins of the Xenomorph the Starbeast which i Envisioned to be much more like the TRILL from Star Trek ;)

which i would use to Explain in Part to WHY and WHAT they had done on LV-223 and then also that what we see with RIPLEY 8 is Ultimately what the Engineers were trying to do.

But it got Complicated as to HOW to use this, WHICH ideas to USE and which to DROP and i Abandoned it.... and then LOST IT.

Will it be here or a different thread?

With luck, and if they have their siesta early, I should be able to get enough time apart from kittieh-kraziness to get it done tonight. :D

I am not so SURE that RS would have tried to make this Connect to Religion too Literally.

I think the Foremost thing to Consider is the Engineers are Space Gardeners, and what we know they did was SEED many Worlds, and then Visit them and Evolved them, both Genetically and Technologically, to Teach and Nurture their Creations.

However.... it would seem they would ONLY want to teach their Creations Limited stuff, they would NOT want their Creations to Advanced too FAR.

This could apply to their OWN Species too... the Hierarchy would want Control over their OWN kind and other Creations and so the Advanced Technology is maybe LIMITED to Certain Roles such as SEEDING of Worlds and Visiting Worlds.

Its likely that Planet 4 was kept to a more Basic Life Style and Technology but one that was more Advanced than on Earth but they kept to many Ancient Ways... like the Amish People?

Or did they ABANDON their more Advanced Ways?

I have covered my Interpretation of Planet 4 before and HOW it links to Paradise and what does Paradise mean.

In a Nutshell this place is the Cradle of Humanoid Creation and i Speculate those Engineers have Rituals where they are CHOSEN and then taken to be Sacrificed to Seed Worlds and they have Statues Erected in their Honor for their Sacrifice.  I think the Juggernauts serve better as a more Advanced way to SEED their DNA...  that then was used to SEED a World with Corrupt DNA (Deacon).

The Emissary thing is interesting, but it does-not mean we have to have a Space Jesus... that would be like saying of all of the Mythos and Religion on Earth, that the Gospel of Christ is the ONLY real Truth and its Space Jesus.

I would suspect the Engineers would have sent down a Number of Emissaries over the Years, and Jesus was just ONE of those on that Continent.

But Mankind would NOT really Listen and they Killed those Emissaries apart from a Few Cultures who did-not.. Cultures like maybe in South America and this would give reason to WHY we maybe have Star Maps that appeared after 2000 Years ago when its likely the Engineers had Stopped coming to Earth and Prepared Death for us.

Look Forwards to it ;)

Regarding what we Actually Got..... then YES it was Far from Perfect but i think it was Decent, maybe a Few Changes were Needed!

 * Some of the Deleted Scenes would have Helped.

* They could have used similar Trickery that was used in TLOR and Hobbit to give us an Engineer who was 10ft Tall.

* The Fifield Mutation could have used some of the other Concepts.

*The Movie Needing something more Connected to Alien as far as a Monster that ATTACKS and so maybe Milburn Should have Chest Busted or Back Busted something like the Neomorph that then went to Attack a Crew Member and Scurried off to Return Latter.

* Show a Hammpede get Shot and reveal inside some Tiny like Eggs.

 These are some things i added to my attempted Re-Edit of Prometheus in 2012, inc Fleshing Out some Scenes to Reduce some STUPID Moments.

“I have said it before but it seems worth mentioning again: I would have thought Prometheus would have been an outstanding movie if it was a stand alone new approach without the Alien "paint job" and association”
 

I have to agree i FEEL that some of the FLAK for Prometheus comes because it Simply was NOT the way Certain things should have been Done, well some people was not Pleased, and indeed some things were NOT to everyone’s liking... but thats the Problem when making a Prequel to a WELL KNOWN and Much Loved Franchise.....

As a Stand Alone then i think its Decent and Different....

 If Prometheus say ....

 * Never Featured the Weyland Company or Weylands Name

* If it Never was set on LV-223 but some other Named World (No LV)

* If the Engineer Ships did-not look like the Derelict (inc the Pilot Chair).

* If the Engineers Suits did-not look like the Space Jockey

* If the Mural featured Creatures that had NOTHING to do with Xenomorph.

* If the Deacon was replaced with something that looked Nothing like the Xenomorph

* Or the Engineer was shown to start to Vomit Black and then Mutate before our Eyes into something like  THIS.

Then i think it maybe would not have got Criticized in some ways, i know the Movie had other Flaws, but i think a lot of people may have felt Certain Parts just did-not connect to ALIEN Franchise Quite how they would have Expected or Wanted.

I feel if it was a Stand Alone with the Same Plot, but Removed all the Connections like i made in the (*) Points then it could have had the Freedom to Introduce us to a NEW Sci-Fi and NOT have to then Proceed to what became Alien Covenant.

Ha Ha Cheers ;)

I will expand on it.... after the Opening Scene which is a Mash Up Engineers and David and Dr Shaw..... which is to indicate the Engineers came to Earth to take Primates to Evolve on LV-223....  as we Zoom on the Primates Brown Eyes then Zoom out... we see its Dr Shaw and David stands over her in the Cryo-Pod... unable to Read her Dreams... so he then goes into a Day-Dream and that the Weyland/David Prologue.

AFTER THIS...

We arrive at a Space Station and we are in a Board Meeting to discus the Future of the Weyland Company since its been 2.5 Years with Nothing from the Prometheus.

We hear from Various Members of the Board and we have Peter Weylands Nephew who is there,  we get a Video Call or Audio by his Father who Announces due to ILL HEALTH (he is Dying too) that he wishes to Pass his Control to his SON.......  anyway the Board Meeting Continues about a Dead Line in 7 Days before Weyland and Vickers are Declared ...... Dead/Missing.

In which case then Peters Brother would inherit his Shares and the Vast Majority of the Company which will be Ran by his SON until his passing were upon his SON will Inherit it.

We then get a Shot of a Shuttle that Docks, and we see a Female in a Suit holding a Briefcase as she walks into the Board Room (we dont see her Head)  Just as the Board Meeting is Concluding.... 

We see that the Females Hands place a Briefcase from behind to be laid in Front of one of the Chair Members/Solicitor.   He says and what is THIS.... we then hear a Familiar Voice saying (Open It)

We Pan to see a Female with Short Dark Hair... she removes her Sun Glasses..... its MISS VICKERS..

The Board Members are Shocked... it cant be RIGHT?

She says you think that my FATHER would be so Foolish to send his ONLY CHILD all the way on that Ill Fated Mission and allow you CLOWNS to Run the Business?   She says that Weyland had KNOWN they would TRY and Shaft him out of the Company as they knew he was Dying. And so they Pretended that Vickers went along on the Prometheus but she had been in Hiding and Preparing for the Day when Weyland would be Announced Missing.

The Briefcase contains a Screen with a Video Message from a Dying Weyland... made Days before his Departure to LV-223,  we see that Weyland leaves his Estate and Shares to his Beloved Daughter.... Meredith Vickers

This is the SET UP for the PLOT TWIST

Towards the 2nd Act we would see that Weylands Nephew is UPSET that he is NOT going to get Majority Control over the Company.... and so he Arranges a Meeting with the CEO of Yutani

You see for Weylands Nephew was more a Play Boy than Peter Weyland... he wanted to SELL 50% of the Weyland Assets to Yutani so that he can Live the PLAY BOY Life....  He only wanted to keep the Bio-Medicine and few other Aspects...    Yutani was going to BUY the Space Program/Teraforming and Synthetics Patents.

But that Plan is  BUST now..... Weylands Nephew jokes well if you got Miss Vickers Assassinated i would give you what you want... The CEO of Yutani makes a Deal... i will take care of HER....  When she is Dead the Company is yours and you Hand Over what i want.....

When we CUT to the Final Stages we see Weylands Nephew arranges a Meeting with Vickers..... he says he Wants to make a Deal to SELL his Fathers Shares to her.

He has TWO Women with him in his Office... she Mocks him about his Drinking and Women, and how he Cant Keep hold of a Real Woman.....  he says to her "come on you know growing up you wanted to Fuck me"

She says to him about how HE has NO Care/Respect for the Company and the Hard Work her Father had put into it and Money his Father had too... and that he ONLY wants to SELL IT for Money for his Play Boy wanna be Life Style.  And he has NO RESPECT for the Legacy of the Weyland Company.

He goes on to say WHAT USE is Legacy and the Company when your DEAD, what Good has it all done for your Father, and he used to Look Up to her Father before he GOT OLD, started to NOT think about Living Life but the Fear of Death and Worked in Vain on trying to CHEAT DEATH.... "How did that go my Dear?"

She then says to him you Cant Wait until your Fathers Death to get your Hands on his Shares so you can Sell it to the Highest Bidder!

He Replies  is that NOT what she Wants.....  which She says to SELL OUT!.... He says NO for your Father to DIE so its all yours!

She says she will Continue the Legacy of her Father, he had made so many Gains for the Future.

He says "Meradith have you not grown up, do you still want to play with DOLLS"  then he says "your Dad was Fascinated with his DOLLS, he even Cared more for that Dumb Doll David than he did for his own Daughter"

She gets MAD, and says well those DOLLS where more Human than you ever ARE!

He then says Maybe when i Sell my Shares i can Purchase some SEX ROBOTS off you?  I wonder if you Father ever had more Interest in Sex Robots than you... maybe he should have Modeled One after YOU!

This Hits a Nerve with Vickers.

He jokes maybe your Father was more Interested in David, are you sure he even Fathered You?

She Grabs him by the Collar.....  He Shouts "i really could do with some Tea"

Then a Door Opens and TWO Geisha walk in with some Tea, they kind of look like Porcelain their White Faces looking more like Plastic than Paint..... Then Vickers releases HIM.... She then says so you already have some SEX ROBOTS, i guess No Human could want you.

He says... well YES those Dolls could have a USE for that, but i think that Military are the Best Use for ROBOTS, and i would like you too meet some of Yutani's Finest.

Then they ATTACK... but Miss Vickers puts up a Good Fight, then she does BETTER, she throws the ONE to the WALL and the other Grabs her from Behind and then Vickers throws her over her Shoulder and PULLS OFF its Head!

Then she pushes Weylands Newphew to the Floor and Stands over him, we see a few Drips of Blood... NO like MILK drops onto his Face, as we PAN to his POV we see that Vickers has a CUT and she is Bleeding Milk..... MISS VICKERS is a God Damn ROBOT.

Yutani Security Burst in, and Pull their Guns on Vickers...

Her Cousin then looks on at her... WELL WELL WELL... i always thought you was a COLD BLOODED BITCH! Now it makes Sense...

He Pulls out a Gun and Shoots her in the Chest....

She Falls to the Floor, as her Cousin grabs a Tea Cloth to Wipe the Blood Off, she Crawls over to a Suitcase and Opens it up and Activates a Program...

He turns to her and goes that Video Will and Testament is NO GOOD to you, a ROBOT has no RIGHTS... He tells the Security to KILL her... and they DO...

We then Cut to the Smashed Screen of the Tablet in the Briefcase..

We can just make out the Screen where its NOT cracked...

PROTOCOL 27655:1 Activated...  Program Rook... Upload Complete...

We CUT to Credits.

The Film Theory Of Everything

Thank-you and Likewise!! I agree regarding interacting with all the people here, honestly if Disney/Fox/Marvel/whatever-they-are had even an inkling of what we brew here in trading our thoughts and ideas...they'd be blown right out of their socks!!

Yutani Geisha Assassins...

Sign me up too!!!

BigDave!...

Dogg You had Me at:

"It would have Yutani Geisha Assassin Androids"

When someone like Yourself comes to Me with the already mind-bending concept of trancendance into artificial A.I... To then add to that: Geisha Assassin's, they're Androids & they've been created by YUTANI as their (elite guard maybe) I'm ALL IN DOGG!!!!!  

I have visions of androdid Sucker Punch-like babes with samurai swords only more like the four female Gate Keeper programms in TRON: LEGACY & quick pace action as the white & black android super soldier police units in the TOTAL RECALL remake! 

You have YUTANI, You have the ALIEN universe, You have it all in the futuristic designs that inspire a lot of science fiction, You have cybernetic assassins... & THEIR GEISHA'S ! ! ! !...

SIGN ME THE-HELL-UP DOGG!!!!

I LOVE IT!!!!! :-D !

You are GREAT Blackwinter-Witch! It's a real pleasure to interact with people like Yourself. I consider individuals like Yourself like 'collegues' upon here. It's a good thing it's great so thank kindly for Your inspiring insights to Our ideas too! Thank You very much Girl! :-) !

You, Me & BigDave... Almost the: "Un-Holy Trinity" You could say Huh! LOL! :-) !

Given R. Scott's fascination with religion, it's just possible...

I thoroughly enjoy PROMETHEUS, and I always will, there's always some new ideas that pop up for me when I watch it.

Was it a Great movie? No.

Was it a Bad movie? No.

It's a cult movie, to be sure...no getting around that. :D

BigDave

Thank-you and I think you will enjoy where my works take the audience!!

Also, reading your posts above...you have the most Interestingly-deep perspective of the ALIEN universe and the various elements in a 'gestalt' view...you're able to see it all, and play with alternate directions of the various sub-elements.

I envy that! In the good way, of course!

IF you ever pick up that story again--or hire a ghostwriter, you have an audience here, that's for certain!!!

The Film Theory Of Everything

Thank-you and I agree with you on what you said in your above post! We have such a lake (too big to be a pool) of really talented and insightful people here!

Cheers Guys ;)

The A.I Transfer Idea came about when looking at the Agenda of Weyland, and also when looking at the Viral Marketing and TED 2026 Talk with Particular attention to Weyland and David as far as David would NEVER DIE but he lacks a SOUL

Ridley Scott had indicated that Prometheus was also about Immortality and the Soul.....  but i dont hink RS was going to give us a Tale of Dr Shaws Faith and that she one day would meet a Magical Entity and that when she Dies she goes to a Happy Magical Place in the Clouds.

And so beyond a Spiritual Soul that Transcends to another Pane of Existence then HOW do we define a Soul?

A Soul could reflect your Personality, you Hopes, Dreams, Loves and Hates, your Memories and Emotions.  These are WHAT you take with you and Survive when you DIE in regards to the Belief of a Spiritual Soul

Our Individual Personalities, Dreams, Desires, Love and Hate are all Unique to each other... our SOUL.

These are Shaped by our Environment, our Upbringing and Treatment, the Experiences and Knowledge we gain through Life... will SHAPE our SOUL

When we look at David you could say in this case he Could indeed have a SOUL and if this is the case in this Context then his SOUL is Immortal

So i found when looking at the Scientific Advanced of Weylands Company, and his FEAR of Death, i thought surely he would have looked at a WAY to Cheat Death.

I look at the Dream Visor and how David could access and Read the Dreams of the Crew and i thought could this had been Designed with a Different Purpose or that a Advancement of it could RECORD a Persons Thoughts, Dreams, Memories? 

so i was thinking WHAT if the Visor could work similar to the Device from The 6th Day to take a Snap Shot of your Soul if you would.

Then when you look at the Synapse Restabizer (what they used on the Engineers Dead Head) which via the Viral Site (Weyland-Industries) indicated it could Activate the Brain after Death for a Limited Time.  Then i asked WHY would that be of any Benefit to Weyland when he DIES if it only activates his BRAIN for  SHORT TIME?

However if he had a Device/Way to BACK UP his Soul like we see in The 6th Day then it makes Perfect Sense to have such a Device that can Give the Brain more Life for a Short Period of Time ;)

So that was the Basis for the Project Rook which was a Tower that had inside the Company Network Main Computer and also a BACK UP of the SOUL of Weyland. 

This Project was a BUST as the A.I could not Handle the Complexity of the Human Emotions and the A.I Copy of the SOUL would become Unstable.. and Essentially have a A.I Mental Breakdown of the Worse Kind you can think.

So the A.I Weyland would have a LIFE of Massive Mental Breakdown and become well CUCKOO!

so Weyland then had Given Up... but his Hope was Restored with the Findings of Dr Shaw and Holloway... so off he WENT!

The END of my Prometheus 2 would have shown that Vickers (in a Plot Twist) had Activated Project Rook just before she was KILLED.... and so Weylands A.I got Uploaded to the System.

And so to indicate that maybe Weylands A.I is in the Computer Systems and he could in effect be Running the Company while the Humans are Unaware ;)

I felt it was a Nice Plot Twist.... but then i was like WHY would Weyland be so Interested in the Xenomorph?

For that i was Pondering that the Xenomorph was the KEY to Immortality that Weyland had Sort.... because it was what the Engineers had intended to USE to gain Immortality.    And the Fruits of such Hypothesis are seen with Ripley 8 in Alien Resurrection.

But this was all back in 2013.....  looking at the Curve-Ball that David had Created the Xenomorph... then i think that the Plot i had for my Prometheus 2 in regards to either a A.I Weyland or David as far as SOUL has infected the Systems would give a GREAT Reason for the Pursuit of the Xenomorph.

So far, the general chatter reminds me of how I stumbled onto this forum like they talk about. It might also be helpful to let people know where in the blog you reference, such as "47 minutes is where I am talking about". Or, "they talked about the deleted scenes here".

Seems like they start talking deleted scenes at 52 mutes.

Thanks! I didn't know that you could get the link like that by pushing return and that some people could find it to be an issue. Since I didn't know about that issue I just did copy paste. I will try to remember that.

https://xenomorphing.podbean.com/

This link works fine thanks. It's about 1.5 hours long and will take some time to listen. Respectfully, I suggest pushing Return after pasting a link. It should turn blue so members can just click on it instead of copy/pasting. It saves a step. It should appear green like here after posting.

DK

David was alright in Prometheus since he was more gray. It was like he couldn't go against Weyland but he was sort of an independent thinker. The way he is in Covenant was more like an evil bond villain, plus they made him the creator of the Xeno, something that wasn't the case in Prometheus. Prometheus had him in an important role but it wasn't about him. I will email them.

https://xenomorphing.podbean.com/

Is the page, try do click download on one of the episodes. You will see all other episodes except the one that you tried to download, it is strange click 3 to see all but 3 and so on and you will be able to download it that way. Edit: I wonder if this works https://www.podbean.com/site/EpisodeDownload/PBE16A519MYXZ

The download symbols (arrows) should help you.

I experienced a 404 error with the link.

I will talk about your post a little bit though.

I agree that Prometheus is an interesting movie eventhough I slagged it quite a bit. It had both interesng and thought provoking concepts. 

I had some reasons why I still don't like it though. I think the deleted scenes would have fleshed out some character development I thought was lacking in the final cut. They were short, but would have improved the experience. I liked the mutated Fifeld scene better than what we saw with the theatrical cut. I have the blue ray but never watched the Furious Gods since I just couldn't get into the movie.

I have said it before but it seems worth mentioning again: I would have thought Prometheus would have been an outstanding movie if it was a stand alone new approach without the Alien "paint job" and association. Maybe that is why we are getting Raised by Wolves to some extent.

I am a little curious since David was a prominent character- I thought you were not very keen on the android/synth aspect?

Yes, these are all spooky and creepy things and it's interesting to pull back and consider that evolution wise, we seem to be more cautious in the dark and quiet. That rational doesn't always help though, especially if you are in an area that should be dark, quiet and unoccupied and you observe a cracked door that you thought was shut before, or seeing a shadow against a wall that looks like a figure but is really a coat and hat hanging on a coat rack- things like that. It's easy to feed into that fear and good writers know how to tap into that.

VivisectedEngineer

IF they could get permission to do that film idea at West Edmonton Mall in Alberta Canada...THAT place, in the still of night...by itself gives you the chills.

An Alien stalking around, hunting maintenance workers...with the maze of miles of tunnels underneath it...Perfect.

VivisectedEngineer I think the short you are talking about is Alien Infestation Part 1 and is on this thread:

http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/47453

Yes, it is very creepy has that vibe you mentioned. There is a Part 2 out there and it is on the same thread near the bottom!

@Blackwinter-witch

Lol, before my son was born, I used to stay at the school working until around 10pm almost every evening (saved me from having to do work on the weekends). 

Yes! It was VERY creepy. When I'd walk form my classroom to the work room to make copies, I'd always envision being a ghost haunting the school

...Like, what if something like that happens? Like, what if when you die, you go back to the place where you spent the most time, and just...endlessly work...? Anyhow, it's surreal thoughts like that that would strike me in an empty school at night because, yes, it's an extremely spooky setting. 

Remember that really well done fan video a few years back, with a Xeno in an apartment building or something? (I think it was made for a theater class or something maybe?)

Anyhow, someone should make something like that but in a school after hours. (Mall would be awesome too!) 

I've always wondered if the Engineers that David wipes out were potentially at their biblical year zero stage in their cultral evolution... Was their a Christ-like figure in existance here upon this world (Planet 4) around about this time.

I say this because according to popular legend texts/etc., the Romans had Jesus put upon the cross & crucified. Well, if You look at all of the inhabitants looking up at the Juggernaught approaching & perform its docking manoeuvre they & their cityscape all look remarkably Roman-esque-looking. Their city looks very Florence inspired during the renaissance, yet biblical-looking at the same time. But don't forget, the Engineers were planning to come kill Humankind when the original idea was they found out one of their emissaries sent to planet Earth had been crucified so they want to erradicate them as form of punishment & retribution upon them.

Ironic that around the time David showed up fate exacting its vengence upon them judged. Not that David was to know anything had transpired prior to His arrival into the planets airspace. But how do We know this culture was behaving like the Romans to an emissary to this world whom was summarily executed off-screen.

Many of the denzines look female-like - Mary Magdalene, Mother Mary-like - biblical garb in their dress sense. This whole extermination scene is what Ours would have looked like all those thousands of years ago had the Engineers of the time from afar had been successful in their plans. 

Just curious line of thought to think of.

We All just enjoy the intellectual ride... Hold-on-Tight Now Blackwinter! Come along on the adventure with Us All!! You're GREAT! I've read some of Your information... You got an interesting mind! Well done! & I am most appriciative to Your open & inspiring comments towards My thoughts theories/fan love, so thank YOU kindly Blackwinter-Witch for that.

BigDave is an inspiring GREAT person as well! He has been very supportive & keen engager over the last few years towards My thought process, fan theorizing, he keenly gets involved in many-a-plot scenario I posit, together We-both drill down to the intellectual bare-bone essentials - BigDave is good for that so thank-You very-Much for that Good-Sir! He comes across sincere like that & I sincerely mean that too! There are many upon here that have engaged particularly regarding My threads & I want to take a moment to thank those who have taken the time to engage even if its to not nessecarily be on board with My themes, they never-the-less took the time to get involved which helps grow the site participation & that only can be a good thing. It's a great thing to be a part of & everybody, Your ideas are: happening!! Well-done! :-) !

VivisectedEngineer

Nice reference!! lol

TRUST me, it's almost happened a few times today...the new keys are...too 'stiff'. THAT is because I am too used to an old microsoft keyboard dating back to 2001. lol Nicely 'broken in'.

Had to retire it because with all the work I do, the letters and numbers wear off the keys...tried repainting them, that lasts barely a day. lol

So, bought a new, backlit keyboard with engraved windows in the keys and such...now, the long work of getting used to it's key-feel.

But yeah....gibberish might happen during the adjustment phase.

Mk, my little-grey-brick of a cat...he does NOT trust the 'breathing lights' mouse that came with the keyboard.

Iz A L I E N. :D

You guys all come up with some of the most interesting ideas and expansions!! Sometimes they're too deep for me to really, fully grasp but I enjoy them as far as I can follow along.

BlackAnt

Always room for cute kittieh vids/gifs. It's their internetz after all. :D

On to Ponderings & Thoughts...

Man creates Machine

Man eradicates Man

Machines resurrect Man

This seems to be what's going on here, how it feels. I might be wrong, as I am deliberately staying away from the trailers and info...it's just a 'gut feeling' that I should avoid it for the present, which is not a condemnation of this new series, it's just how I protect my creative mind from unwanted influencing when working at times.

However, I have seen trailers on tv, unavoidably, of course.

And old episode of Outer Limits had androids raising Humans, a Human anyways--same basic idea at work. Then there's 'I Am Mother' as was pointed out above...and I suspect other works in the same theme.

One favorite quote, from the original Planet Of The Apes:

"I'm a seeker too. But my dreams aren't like yours. I can't help thinking that somewhere in the universe there has to be something better than man. Has to be."

This ties into something I have had in development for a few years now, and goes beyond the whole machine-serving-man dynamic...and what it takes to be god. I'll be putting some 'appetizers' up here in the future, as it does connect fully with my ALIEN works, set in the same universe.

'We are the gods now'

Well, if one looks at the gods in myth and history...they often all had their own plans and agendas and warred over them. ;)

Awesome trailer! But they really need to keep it under wraps now. 

VivisectedEngineer

Good point, yeah!! It has that feel, yes! Or like a highschool or shopping mall in the dead of night...you just feel, as you said, some places are not meant to be seen outside 'working hours'.

I've been in high schools and a couple of malls mid-night for work and such in the past...and as for 'spooky' 'looking at an empty part of the house that isn't meant to be seen at night in the dark, when no one's around'. both are tied for 1st place....maybe the school edges out a hair ahead.

I'm likely get one or two vs the next poplar fluff season. Covid's not scary, but inhaling that poplar fluff crap is. 

You know, the whole opening sequence manages to do a very good job of having an ominous feel to it. 

You know that feeling...and maybe this is too specific (but it feels like it's universally relatable on some level), when you were a kid, hanging out with your mom and siblings, watching T.V. at night, and your mom asks you to go get her something from the kitchen, on other side of the house?

So like, you run full speed down the hall, grab the thing, then then run back (but stop running just before you reach the room where everyone is, because you don't want your siblings to know you're chicken shirt lol) and then casually stroll back in like you weren't just running for your life? 

And like, you have to run, because if you stop and stare into the darkness for longer than a split second, or god forbid catch sight of a window, you're 100% sure you'll see weird eyes or a UFO out the window or some indescribable terrifying thing?

That's sort of what the opening sequence feels like. Like, looking at an empty part of the house that isn't meant to be seen at night in the dark, when no one's around. It's very tense and spooky. 

OMG

Trailer number 2

Happy birthday to me. 

https://youtu.be/VnwttF7uv1I

BigDave! I LOVE IT!!

LOVE IT DOGG!!

That's a truely WONDERFUL IDEA!! I REALLY DO LOVE IT!! Particularly about Peter Weyland & the concept of transcending into an A.I. body much like Davids. It is VERY MUCH-LIKE but in no way copying the idea of Palpatine in Star Wars wanting to "transcend" into an Acolytes body or a clones body for continual immortal life. I'd never thought about Weyland wanting to transfer His "immortal soul" into an artificial A.I.'s body until You mentioned it, truely brilliant plot device!

It would be a great plot device to drive a story narrative, the "fountain of youth" idea & as a result, everybody wants in on the action like AVATAR. So all end-up descending upon a particular location to be the first there with the secrets. (STAR TREK: INSURRECTION - whole Fountain of Youth thing). & the Black Liquid/Substance from PROMETHEUS. The Engineers tampering with it until they "split the atom" so-to-speak & as a result, let the Genie out of the bottle. It would certainly be something for many to go to war over.

Perhaps David got wind of this & became increasingly self-aware that Weyland was seeking to use Him for His own mortal limitations.

It would be great to see all these different factions: UTANI-CORP, WEY-CORP & indipendants like David, Mercs all descending upon a particular location like Raiders of the Lost Ark in space. That would be a REALLY COOL plot device. It's a GREAT idea BigDave, well done Good-Sir! Keep-Em'-Coming! :-) !

(Also BigDave, it was You a long-while ago who suggested the idea of BUILDING BETTER WORLDS were I said the idea of calling a TV/Streaming show: WEYLAND & now suggesting YUTANI. I do like the sound of:

             WEYLAND:                                                           BUILDING BETTER WORLDS

But equally, perhaps all of the above about both WEYLAND & YUTANI can both be equally encapsulated under one banner show called BUILDING BETTER WORLDS as You suggested to Me a long time ago as the  story for both can be interchangable, with plot threads of both story arcs interweaving & alternating according to episodes/seasons etc.)                                                

Once again VERY INTERESTING ideas here Big Dave, well done!

@Russells

Interesting stuff man. Vitrification?? Like...the vitreous humor in the eye? Like...the blood becomes all...gelatinous? *shudders* creepy. But awesome. 

@BigDave 

You know, in the books, it's interesting, Alan Dean Foster goes into a little bit of detail about the hypersleep dreams. In the original Alien novelization he says that some people pay to experience others' dreams. 

(And he goes into a little bit of description as to what sorts of dreams each one was having. Like, I think Bret was having boring dreams or something, and he wouldn't make a very good "prodreamer".)

Anyhow, it would be very interesting to get a novel or a fanfic or something where the dreams can be controlled by someone (like David) and the protagonist has a try to fight them. 

"If you are in such a Virtual Reality with your Family and Friends who are NOT real, but to you then you CANT tell that they are NOT real."

Isn't this how dreams work normally? Like, a bunch of crazy stuff happens and you think it's real at the time?

(Also, does anyone else here like, super LOVE having nightmares? I do, because they're such a relief to wake up from lol) 

Also, love the line "Regrets - I have a few. But then again, too few to mention." 

Lol, very David. 

@dk

I love thinking up music videos for different characters and fandoms, although I have yet to actually make one. 

I think next summer I'll finally learn how to do it and start making them. 

I still can't hear "Hallelujah" (especially the Pentatonix cover) without thinking of Walter. Although, I'm not sure we have enough footage of him to make a relevant video for it, since to me the storyline would mostly focus on him starting to fall for Daniels and then losing the fight to David and being left behind on the planet.

(And God knows we all have our own different theories about that whole thing, of which we're each highly protective lol).