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Characters in comic books are usually depicted as more different and stronger than the ones depicted in a film, because of its easier to take a pencil and a paper and draw rather than spend millions on a 2-hour film. Hulk for example, in the films he fought opponents of similar size and lifted some larger objects. In the comics, however, if I recall correctly, he once destroyed a planet with a single punch (and an entire universe with a handclap).

Engineers in this comics were shown to have tremendous strenght, despite some size differences. Probably because they were genetically engineered for military purposes. Much like Replicants from blade runner and Neo-sapiens from exo-squad.

Gorillas for example, while standing still are 5'7" tall(little shorter than average humans), but they are like 10 times stronger than humans.

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I find it interesting the significance of the 7 Elders in Prometheus and what could be 7 Head Statues in the Hall of Heads, many Ancient Mythos seem to be around 12, 7 and 8 Divine higher beings.

Sumerian Mythos we have the 7 Higher Gods of Creation, Norse there are 8 and Biblical there are 7 Archangels but its key to remember before HIS Fall Lucifer would have made that 8 of Gods Higher Angel Order.

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I am not sure if one shall explain everything about the Xeno, not knowing is a part of what is interesting. The thing is what do we need to know and why? When you explain too much then it is not interesting anymore.

Do you mean the floating head? I thought that was lame.

Nah, let the deacon be it seemed that it was there to give some Xeno connection.

That is totally fine, AC is just OK but nothing special. A movie does not work when the characters are underdeveloped which is my biggest problem with it and that goes for Prometheus also.

It certainly is about something very tied into the Engineers Very Ancient History, these beings are no doubt very significant to their entire culture which appears to be very Ancient and Very Ritualistic where the importance of Sacrifice seems to be key.

We have to wonder/question if those Head Statues are the Ancient Ancestry of the Engineers who come from that Planet?  Or did those Founders come from another place?  Its implied this place is the Engineer Home-world, but then could it be the only place?  could it be only just the FIRST

We can speculate in 500 years, 1000 years, 5000 years we could be among the Stars, and Mankind could settle down and Colonize many Worlds... But EARTH would be our Origin but by no means the only Place we find Human Civilization once we master the Stars as we see late in the Aliens Franchise, or like in Star Trek etc.

IF this Planet is the Origin of the Engineers, the Question is this those Head Statues place of Origin too? If it is then we surely see the Engineers have left this place to go to other worlds, and Earth is likely not the ONLY place they have visited and interacted with over History.    If those Wise Beings in the Hall of Heads are NOT from Planet 4, this does not mean the Engineers in Prometheus are not from Planet 4, they could have came from there regardless.

There has to be Reason/Purpose why those Engineers leave Planet 4 and Arrive back, and then we have to ask if there is another RACE/Being above those Engineers, who created them, or had interacted with them and USE them for some Purpose...   Is there a Hierarchy above them, or was their and did those Engineers eventually Learn to Use/Steal another Races Technology to then Explore the Galaxy?

This is the HUGE Scope that Prometheus set up, were we can clearly see the Xenomorph is put a part of this, who large a part who knows... it could be they are just as relevant as Mankind Viruses to use in Biological Warfare, or Mankinds Discovery and Evolution of Black Powder Weapons that leads us to our Primary Weapon of Defense in the Military.

It sadly appeared while Prometheus opened up the Door to this HUGE Scope, Alien Covenant appears to have began to shut the door on this.

"I mean did that need to be in the movie but not an explanation to what Engineers are? Or what happened to the Deacon and the Weyland trip in general from the company's perspective? Or the City they found on an alien planets in a distant system that looks remarkably like ancient earth civilizations!?"

These are all interesting things that fans of Prometheus were looking to find out, but these things did not directly give us the Xenomorph Origin, or bring Xenomorphs back in some kind of Horror/Action kind of way that a Alien/Alien 3 and Aliens/Alien R had done....  It appeared FOX felt bringing the Xenomorph back and tying it literally towards Alien in a Modern Time-Frame was the way to go.

"what happened to the Deacon"

We may never know... the Comics Fire and Stone basically showed it had gone to the Temple/Cave Complex and simply Merged with the Wall like the Mural and became part of the Mountain and showed the Outpost/Mound was actually living...  erm!

The Deacon for all intensive Purposes was a link to the Xenomorph, it was basically "you know these Engineers are the Space Jockey, and that stuff they are experimenting/creating in those URNS under certain series of Events Creates a Human/Xeno Hybrid Face Huger, that created a Human/Xeno type Chest Buster" thus it was to show us that the Xenomorph was connected to the LV-223 Outpost and those Eggs on the Derelict are a result connected to this place either prior to the Outbreak or after.  So the DEACON was a Plot Device.

"Weyland trip in general from the company's perspective"

This again is a Big Question, one i thought would be addressed or set up for future, what becomes of Weyland Company with its TWO main CEO's missing?  When/Why does the Rival Yutani Company Merge and then why would NO-ONE investigate the Prometheus Mission?  We have to wonder if anything had been done, if not then certainly after Davids Olive Branch (Advent Viral) to the Company we then have to wonder if they would explore LV-223 and i am sure the Companies Agenda regarding the Xenomorph will become more clear down the line (if we ever get to see any sequels).

"looks remarkably like ancient earth civilizations!?"

This is a interesting one, and one that some fans felt disappointed by... i think many fans maybe felt we should see a Truly HR Giger Atheistic.   There is so much with the Engineers that its very open to where/when and how that HR Giger Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic comes about..  The Elders Scene in Prometheus those Engineers lacked it, the Pebble Ship lacked it.   Ancient Mankind had lacked any Bio-Mechanical Architecture, even as far as Thousands of Years ago.

So did those Engineers only achieve this Technology way after the Sacrificial Scene, did they choose to not Share this with Mankind?

Planet 4 we see is like Ancient Civilization there is Technology in Places but only Places where it seems necessary, it appears these beings LIVE by the Ancient Rituals and Codes that the Sacrificial Engineers Scene Reflected.   They had some Technology, but mainly for Lighting and Heating and so they chose to live a almost AMISH people Life, by that they Shun Technology for the most part.

We have to ask WHY, is it because those above them those who lay the Rules for their Civilization Forbid it,  was there a event where they decided to Shun Technology and Revert back to a Ancient Ways.  Yet we still see they have a Hanger for Engineer Juggernauts, they even welcome the Ships back and so there is a whole Explanation here...   ONE that i think many fans of Prometheus would like to have Answered at some point...  One where i FEEL the clues are there however.

I think Alien Covenant was a real Disappointment...

I think FOX certainly expected the movie to have done better, they looked at what some fans had to say about Prometheus, decided that following Dr Shaw and David and interacting with the Engineers may not be the movie General Fans would like, and doing this kind of movie would be hard to do, because of HOW we address those 10 Questions i posed.

FOX had taken on-board how Prometheus was not very Alieny, and as a Prequel it was not giving enough clues to the Xenomorph Origin, and maybe lacked any Alien Monsters killing Humans, which the Franchise was always based on, which was the Peril of Humans vs Aliens, this did not mean we had to see Xenomorphs, its just Prometheus maybe did not please all because the only Threat Humanity Faced was the WHAT IF the Black Goo got to Earth, and the Crew was mainly just Maimed by a Zombie FIFIELD and a Angry ENGINEER  and so Milburns Hammerpede Encounter did not feel as rewarding or interesting as a Face Hugger Attack, because there was no Follow Up/Pay Off.   And Dr Shaw's C-Section was just not quite as effective as a Chest Buster (but then how can you make Chest Busting effective once its been done over and over).

I think the Problem AC had was..

*Prometheus fans wanted to see where RS was going with the Engineers and their whole part in the Franchise and finding out what the Black Goo is about and LV-223. And explore the Philosophical/Creation themes.

*Alien Fans felt they would like to know more about HOW this Black Goo would link to the Xenomorph and maybe hopping that AC would bring back some of that Horror and Haunted House Feel of ALIEN

*Aliens Fans, felt the movie would bring back Xenomorph and maybe hint at the creation, but also bring in some Action that Prometheus lacked, and leave them pondering what Created/Laid those Eggs in the Trailer.

Alien Covenant was Marketing very Heavy, RS and FOX pushed that the movie would Scare People, would introduce the Xenomorph and something different (Neomorphs) so that got the Alien and Aliens fans interested and expecting something... but RS also mentioned about David/AI and Engineers so this may have concerned some Fans who was not keen on Prometheus, and it may have given some hope to those Prometheus fans who with the ALIEN Prefix were concerned this would be steering away from Prometheus.

The movie got Over-Hyped and Over Marketed, i mean look at the ONE Poster that had NOTHING to do with the Movie.

so the Movie Release Came, and i think some Fans were a bit apprehensive...  But the WHOLE Release Schedule for AC was Flawed and so it did quite WELL on Premier Weekend etc... but the movie was not released State Side until far to long after it made its World Wide Premier... by the time the USA Domestic Box Office was to get to see it,  the reports and reviews came in, which showed that Fans felt the movie was NOT what they was expecting due to the Marketing for the Movie.

This may have affected some USA Fans from going to see the Movie, but it still had a OK response, but then after the USA Premier, then the movie had more Criticism and this passed on and on and i feel just turned a lot of people off going to see the Movie.  I also feel AC lacked that Repeat Viewing for many Fans.

Thats what i feel had happened with Alien Covenant...  It simply could not Please Every Kind of Fan... but it Marketed itself to being able to Please Every Fan, and to a degree it tried to by giving each kind of Fan a little of what they hoped but no where near enough to please them and certainly not as much as the Build Up and Marketing had done.

The David Creates the Xenomorph and some of his Character Quirks certainly seem to be something that had disappointed and divided most Fans, be it Alien Fans, Aliens Fans or Prometheus.

@Thoughts_Dreams Yeah! a book a comic whatever anything! I mean it just starts to look like a movie made for one (RS) at a certain point. Like how is it that an Alien Homeworld for example is not an interesting avenue to explore? Why cant they open an Alien film with no dialogue just beautiful shots of Xeno's on a planet they're taken over and then Engineers flying in and starting over or something. I think that would be pretty awesome and world building. You could then take it from there, adding little bits of information within a horror typical people in space in trouble story would be full bodied and engaging to more people.

I like mystery but they insert mystery into lame stuff! TBH I think it's the horror Jump scare bullshit that they cant get away from. The scene in Covenant when Rosenthal gets attacked...I mean the whole thing there with her head and the obvious set up and then the jump scare...I mean did that need to be in the movie but not an explanation to what Engineers are? Or what happened to the Deacon and the Weyland trip in general from the company's perspective? Or the City they found on an alien planets in a distant system that looks remarkably like ancient earth civilizations!? That wasn't something they felt needed to be in the movie? I know I sound like i hate the movie, I don't, but I can't hide my disappointment and at least we got a movie...

The hall of heads was kind of interesting from an aesthetic point of view. I wonder what the history behind those heads is? Very likely it is about religion in some way.

They remind me of the heads on Easter Island by the way. Coincidence? Maybe

I have never meant any Malice in the few times i refer to Fan Boy, i hope i never came across in that manner, in deed Star Wars has Fanboys, i am a Star Wars Fanboy to a degree too.

By Fan-Boy i mean the way a Core Fan Base idolizes and loves a Franchise for its CORE and Successful themes.  And for Alien, this does touch upon the Saga that Proceeded after Alien, the Xenomorphs, the Queen and Ripley are all attributing Core Elements that allowed the Franchise to GROW and so if it was not for the Franchise Fans who really liked the Action of ALIENS and how the Franchise took us down the route of this being a Ripley Saga, then we have to wonder would the Franchise had became as BIG as it did?   I am not so sure....   And so Camerons Aliens Elevated the Franchise to a Level that would be watchable to more people in General, and helped to make the Xenomorph and Ripley a more Household Name.

With Star Wars, it was about the Anakin/Skywalkers and the FORCE the Dark vs Light, and indeed Star Wars Fanboys if you would do take disappointment when the SUCCESSFUL Elements that made the Franchise what it was, end up being brushed aside, or changed to much. Trying to Change Star Wars to something different and stepping away from the SKYWALKERS Ending and steering away from the Light and Dark of the Force and Presenting a GREY are things that disappoint the fans, some cant accept the removal of Characters from the old Franchise, and its when TRYING something NEW that we end up with Problems...   You could ponder the Star Wars Universe is more than the FORCE, the Skywalkers and then there was a time before the Rise of the Empire/New Order a time before the Clone/Storm Troopers... But removing all of these things  and exploring something else, may not sit well with every fan.

And with the Alien Franchise we have the same Problems, RS can try and Expand the Universe to be more than Ripley, Queens and Xenomorphs.... but removing them all, for some fans is simply making a Movie that does not fit within ALIEN, i think a FACT that FOX in Hindsight had wondered was a mistake, in that removing and distancing from what the ALIEN Franchise was a about was a mistake.

If we went back in time and DELETED Camerons ALIENS and we never had a Alien Sequel for 20 years and then we attempted another Alien movie, then looking at Alien, only TWO things would come to mind.. The Xenomorph Eggs and the Space Jockey...     But we had Aliens and it opened the Franchise to Millions, and NO-ONE ever looked at the Space Jockey in all that time.... which is what the Prequels had attempted to do, and in Hindsight the Tone Down of Xenomorph Connection when exploring the Space Jockeys was something that differentiated the Prequels too much from the ALIEN Franchise.

Without Camerons Aliens, and the Fanboys so to speak, we have to wonder what the Franchise would be? It could have spawned sequels that made the Franchise Far worse.... or it could have spawned none and ALIEN would have been seen as a Cult Movie like THE THING but never recognized as a Franchise that is well known by many Millions.  So the Fan Boys are the Reasons for why the Franchise had been so successful we cant deny that.

@MonsterZero I never thought of it that way. 

Leave that to some comic that those that really want to know what happened can read. I do not really care what went down between David and Shaw during that time. My attitude to this is like move on.

"I wish there was someone at the movie studio that could convince him to loosen his creative control when it comes to story."

Exactly this, otherwise it will be even more about David, which sucks.

@Svanya Yeah exactly articles like this! Ho many Prometheus 2/Covenant plots have been written and scrapped at this point?

Thanks @BigDave I'm confused as to why Covenant box office was such a derailer for the series. The movie did make a profit did it not? Maybe I'm just naive to the industry but it all this uncertainty about whether they SHOULD make another one just doesnt make sense to me when they didnt lose money, maybe just didn't make as much as they wanted... I guess they think then the next one would lose them money but still just seems preemptive. 

Yeah I remember all that talk from way back about the engineers abilities to change climate and such and how those abilities or technologies could explain away alot of the events that transpire in the Alien Universe. Definitely lost in RS's rantings... His quotes, some of the more infuriating ones you quoted @Bigdave, are always so nonsensical it makes me think he does it on purpose? Or is he just confused, it seems like a paradox to me that the man with the supposed keys to the universe, and the grand plan, can't give a basic and clear idea what he's got in mind, must be part of the game you have to play to keep people interested, but for fans like us It really messes with your head! :)

@bigdave, yeah I would love to hear what you believe transpired in those years! Paint me a picture so I can pretend they made prometheus 2. I'm dying to have "answers" to those questions you listed.

The way I see it, the story being told here is that we are a version of many humanoid beings the engineers seeded across the galaxy as part of some spiritual and religious belief they have about they're place in the universe. I love the hierarchy being presented with this story, the wolves, the sheep, etc.  

Not sure RS really has three additional stories to tell after the prequel trilogy, seeing as its been like pulling teeth with him just getting these initial three out... I wish there was someone at the movie studio that could convince him to loosen his creative control when it comes to story. I think we could see a consistantly good set of movies if he were just responsible for visuals. Get someone in there that will tell a better story, adn then bring RS in to make it look awesome.

As far as Technology....

I think indeed those Engineers Pressure Suits would allow them quite some Protection, i think Prometheus offered us a Realistic Look into this, the shot from the Weapon used against the Engineer, did some damage but this was Minor, it would be like getting shot by a Metal BB Gun while wearing clothing and so you would feel it, and it may have broken the skin a little but would be far from a Wound that would stop you in your tracks.

I feel again the Comic Books took this too far, and basically made the Engineers Suits like Tougher than a Tank,  i also find that ONE Engineer could lay waste to Horde of Xenomorphs that easy, like a Human dealing with Cat/Small Dog Sized Animals, a little unlikely.

As far as Weaponry goes, for such a Advanced Ancient Race the Engineers would not doubt in their History had created Weapons, and no Doubt Weapons beyond our Technological and our Imagination, so Advanced that the Predators Plasma Caster would seem redundant

Alien Engineers was interesting with the Gauntlets that would fire like Pulses of Invisible Energy at their opponents and would actually be similar to like Star Wars FORCE powers.

I missed the Topic when it was first posted....

I have to say i think the Comics kind of took the Engineers to Far, made them more like Super Man from the Planet Krypton but hey maybe thats why they was FELLED so easy on their own Home-world LOL

I think we need to go back to Alien: Engineers and then look at WHAT True Scale is all about, in Alien Engineers our Engineers were supposed to be 15ft Tall to Match the Approximate Space Jockey size in Alien. By the time of Lindeloffs Paradise the idea was prior to Shooting that these are a 9-10ft tall Race of beings.

This image shows exactly what a 15ft and 10ft Engineer would be like compared to a Human, now lets imagine if the idea was to be these sizes and lets say these Engineers are Humanoid and to Scale as far as Strength.

Then a 15ft Engineer coming into to confrontation with a Typical Man would be like a Typical Man attempting to toss around/fight a 15  Month Old Infant (which would be simple) a 10ft Engineer compared to a Man would be like a Man VS a 4.5 Year old Boy.

So from either Scale we can see a Engineer of 10-15ft would be able to push around a Human as easy as a Human would a Toddler.  In the Comics however the Scale is off the Engineers here appear to be like 8-9ft Tall which would be like a Human VS a 6-7 Year old.

So INDEED this could show the Strength of the Engineers, but even if we look at a 8-9ft Tall Engineer we can also look at them being Stronger Per Scale if we consider these beings have Genetically Engineered themselves and so are not AVERAGE Engineers like we see in Alien Covenant, but Super Engineered Solider Class.

Looking at this, then indeed a 10-15ft Engineer would deal with a Xenomorph with not much trouble and would certainly Man-Handle a Predator, but i am not sure they would defeat a Xenomorph Queen, not if we stick to Scale... 

If we however consider they are also Genetically Engineered as Stronger then a 15ft Engineer vs Xenomorph Queen would be quite a Fight, but a Engineered Super Being that is 8-9ft tall would not really stand much of a chance.

Unless we go the Super Hero Comic Book routes where our Engineers are like Super Man and the like.

Its easy to spout "fanboy" here as some type of negative but would one say the same about a franchise like Star Wars? I think not because the masses would put that person in their place. Why can't we just respect ALL FANS of  the " A L I E N " films? Different strokes for different folks but don't blame ANY fans for the rat feces/masterpiece that gets flung on the silver screen. Studio heads and directors get payed the big bucks to filter the noise and the praise alike to produce a quality product.

Fingers crossed something more like this rather than just a Giant Generic Angry Polar Bear ;)

BigDave Who knows. All I know is that Dan Simmons is a sci-fi and horror writer who won and was nominated for multiple Hugo, Locust, Nebula and Arthur C. Clarke awards. That to me is a big advantage over writers like Joseph Logan.

You're welcome, Chris.

Seems interesting.... it would be interesting to see what Ridley Scott and Production have in store for the Demon Bear ;)  I hope something a bit Alien.

Certainly is a place of Significance, some people on set described the Large Stone Table as some kind of Sacrificial Ritual like look to it and even said there was a like Sacrificial Blade.

The concepts show that the center could open up to reveal a PIT of Fire. But as we dont get this in the movie its a case of is this Canon?  We simply cant be sure, but the Floor does have circular patterns and we can wonder do they open up?

The Interesting thing is this Room appears to be located down some stairs and is TINY compared to the Sheer Size of the Cathedral Building, the linking passage ways to the Hall of Heads are a series of Catacombs and like roughly carved out Tunnels.

It could be that there was a Ancient Underground Ritual Place, located maybe inside some Cave/Mound and maybe the Cathedral Temple was built around this Ancient Ritual Place, much like the Dome of the Rock Mosque is. (Built on the Mound/Ground where Mohamed Ascended to Heaven)

Its certainly a Central Place of Importance to the Engineers Culture/Rituals

The ALIEN Franchise has Potential, as Monster-Zero said... but potential maybe only as far as LOW-Budget adaptions, Disney will know they can market the Franchise as far as Merchandise, Comics, Games and Toys etc....   Its a case of would they feel doing Movies with $80-150M Budgets be a worthwhile investment?

I know a number of people would have wanted to pick up from Prometheus, but we have to try and think what would a Prometheus 2 had been?

We have to ask the following Questions when setting up a Sequel.

1) Does the Company send a Mission to LV-223 and would a Prometheus sequel cover this Plot, either fully or in part/set up it for a 3rd movie?

2) Does David take Dr Shaw to the location where the Engineer in Prometheus had referred to how we (Mankind) would call it Paradise? Or does David go somewhere else?

3) If David and Dr Shaw head to Paradise, would they find a World that is in a state of Destruction, or a World that has a thriving Civilization and so what state is Paradise in?

4) Are there beings on this World, and if so are they Benevolent/Malevolent and how would they feel about David and Dr Shaw?

5) Are these beings aware of LV-223, Mankinds creation and interaction with the Engineers and our intended Destruction?  If so how much are they aware and what do they feel regarding these?

6) Would these beings welcome David and Dr Shaw, and give Shaw her Answers?   Would these Answers be pleasing to Dr Shaw or Horrific?

7) Following Interaction of Dr Shaw/David and the Engineers, (or what ever beings) and what goes down, how do the Engineers/beings respond and what plans would they now have?  And how would Dr Shaw/David respond depending on what Dr Shaw finds out and how they are received and the knowledge of where Mankind Technologically are now?

8) Would we see a lot of time devoted to Dr Shaw and David on their Voyage towards Paradise?

9) Would the events of finding Paradise or what David/Shaw do, reveal any more about the Black Goo, the Xenomorph or LV-223?

10) Would we require any length of time with Flash Backs to Engineers and would they be on Paradise, Earth or LV-223 or maybe each?

These i feel are the 10 Big Questions that Set up a Sequel, and depending on the answers to these, sets up the way the next Questions are answered...  I.E  the Answer to Question 3 effects Question 4, the answer to Question 4 effects Question 5 etc etc.

And you will see its a Pretty Hard Task to do any justice...

Ridley Scott however kindly during the years between Prometheus and Alien Covenant, he had basically told us what was likely...

Prior to the Sequel Plans, he mentions that he DID-NOT want to meet GOD in the First Movie, in regards to the removal of the Elders Scene, and he referred to that act as BENEVOLENT but referred to the Engineers as FALLEN ANGELS and Nasty/Aggressive $"£%^$

Then months latter he said they (Dr Shaw and David) are off to the Home-world of the Engineers, they do find beings, these beings are not GODS, not in the Traditional Sense, they are also Far from Benevolent.... but David is bringing HELL with him.

Thats a Big Clue right there.... he also then mentions, the Engineers are Fallen Angels, the Idea would follow themes from John Milton's Paradise Lost and Dr Shaw would be off to get her answers but the Paradise she hopes to find will be a Connotation of a Dark/Dangerous World.

At the time just prior and when Alien Paradise Lost was announced (month of so before Alien Covenant Name Change) Ridley Scott had mentioned that David and Dr Shaw are off to the Engineers Home-world but they will discover a Evolving Organism that they made (we can assume Engineers).  He then also mentioned that in Paradise Lost the Fallen Angels seemed like they had the most FUN in that Poem....   He then also mentions you have ONE GUY who is Handsome goes to all the Parties, gets all the Girls, while you have another who is NOT as Handsome and stays at home being boring.

Finally RS just prior to Alien Covenant Announcement, says that if the Engineers are the Forerunners to Mankind, then what makes it possible for Worlds to be able to allow for that (Create Life on) were is the BIG GUY and then he mentions about the Big Bang, was it a Accident?  then he says even Stephen Hawking Questions whether the Big Bang was some Natural, Accidental Event.

So it appears things changed over time, a lot in reaction to Prometheus and it not answering the Xenomorph Origins, it never had Xenomorphs or similar, and that going for a movie that steers further from Alien/Xenomorph and follows Dr Shaw and her Quest for Answers with these beings they find.. was something maybe most fans would not be fond of.... HENCE Dan Harper/John Logan re-writing the Plans that gave us ALIEN COVENANT and basically BY-PASSING what ever Prometheus 2 would have been.

"What happened to having a 6 movie story already laid out?"

Upon completion of Alien Covenant, RS was refering to the potential for another 6 movies, or 6 total, its where he feels his ideas and plans could take it, we dont know what he meant by 6 movies.  I doubt it would be 6 Movies directly set leading to ALIEN, that would be silly.  Its likely 3 Prequels after Prometheus to loosely connect to ALIEN or literally, and then the other 3 could be expanded stories that either take us away from ALIEN (explore Engineers) or that are set after ALIEN or indeed Parallel to ALIEN but will not be Xenomorph movies.. (the latter 3)

This was as far as RS feeling it could expand more than the required Prequels, and regarding Prequels RS had said that Alien Covenant will need ONE Maybe TWO Sequels before we get to ALIEN

"Why are we again waiting years and years in between films?"

It appears that when working on AC they had rough ideas how it would connect to ALIEN as far as sequels, and the Plan was to make the Prequels more closer BACK-TO-BACK and so at the time of AC release they actually had a nearly finished ready to go SEQUEL and it appeared the plans would have been for a Summer 2018 shooting, and April 2019 Release.  No doubt the 3rd and maybe FINAL Prequel in the NEW Alien Prequels. (set after Prometheus) would likely had been planned for release by say 2021-2022 for sure.

The Disappointing BOX Office for Alien Covenant and mixed Reception, had made FOX have to consider what went wrong and take a TIME-OUT than Plow Head On into a SEQUEL i would safely ASSUME if Alien Covenant made $350-400M World Wide and had less Criticism (or same complaints but made $400M+) then the Sequel could well be under way as of NOW as far as Production.  Pending the Disney Take Over....    

As of NOW any sequel is in a state of Limbo... Pending if Disney are keen and in any rush to make a Alien Covenant Sequel, and they would also have to consider WHY did Alien Covenant Disappoint? I cant see Disney rushing into Producing a Sequel or ANY other ALIEN movie unless they feel it would make a 300%+  Return on its Budget.

"there is an entire untold story in the ten years between the two movies....Will we ever get to see this story?"

Unfortunately the answer will be NO as far as Movie, i think a Novel would be handy, or a Comic Book Series but who knows.  I think it may be kept a Mystery, as they had laid down a lot of clues between The Crossing, and Alien Covenant and the Viral Videos such as the Advent and Davids Notes.  while we can paint a picture we cant get a 100% Spoon Fed A-Z of what happened, there is a bit of ambiguity but a lot of clues that send us down a certain Path... i can give my TWO CENTS if you like, i think its accurate and detailed and should be somewhat like what must have happened but with a few areas that i would have to propose a few alternatives due to the ambiguity.

"will the series ever get back on track?"

Hopefully but its a case of too many cooks in the kitchen and NO set A-Z Plan thats kept to, its pretty much like a Game of Make it up as you go along, where you started with a IDEA, pass it on and someone comes in and changed its and adds to it but often disregards what was set down prior.  Its a mess if i am honest.... but i think it NEEDS closure, i would hate for it to be left as it is, and then 10-15 years we get a Re-boot of the Prequels, that disregard the TWO we already have.

Welcome... and indeed these are interesting things to ponder.

First we have to wonder what is meant by Alien Awakening as Svanya pointed out this first slipped in a Interview RS had done, where he did mention the Order was Prometheus, Awakening then Covenant. But we have to bare in mind RS is prone to mistakes, and can get misquoted by taking what he said as Literal and not paying attention to any mistakes.

Here is a GOOD example.

"So we've reinvented the idea of Alien, I think, which is that Covenant gets us a step closer to who and why was this thing designed to make human beings. And if you think it's them [the Engineers], you're dead wrong."

Some at Face Value thought this means we would find out why/who made Human beings, and the if you think it was them (Engineers) your wrong... so that means ENGINEERS did not create Humans?  Only if we look in context to what AC was about that it makes sense..  Thus i feel RS meant this.

"So we've reinvented the idea of Alien, I think, which is that Covenant gets us a step closer to who and why was this thing designed to KILL human beings. And if you think it's them [the Engineers], you're dead wrong."

By swapping Make with KILL then we can see this comment clearly fits the AC Plot, were we find out who/why this thing (Xenomorph) was created to Kill Humans, and while we assume Engineers, Alien Covenant throws the Curve-ball its DAVID

So again when RS mentioned

"There will be another one before we kind of literally and logically, clockwise, back into the rear back head of [the original] ‘Alien,'” Scott said, making sense of where in the “Alien” world the films are placed. “It will go ‘Prometheus,’ ‘Awakening,’ ‘Covenant’ … fairly integral where this colonization ship is on the way.”

Knowing what AC had laid down... which is David Created the Proto-Xenomorph, and we are going Clockwise, which means A-Z, 1-10 as in a sequel, that leads closer to ALIEN with a sequel that leads closer still.  "fairly integral where this colonization ship is on the way.”  thus meaning the Ship at the end of AC is on its way to FILL-IN the Plot Device that leads us to ALIEN that being David, his Face Huggers and Thousands of Viable Hosts.

Then it could be that RS actually means Prometheus, Covenant and Awakening.

RS had mentioned in other interviews about the next one being Awakening, but then he also said this was Blomkamps Title for Alien 5 and so while Awakening is the name of the Next Movie, it does not 100% mean that it will Cronologically be set after Alien Covenant, but when i look at the comments RS makes regarding the sequel and where its going next and his "literally and logically, clockwise, back into the rear back head of ALIEN" comment all point to the next movie being what happens to David, the Covenant the Colonist and if they GO to Origae-6

Some info regarding the hall of heads, from March 2017.

The Hall of Heads is designed to be a somewhat ambiguous but sacred place for the Engineers. “We wanted to make it monumental. That did have some backstory of worship or a place of where the elders were or whatever so there was some gravity there,” said Seagers. It’s where the information was stored, and the heads were representing the history and the past.”

The Hall of Heads has a constant rain of showers from a hole in the ceiling that’s meant to evoke Harry Dean Stanton’s death scene in Alien.

http://collider.com/alien-covenant-spoilers-things-to-know/#cast-and-characters

@ATI

Indeed there are some Large ones Carved into the Mountains i wonder how many there are in Total? i think we only see TWO in the Movie. This does not mean there are not more.

@sherris

Indeed, the Big Head in Prometheus also had similar markings, some Ancient Cultures in Particular in Africa take part in Scarification where they scratch or burn their skin to leave markings.  A lot of time its to Mark out a Right of Passage or some other Significant/important Milestone for the Culture/Tribe. Sometimes they can differ in markings to indicate  Rank/Order and sometimes to Mark them as being part of a Certain Tribe.

Tribal Tattoos also are used for similar reasons by other Ancient Tribal People.

So we can assume the Statues with these are to Mark out some Specific Role/Hierarchy of those beings or a Mark of a Right of Passage, a Symbol of being the Wise, the Apostles and Superior.   Maybe they could be combined with the Engineer Cuneiform Markings to not the individual Engineers Name?

Probably not intentional but interesting similarity between Prometheus and Soldier:

Still from Soldier:

Still from Prometheus:

Still from Prometheus (mirrored):

Still from Soldier:

Still from Prometheus (mirrored):

I think it is interesting to wonder the thought process behind the 7 Elders in Prometheus, i know we should not look at it TOO Literal, but a number of Mythos/Religions have 7 Gods of Creation or in some 7 of a certain layer/hierarchy (like the Sumerian gods) , but also some have 12 like the Olympians and Titans each with 12.   Commonly Biblical Connected txts etc do link to 7 Arc Angels but also 11 Fallen Angels plus Lucifer.

@Dark Nebula

I have looked at the Hall of Head Scenes from a few shots and after watching it, it appears we see 6 Engineers, but then every shot seems to come from a POV of a area where there is a GAP i dont recall ever seeing anything from this Area its always shots from the POV of this area.

This is obviously a SET and the POV area is obviously where the Cameras are Set, and so just as the Juggernaught Set has only 3 Sides and not 4, due to one side being the POV... I wonder if the Hall of Heads SET is intended to have 6 Head Sculptures or if there is a 7th which there can be only room for ONE MORE and so is there a Gap in the Hall of Heads or does the Hall of Heads have Heads Surrounding the WHOLE Circular layout and thus another 7th  Head that we dont see because the Scenes are shot from the POV of this head?

If there is supposed to be 7 Heads, which would all fit around the room in a circular set up with the same amount of spacing between, then this matches the 7 Elders in Prometheus and how we have 7 Archangels and in some Cultures 7 Gods.... and if so is this Coincidence? or was their some thinking behind this number?

Evolution of the Armored Personnel Carrier?

Soldier:

Aliens:

'NB Ridley Scott has a thing about eyes, especially in Blade Runner. That movie is just stuffed full of other eye-related matters. Like Chew's eye factory, the owl blinking, Roy sticking his thumbs into Tyrell's eyes, the red glint in Deckard and Rachel's eyes, the Voight-Kampff machine display...' - by hox

Some eye-related stills from Soldier - Caine:

Batchpool - You are welcome.

I've just found another one with the piece of Lewis & Clark from Event Horizon:

Yeah i got to where the Alien killed someone and then died after that lol

I dont have a PS4, maybe i can pick the Ps3 version up cheap and find out where i put my PS3

Name of the fish: Viper dogfish shark.

Monsterzero, that's a great point. 

I'd like Disney to hire writers to fill the gaps. Release new Alien novels every month. Fan Fiction can only go so far... And instead of spending 100 million on a new movie..spend 10 million and create their own Alien verse.  Use it on conventions. AlienFeast2018.....Planet4 novel series. Some audio dramas.

They really need to GROW the franchise. Every year we are losing tens of thousand of Alien fans from death. Where are the new fans coming from!? ( Releasing 6 movies in 40 years doesn't help. ) James Bond has 26 movies in 55 years...Alien should have more than 6.

Star Trek is facing the same problem...Fan base is getting old and dying....then CBS puts it behind a paywall!?!? crazy.

That's exactly what I've been saying. I love Aliens movies and we have to wait forever for sequels to come out just to feel lost like well what happened to this and what happened to that? Why can't they pick up where Prometheus ended and tell that story. That's the one I'm waiting for. And why did they create us just to try and destroy us later? I mean I still love the movies and I will watch them regardless but I'm left wanting. 

BigDave It sounds like you never encountered the Alien. After that moment, the tone really changes.

As Ati said, it could make a nice Alien prequel with the egg silo. It was interesting being pointed out they were not armed- maybe they were not expecting combat/trouble. EXCEPT- one guy said "It's here" when the queen was heard, implying they kind of knew what they were looking for. We can speculate all day long (as we usually do) about this short. It leaves a lot of questions but works as a nice pretty self contained short.

Nice video.  Things sure did go bad quickly!

Not to try and pick holes in the story, but....

It would seem kind of odd for a handful of people to just descend into the cavern without any weapons.  That one person was just recently impregnated by a facehugger.  She had to be because she woke up when the "nightshift" came in.  I'm sure that they would have known something was up down there.

Yet, at the very end... the ship leaves everything behind.

This brings the question, then...

Were they brought to the cavern on purpose to feed the aliens or allow them to produce more.  Hence the name "Special Order".  It was some kind of set up then.  Once everybody on the ship landed, then the member in charge of the ship (most likely AI working under special order which the crew would have no knowledge of) would leave.

It's short and somewhat vague, yet all of that just adds to film.

Well made and I do like the story.

I'm glad I watched it!