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I hope the Alien prequel is not going to be too late, still wish they will start filming this year. Probably Blomkamp smelled Ridley Scott is the victor and "moved on" before the announcement being made by Disney.
It's so damn strange to imagine the Disney logo at the beginning of an alien film... I can't take seriously. They have to prove otherwise. And soon. We are out of topics here.
Thank you for the topic joylitt.
I still say they filmed more in 2016 with Lope, Rosenthal, Daniels, Tennessee, and the rest of the team on the Covenant ship because it would have been too easy with everything in place and Fassbender needed for the Walter introduction that lasted just moments in the novelization. So, hopefully that is what is meant by "We already know what we'd do with that" in regards to the Covenant crew story.
Why not film the portions of the Origins novel that included the characters from Alien: Covenant? I know I've been a parrot with this statement for most of the year but really, why not. What is left is the Engineer mythology and the fine-tuning of the biomechanical xenomorph in the next installment(s) before Alien in 2122.
By "crazy" I believe Ridley Scott says this because of Scott's spectacular delivery of on time/on budget record of late and portions of Alien: Covenant's sequel(s) are already on film. It would be crazy to shelve something that is already a skeleton that only needs the meat.
I know Ridley Scott has insisted on a couple of more prequel films but I'm not sure about that. Disney is growing it's content inventory in preparation for a streaming service of their own and I would expect we would have something from the Alien universe in that delivery system too opposed to a theater release.
I got an Indiegogo up for a more conservative dollar amount here.
Without doubt, Jon Hamm has some personal features that make him difficult to fully absorb...
Gavin - That is a good piece of news. Please help create the ultimate Alien prequel. Wee need it.
daliens - Probably that is a brilliant piece of news showing that Disney would like to work with Ridley Scott in the future. I think we'll get the perfect Alien prequel from Scott.
It is shocking! I am freaked out. I've been screaming for twenty minutes like Hugh Dancy...
Since Disney now owns alien maybe he's using the Merlin movies as a bargaining chip to get new Alien made?
I've watched the movie, it's nothing like anything like the androids, and the movie was first presented a year ago at Sundance and is based on play (of all things...)
option 3 is presupposes that Walter is still functional as the Engineers have not invented binary logic, have they...? Or they don't care ...
Seems interesting, does seem a bit of a rip off of David/Walter as in i wonder if they used the Synthetics as Inspiration?
Yes,but it would take years, and Scott is not getting younger and Disney might have the bright idea that in the mean time to make a Cameron produced Alien, especially if Alita is a big success story.
On the Plus side.......
RS does tout himself as being able to get Movies done Quick and Under Budget.... if RS works on a Merlin Movie and it does well and Disney are impressed and want to get a sequel done... RS could then be like... you know i could make TWO movies in the space of a year... Give me a chance to do a Alien Prequel.
Then again.... would Disney do this?
We know RS has said he makes movies for HIMSELF, his interview the other day he basically said he comes with a High Price, and had critizied Star Wars to a degree.... I would have thought Disney would want more of a YES man to work on any Merlin Movie.
And RS now interested in Merlin more than Alien? Well if RS has gave up with ALIEN i cant see much of a future for the Franchise apart from maybe Miss Weaver trying to get Blomkamps (Ripleys) Alien 5 Popcorn Fan Service flick done.
If this article is true its a VERY SAD day for the Franchise.... i expect a Re-Boot of the whole ALIEN saga in 10-20 years instead.
"But how would engineers know about Origae-6?"
Good Question, the one answer would be HOW else does a Engineer Ship end up with Davids Creations...
1) Is Origae-6 a Engineer World, or was and does it have a Engineer Ship? i feel this is a bit too much of a coincidence.
2) Do the Engineers arrive at Planet 4 and then realize what happened, and can find out the Juggernaught had came from LV-223 and then head to LV-223.. but for this to lead to Alien, Davids Creations have to get from Origae-6 to LV-223 and i dont think David would head directly to LV-223 but who knows... Oriage-6 will take 7 years odd to reach, i would assume if David goes to Origae-6 spends a year there and then heads to LV-223 with a Human ship we are talking 15 years here?
3) Do the Engineers arrive on Planet 4 and find some way of knowing David is off to Origae-6, i think they could track him if they arrived early but then would no doubt catch up with the Covenant way before it gets anywhere... So its maybe likely that they find WALTER and somehow via him they know that David has taken the Covenant Ship and its destination is Origae-6
I think Option 3 is the more likely set up.
@Thoughts_Dreams
Again good points... when we look at RS we need to look at his Mindset, he was proud of ALIEN considered it his Baby, its one of the most Iconic Movies he had ever been involved with, and he never got to explore a sequel the way he would have wanted... so he had the chance with a Prequel Series, and a thing to remember about RS... is exactly has he has said a few times... HE MAKES MOVIES for himself... not the FANS so indeed you are right with your point regarding RS.
Regarding the blame on the Xenomorph, myself i think the Prequels had the right idea, the Xenomorph had been done over and over, and it needed to be something fresh and you either had to show more of the Xenomorph Origin first then MOVE ON or show something different but then SET UP the Xenomorph again.
Prometheus was right in exploring something bigger and fresh, its problem was in hindsight Fans expected it to be a literal Prequel and expected as a Alien Prequel more answers should have been given, they was too vague and did not ANSWER how the Xenomorph was Created... not in a Spoon Fed Way... also there was no Xenomorphs... which did not settle well with some fans... The Bigger Problem was there was nothing related to the Xenomorphs.
The Hammerpede, Trilobite and Deacon all provided clues, but because none of these really got up to the Shenanigans of Xenomorphs in previous movies it just felt it was not ALIEN at all... This does not mean it needed Xenomorphs..
But having a Zombie Fifield and Angry Engineer killing the Humans instead of anything related to the Xenomorphs was the Big Problem with Prometheus.
They felt Prometheus did enough to show us that these Engineers had experimented on stuff that is related to the Xenomorph, but lost control Thousands of Years ago, so all we had was the Xenomorph is related to the Black-Goo, Mural and Deacon and a result of what was going on LV-223 Thousands of years ago..
RS and FOX felt that was all that was needed and they could move on to explore other things and not have to directly show the Xenomorph, because you have to be careful, you have to give the Xenomorph Special Treatment if you are to cover it again.... which means Sacrifice other things you can explore. They knew its hard to cover the things they wanted and have a Xenomorph, the Balancing Act would be hard.
Alas FOX felt actually it was a mistake to take the Prequels away from the Xenomorph, and it needed to be introduced again..... But trying to cover other things too, meant the Xenomorph was just not done justice...
I dont see it as nothing about blaming Fans for the Xenomorph, i think FOX felt that bringing the Xenomorph back would surely please those who had been disappointed with the lack of Alieny Monster Carnage in Prometheus and looking at the Fans Excitement for Blomkamps Alien 5, i think FOX felt that the classic Xenomorph is something the fans would like to see again.
IF Alien Covenant never happened and Alien 5 did, there is no Guarantee it would have done justice to the Xenomorph apart from the same as what AVP and Alien R had done.. and so Popcorn Action Fan Service. Some fans liked Alien and Alien 3 and how they dealt with the Xenomorph... they would not be into a Action Popcorn kind of Xeno Trope... I think AC tried to please Alien and Aliens Fans, but did so in a bad way.
I dont think AC was bad because of the Xenomorph, just in some respects it was bad in how it was handled.
I think the Problem and what i was touching on regarding Fans wanting Xenomorphs.. is the Franchise was limited... we could Ret-con the Prequels make them more Xenomorph, but then doing 2-3 Xenomorph Prequels would be hard to do, it may please Popcorn Fanboys, but you could over exploit the Xenomorph and if you do this... you risk damaging the reputation of the Xenomorph, much like the AVP movies did.... but we could ignore them as they are not Canon.
But a Prequel Series with Xenos and Queens, can potentially over cook the Xenomorph it has to be done very very well. How do you maintain that for another 2-3 movies?
Its why something more and fresh has to be looked at and Prometheus decided the Space Jockey would be better to be explored in more detail as NO movie showed nothing about him apart from his Dead Corpse in ALIEN
The Problem with doing a Prequel to cover the Space Jockey and loosely give us clues to the Xenomorph, is a Prequel with some Fans would not be a ALIEN Prequel unless it had ALIENS in it, for some fans this means Queens and Xenos, but then for others it just had to be something related, the Neomorphs are a fine example. Imagine if Milburn Chest Busted a Deacon, and Fifield became a Deacon/Human Hybrid and attacked the Crew.... this would be more ALIENY but Prometheus tried to be more of a Thought Provoking movie and felt it never needed Alien Monsters, not in terms of how the Alien Franchise did.... and this is BECAUSE the aim was a loose Prequel and not a ALIEN Prequel, the aim was to go away from Alien, because Prometheus was the stepping stone to explore the Engineers.
some fans would be upset at this, because they expect when taking the route of the Space Jockey, we would get a movie that would show us WHEN/HOW and WHERE/WHY the Xenomorph came to be, and that further prequels should be connected to the ALIEN universe which has to be about Xenomorphs and similar Monsters created from the Black Goo.
THIS ^^^ Paragraphe is why we got Alien Covenant, and indeed a Alien: Prefix Prequel Series where FOX felt that indeed instead of steering away from Alien and Xenomorph like Monsters, in Hindsight they never covered it enough in Prometheus and that actually heading towards Alien is the better route for the Franchise... to give those Answers and that doing a ALIEN Prequels that would go further from ALIEN would maybe not do as well as ALIEN movies.
So they attempted this with Alien Covenant, setting up a ALIEN: Trilogy that with TWO more movies would lead to Alien, would have Xenomorphs, while setting up a return of the Engineers only as for the Plot Device to get a Derelict Engineer Ship involved. And also to cover AI/David arc.
They would no doubt have thought Fans would be interested in Davids Arc from Prometheus to AC, they would be excited to showcase different Black Goo Creations, and indeed have TWO kinds on the loose, the Neomorph and Xenomorph... And then set up the next movie to step closer to ALIEN with the Engineers coming back so that by the time we get past the NEXT Two movies.
We will see Xenomorphs vs Engineers vs Humans and get the events that lead to Alien, and then leave it open for FOX to explore the Engineers in other movies if they go down well.
They was not expecting the disappointment and back lash that Alien Covenant had got.
But how would engineers know about Origae-6?
@Batchpool
I think this is where the Prequels would eventually lead us, if Davids Creations end up on the Derelict, then its likely as we see with the Advent Prologue that the Company are aware and would be incoming to see what David has been up to... But where would they send ships? Origae-6? they could also check out LV-223 and Planet 4.
But i think we will see Engineers Return and this is the Plot Device that leads to the involvement of the Engineer Ship the Cargo ends up on.... so after the events from AC to Alien, the company must get some insight into Davids Creation but it becomes a BUST!
However they find out some of his Creations have ended up on a Ship on LV-426
This is WHY they are in a very hard place now as far as to move the Story on.
*Fanboys may like to see Eggs and Queens and Xenomorphs, but would doing and showing the Xenomorph too much over the next TWO movies be too much?
*Some like the David Arc, but some dont and i think many are disappointed with the David Creates the Xenomorph route, how do they handle this? Change it? or have Davids Creation needing to Evolve at the hands of someone else other than him? The fans are Split on David and so how they handle a David and how they handle a Queen are things that no matter what they do, will not please every fan.
*Some fans want more of the Engineers, but some feel there story is just not awe inspiring its not ALIEN enough, yet some find it very interesting... so how they introduce the Engineers and reveal more about them has to be done careful and no matter which way they go, its not going to please every fan.
*GOOD Human Characters are a Must, no more Humans just to drive the Plot along... but this is hard due to the set up... The Ending of AC does not bold well for Daniels and Tennessee, do we see David awaken and toy with them? A movie about David, Daniels and Tennessee may not be too interesting not now Daniels knows who Walter is..
*The Set Up, is Davids Creations will end up becoming the Cargo on the Derelict, but David is off to what we can assume Origae-6 with Thousands of Colonist, but only TWO Face Huggers, HOW does all this leads to Thousands of Eggs? And then THESE Eggs have to end up on a ENGINEER Ship that eventually ends up crashing on LV-426 that is very close to LV-223 and yet is some distance from Origae-6
This means the movie has to revolve around David, because the Biggest Question is DAVIDS Agenda... what does he plan next? where does he want to go Next... because if David wants Mankind Dead, or David wants to change those Thousands of Colonist into Eggs... then he really does not need to wake them up and interact with them.
He can use them ONE by ONE which means no great use of Human Characters.... unless some of the Humans Escape and then contain David, and are able to then try and SAVE the rest while then having to deal with the Xenomorphs.
But we still need a Engineer Ship, a Pilot and Thousands of Davids Eggs... so this kind of Plot wont really add up...
I think i have a idea where RS is taking this, and its similar to the Plot/Idea i have...
Very Good Points....
I have to say David is getting Cooked, the Xenomorph is Cooked but both are necessary to the Plot now we are going to directly connect to ALIEN and there is a Larger Story behind all of this, there is a History about the Engineers, there has to be a reason/history for their role with Mankind. Prometheus opened up the Door to this.... the Xenomorph just being a Weapon Created to use against Mankind,
This is the reason for Prometheus going the route to move away from ALIEN, but this was not a path many Fans wanted and FOX felt that they had to make Prometheus now connect to Alien, and hence the Prequel Series with the ALIEN: Prefix.... going this route maybe they could have had Flash Back Scenes or even a Movie set Thousands of Years ago, showing how LV-223 connects to the Xenomorph and how the Xenomorph connects to the Engineers, but would a movie set around Engineers where they would have to Spoon Feed the events that lead to the Derelict Work?
They would either have to have Engineers Speaking English to each other, or give us Subtitles. How does this connect to Humans though, we need Humans and so would having Human Characters from Thousands of Years ago work?
They could have set the sequel after Prometheus where Narration by David or a Engineer would have gave us clues or even showed us HOW/WHEN the Xenomorph was created, this route could even had not needed to Spoon Feed every single moment of the Space Jockey event. It appeared Prometheus 2 would have set this up, well provided enough clues. Without being set Thousands of Years ago, but by giving Narration and Flash Backs.
But instead they decided to move directly to Alien, where we can see the Xenomorphs created and unleashed on Humans within our Time-Frame, again they could have indicated David found the Eggs or Re-Created what the Engineers had once done.... It could appear maybe this was the plan? But it Evolved to having David Create it, because it now leads a Direct Series of Events from Xenomorph Origin and WHY to Xenomorph Evolution and HOW and then ending up on the Derelict. But all done as a series of Events Set after Prometheus using the Black Goo.
What AC has done is somewhat maybe shown us how the Xenomorph was created or intended to had been but by not just Re-creating it, but showing us the ORIGIN of the 1979 Xenomorph is a result of Experiments on the Black Goo in the Time-line of after Prometheus...
Sadly by going this route, it makes it harder to bring back the focus and expansion on what Prometheus 2 may have set up..... instead we are on the path to Spoon Feed the Derelict event and give Fans Xenomorphs and Xenomorphs..
I do think a lot of people and especially Fanboys do miss the whole point of the Prequels, the Xenomorph type Monsters did make more of a impact in Alien Engineers but when they started to tackle the Prequels there was a number of Questions...
But first what do we know about the Xenomorph?
*It is a Alien Life-form with a very sinister and interesting Life-Cycle.
*Alien portrayed it as a Stealthy Organism that hunted down the Crew one by one, and Ultimately it was shown as a Organism that would make a Perfect Killing Machine.
*The Directors Cut, added the scenes (Egg Morph) that actually showed the Xenomorph had a purpose of more than just killing people. It had to use people (and never killed them all) to Procreate it Species.
*Aliens introduced us to a Queen that lays the Eggs and the Xenomorph Warrior who must Protect the Queen and Hive at all costs and scavenge for Hosts to allow for Procreation of their Species.
*The other movies never added nothing to the Xenomorph really, apart from bring home more that the Companies wish to go to what ever extreme to obtain the Xenomorph for mainly a Bio-Weapon.
We never really 100% knew its intention, purpose and certainly not its Origin but we had seen the Organism is Deadly and Procreates and could be used more as a Invasive Species to Eradicate a area of Life Forms. It could be used as a kind of Bio-Weapon my Mankind. But we NEVER really had any clear clues to WHY the Space Jockey had those Eggs and WHERE/WHEN did those Eggs come from.
The Space Jockey had them for some reason!
*Did it discover them and was in the process of carrying them to be studied and experimented on?
*Did they create/engineer these Eggs and if so WHY for what Purpose?
*Was there some other Race/Element that created the Eggs and enslaved (or created) the Space Jockey to transport these Eggs and maybe allow for them to Procreate... but WHY?
It is these last set of Questions that the Prequel was to cover, and in doing so it would have to reveal who the Space Jockey Race was and Purpose, WHY was he carrying that Cargo and then where did those EGGS Originate from.
Ridley Scott prior to the Prequels and indeed even after Alien, had suggested the Xenomorph was a Bio-Weapon, and the Derelict was a Bio-Weapon Cargo/Transport and a Bomber to a degree. Which means the Xenomorph Eggs where either.
*A Bio-Weapon Engineered by those Space Jockey but WHY and for use against WHOM?
*A Organism discovered by the Space Jockey that they found was useful as a Bio-Weapon.
*A Organism/Bio-Weapon created by some other Race or means that the Space Jockey was just some being/race that was tasked with Shipping and maybe deploying these on to Worlds?
So regardless the XENOMROPH was a Bio-Weapon or used as a Bio-Weapon, and we had seen nearly everything we need to know about them, apart from WHEN/WHERE was the Created/Originated from? And WHY?
The Prequels set out to ANSWER the WHEN/WHERE with a few clues to HOW and to begin to tease WHY?
A sequel to Prometheus would most likely and detailed more of the WHY! as it appeared it was the WHY would someone create such a Bio-Weapon as being the most important thing to cover, and so having to see a movie about Xenomorphs and Queens is not really necessary as there is a BIGGER Picture behind those who CREATED it and WHY?
This was what the Set Up regarding the Engineers, Creation, Rebellion, Punishment and Sub-Creating Philosophy and Mythos was to expand upon, within these would be the WHY
But a lot of fans were disappointed about this route, first the Space Jockey was a Humanoid in a Space Suit, then these Humanoids played a role in our Creation and Evolution, The Xenomorph potentially being just a Off-Shoot of some Pesticide/Bio-Weapon created by the Engineers to Protect against and Destroy wayward Creations. THIS was something a number of fans did not GET/LIKE
It should have been just about showing us HOW the Xenomorph was created and WHEN and then show us those Eggs and how/why and when they was loaded on the Derelict and then show us Xenomorph Carnage. THIS is what a larger majority of the Fans wanted to see rather than explore the Race behind the Xenomorph and their Motives.... In Context to the Franchise the Xenomorph to the Engineers could be just as much as say the PREDATOR attack Drones, a NUKE or Assault Riffles are for Mankind. There is more to Mankind than our Weapons, and we can show Drones Bombing and Shooting Enemies, we can show ASSAULT RIFFLES killing enemies. But is the more IMPORTANT Question WHY? so WHY create these Weapons for what Purpose, and Mankind has Evolved Warfare over the Thousands of Years, but there is more to Mankind than Weapons and Killing, and its the History, Rivalry and WHY we created Weapons and WHY we had to use them.
THIS... is what the Prequels Set up, and what the next movie was likely to have done, before FOX gave in to Fanboys Remarks and Excitement about ALIEN 5 and Xenomorphs... and so we got ALIEN COVENANT
The Curveball they threw was by keeping with the Theme of Creation, and seeing Creation not turn out as intended and become Sentient and against its Creator and then this Sub-Creation wishes to Sub-Create as well as themes of Fear/Protection against Creator and Creations by Creating something that would be used to ERADICATE and PROTECT from Wayward Creations, and/or Vengeful/Angry Creators.
Many fans could not understand these Themes, and were not interested in them.... but following these RS and Co... decided in following with the above it would be such a Curve-Ball that DAVID created the Xenomorph, that he PERFECTED and could Control or not loose Control of the Bio-Weapon intended to use against those the ENGINEERS Feared and wanted Destroyed and so its a more Dangerous Idea that the Engineers Failure to Destroy their Wayward Creation, lead to this Creation Sub-Creating DAVID and also then Mankinds Curiosity to seek out its own Creator had led DAVID to discover there was nothing Special about Mankinds Creation and there was no Great Love for us by our Creators. So David would then realize he is actually Superior, and its only the Engineers Knowledge, Tools and Bio-Weapon that made them Superior Beings and with this POWER David could be as a GOD.
This appears to be what Prometheus Sequels would also cover... but the Alien Covenant Curveball would be "hey WHY NOT have David be the Original Creator of the Xenomorph in Alien, rather than Experiment and Create Similar"
In Hindsight this could be a more Sticky Disappointment in the Eyes of Many Fans, but had Ridley Scott been allowed to do his Prometheus 2 and 3, then we would have had clues to WHY/WHEN and how the Xenomorph was Created Thousands of years ago and show that David now wished to Evolve the Creation and Create his OWN.
But nope... FOX felt Fans needed a More Direct Connection to those Xenomorph Eggs, and due to the Time-Line, and Fans wanting to see Xenomorphs in Real Time vs Humans etc... they had to change the Process of the Creation of the Xenomorph to a Event after PROMETHEUS and with that they deemed it a great idea to make DAVID the Creator.
People may think its about Mad-Robots and David... but its more than that, its not about AI as in Computers.... its about the Evolution of Creation and Created Life, which AI is Synthetic Creation.
Ridley already said that David's appearance was largely based on Wilson the Wonder Athlete. Check out his haircut as well as his attire.
He seems to want to evolve the Xeno to be a result of an android, that is how he will evolve it it is just that it is boring. To me it seems confused and I agree with DK here.
They don't need to do another movie with a Xeno running around and killing people but they need better human characters and stop having it being about a mad robot. As far as over-cooking the Xeno they have over-cooked David, he was better in Prometheus but they ruined him in Covenant. I don't want another movie with androids playing flute and discussing what ever it is even though I liked to see the differences in their viewpoints.
We don't even need to focus on the Xeno, we need better human characters. To me they did this right in Alien 1-3 so there is no reason why they can not do that again. By the way, the monster wasn't seen in many scenes in Alien, I think that is an important thing to remember. One reason why AC failed is that we did not get any connection to the humans because they were not well-written, an explanation to that is that Scott's interest is with the robots. I don't want another movie where the robots are given most of the attention.
As far as goofiness is concerned they got to keep alien serious. The closest to a goofy alien movie that we have gotten this far is AR and it is not very good. AC and Prometheus are flawed but at least they
are not goofy.
I would like the next movie to be:
Serious
Thriller-esque
About the humans and how they handle situations that they are not mentally or materially prepared for
Less about androids
“... as it appears they might go the crap, distasteful and unjust path of having David be responsible for the derelict.”
Hopefully not, they have already ruined much of the Xeno by making David responsible for it. I really hope that they don't make him responsible for the derelict because then the prequels turns into a completely AI crap-fest which deserves to be flushed down the toilet.
Holy shit ali81! That had me laughing so much so got tears in my eyes. :D
“I believe its an unlimited source and very cost efficient.”
Bahahahaha! :D *Hysterical laughter*
Something tells me that there is some sarcasm somewhere in that comment, I don't know why. ;)
That scene is embarrassing but kind of fun.
"And if that is successful as an AI movie, man, Scott will probably be even more pissed." - Red0Guy
Then him be so, alien movies should not be about AI, no matter what Scott thinks.
Leto: I totally disagree about Alien 3, it gave a good ending to Ripley. Killing off Newt and Hicks could have been done better but it was never about them anyways. Some people want Alien 5, and that is probably fine for them but I think that they should have stopped the Ripley story after Alien 3.
Gavin: The first three movie are the best IMO of the franchise. AR is where things started to get messed up and they have ever since. I agree that Scott is acting arrogant since he refuses to listen to much criticism even though both AC and Prometheus are disappointments but I think that Prometheus is the better one among those two. Keep Scott away from the story and it will be better that way or else we will get David part 77 (LOL). Fassbender is a good actor but like you say it becomes too much David and less monsters and Engineers and human too by the way.
Barf the Morg: I agree somewhat with what you say but I don't think that it is because he is holding Alien 5 back, it is because his obsession with David. Turning the prequels into the David adventure is what is threatening to turn the franchise into shit IMO.
Maybe that is for the better, I am not really interested in another Ripley movie. Having said this I am not interested in another David movie either and I am afraid that the next one will be crap.
I would not blame the fans like Big Dave does for wanting more Xenos, I am not even sure if that is correct. Most of the criticism that Prometheus got was that it had bad characters. My impression about the criticism of Prometheus comes from searching Google for things like “criticism of Prometheus” and similar things. Scott got it wrong if he thought that the lack of Xenos is what made Prometheus a disappointment.
Covenant handled things in a bad way by having mostly uninteresting characters and by having David responsible (possibly) for the Xeno. To me Covenant is worse than Prometheus unfortunately. Scott is partially to blame since he only cares about David.
Alien 5 would not have gotten any interest from me. I am not sure if I want another Ripley-hunts-Xenos-movie. To me Ripley ended in Alien 3, but they did AR which I still watch some times each year but it is not very good. WR is the only reason why I watch AR. Taking A3 out of canon would make me totally disappointed since that is my favorite this far in the franchise.
Great, I hardly trust either of these cats! NB's D9 was guided/produced by the last Jedi himself: Peter Jackson, so NB doesn't get much credit IMHO. I want a tight & well planned Alien movie like Rogue One, I find that just a fu*king masterpiece. Or, something more heavy focused on dialog & good characters like "It Comes At Night". Ridders or Neil need a short leash but I favor Scott attempting to redeem himself if he can play ball(make a good profitable film that doesn't have his dirty fingers all over the script). Too bad James Cameron is lost in the wilderness now w 3d smurfs, he had that midas touch at one time.
If the next movie was supposed to be about David then they might as well cancel it. Get better human characters and less AI or throw it in the trash can.
I blame Ridley for making it the David story, he should have carried on with the Engineers if you ask me. The Engineers is an interesting idea but the execution in both Prometheus and AC is flawed. AC would have been better if they explained them a bit more rather than being about David and also make them a threat to humanity. Since Prometheus got criticism about it I sort of understand why they did they way they did but the replacement was worse (David story).
The next movie got to :
1. Get the Engineers right
2. Have better human characters, and
3. Have less David
This is what I want to happen.
The story has got to be bigger than David and make the humans the central piece of it. As far as the screen time of the Xeno is concerned it doesn't have to be featured a lot, it did not in Alien and that worked. Yup the thing with David and creation was kind of boring especially since he had most of the screen-time.
Batchpool: Ha ha! Don't mess with Jonesy.
That idea is fun as hell, they see cats and they run. Maybe that is what the Engineers were running from in the hologram in Prometheus? :D
Interesting pictures NTFS, the one in your post where you write Terraforming goes bad on Origae-6 looks nasty as F.
"Maybe when exploring the Space Jockey, they should have had it as some Ancient Alien Race, that is not connected to Mankind, but is either conducting experiments on something they Found (Eggs) or they had Created those Eggs for some Purpose (Weapon) or indeed that they are a Race Created for the Purpose of Procreating those Eggs..."
That would have been a lot better, I agree. As far as a split fan-base is concerned, to me at least it takes more than a monster and some eggs to make the movie interesting.
smh. This doesn't sound good.
red0guy- The series is from the 90s but the newer Outer Limits have some really good AI episodes,
Bits of Love or Valerie 23 to name just two.
red0guy lol I am sure about one thing though, it Ridley achieves the levels of box office success of the typical Disney blockbuster, he will probably forget about Alien.
If we don’t get a film using all the work undertaken on the proposed film, I would love to see a game version instead. If done well like Isolation then it could be awesome!
dk The bicentennial man, yes, it could be. However, AIs here are incorporeal. And by the way, this movie does not over explain things, so you need to pay close attention. There are surprises, and the ending was very satisfying, however it is not what it seems.
red0guy Watch it, you won't regret it. Have some handerchiefs handy just in case. This movie was under the radar, but thanks to rottentomatoes (they are not always evil), I discovered it today. It was the #5 best reviewed sci-fi flick of the year and deservedly so.
