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Do we know what Ash was made from? Seems there was a very important white fluid that allowed these robots to function and act human. Could this be some kind of Biomech DNA material the company synthesized from the DNA code that was discovered on earth. Maybe the character of Vickers may also be one of these robots like Ash and is coursing with this Biomech DNA and perhaps some new material is discovered to be out there, maybe when they found the original DNA there was a pointer to a planet (zeta reticuli) where something mysterious would be found and so they send this first team to investigate. However instead of something wonderful it is a virus engineered by a giant head alien below ground. This virus may react specially with Vicker's biomech DNA and she grows into something strange, perhaps she becomes the space jockey herself eventually. Maybe while she is growing her mind becomes sick and she starts genetically manipulating the urns that contain the virus so that they become a new life force (xenomorphs} a virus that will affect humans. Perhaps she also has some ties with the engineer and splices her genes with the giant head and engineers a ship to grows out of her and around them. Maybe the derelict didn't crash maybe it's development was arrested when something burst from her chest. I do not believe the space jockey has to be very old. It was just assumed he was in Alien because he looked fossilized but the planet was constantly having strange dust storms, couldn't that explain the appearance of a fossilization? Perhaps the biomech DNA also fossilizes faster than anything we are use to. Or not at all but it was fun thinking out loud : ) Maybe something in my mess may be of interest or a jumping off point for discussion lol

Do we know what Ash was made from? Seems there was a very important white fluid that allowed these robots to function and act human. Could this be some kind of Biomech DNA material the company synthesized from the DNA code that was discovered on earth. Maybe the character of Vickers may also be one of these robots like Ash and is coursing with this Biomech DNA and perhaps some new material is discovered to be out there, maybe when they found the original DNA there was a pointer to a planet (zeta reticuli) where something mysterious would be found and so they send this first team to investigate. However instead of something wonderful it is a virus engineered by a giant head alien below ground. This virus may react specially with Vicker's biomech DNA and she grows into something strange, perhaps she becomes the space jockey herself eventually. Maybe while she is growing her mind becomes sick and she starts genetically manipulating the urns that contain the virus so that they become a new life force (xenomorphs} a virus that will affect humans. Perhaps she also has some ties with the engineer and splices her genes with the giant head and engineers a ship to grows out of her and around them. Maybe the derelict didn't crash maybe it's development was arrested when something burst from her chest. I do not believe the space jockey has to be very old. It was just assumed he was in Alien because he looked fossilized but the planet was constantly having strange dust storms, couldn't that explain the appearance of a fossilization? Perhaps the biomech DNA also fossilizes faster than anything we are use to. Or not at all but it was fun thinking out loud : ) Maybe something in my mess may be of interest or a jumping off point for discussion lol

Hey Ghost, I think the "Hive" approach Cameron took in Aliens was to kick in that primal fear that people have of Killer Bee's and the horror stories revolving around Killer Ants, two of the dominant hive mind creatures on earth. Also when you look at it from the stand point of the egg chamber in the ship I would guess there were thousands of eggs. Which to me meant mass production of aliens. Now to me and I'm not defending Cameron by saying this but how else would you be able to collectively manage 1,000's of aliens without the Hive Mind approach? There are millions of humans and we can hardly collectively get along let alone make decisions enmasse. Individually we're smart creatures but collectively we couldn't find are rears with both hands. Regards, Rick

First I guess I should say when I hypothesize about this movie I do not consider anything from the sequels and especially not the predator movies. I am pretty sure they do not have any bearing on Prometheus. I think only of the 1977 Alien movie. After my previous post I remembered an article I read on computers engineering life: http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/science-team-creates-synthetic-life-using-computer-generated-genome-20100521/ Here the scientists really cheated and used bacteria for the host. Stealing Fire from the Gods and giving it to humans. To me this would make perfect sense of how Ash and any other cyborgs in Prometheus may have been created, The host may be biological, a monkey perhaps, the code may be alien and some body mechanics may electronic or synthesized biomaterial This would make them subject to virus and mutation and in Ash's case insanity. This would explain why It always struck me odd that Ash seemed far more advanced technologically than the rest of the equipment within their world.

First I guess I should say when I hypothesize about this movie I do not consider anything from the sequels and especially not the predator movies. I am pretty sure they do not have any bearing on Prometheus. I think only of the 1977 Alien movie. After my previous post I remembered an article I read on computers engineering life: http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/science-team-creates-synthetic-life-using-computer-generated-genome-20100521/ Here the scientists really cheated and used bacteria for the host. Stealing Fire from the Gods and giving it to humans. To me this would make perfect sense of how Ash and any other cyborgs in Prometheus may have been created, The host may be biological, a monkey perhaps, the code may be alien and some body mechanics may electronic or synthesized biomaterial This would make them subject to virus and mutation and in Ash's case insanity. This would explain why It always struck me odd that Ash seemed far more advanced technologically than the rest of the equipment within their world.

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Ok so if the Jockey's are using a Bio Suit (like in Independence Day) then I could see the trunk part being a sort of biological rebreather/filtration system or oxygen supply to the head of the wearer. The Huge eyes would definitely give you a huge field of view in a sort of bioHUD. I have no clue as to how the suits could ambulate if the jockey are any bigger than a human. If the jockey's bio suits are huge then the jockey's themselves could very feasibly be around our size or smaller.

I heard that it was a sequal, not involvng Harrison Ford or the Deckard charactor. I hope Ridley keeps to the style of the original film and maybe answers a few questins from the original film.

Ghost Solitaire I love the idea that the ship is a living thing and I agree with that since the space jockey seems to be interfaced with the ship. I agree aswell that the company would be highly interested in the ship's technology although they never got the chance to study it because of the events in Alien and Aliens.

Agreed about the living ship idea; that sounds pretty sweet. This may be insignificant, but my one quip is this: the older the ship is, the older it's distress signal is. Just comparing it to our modern technology, we can barely keep a standard for 20 years... Perhaps the Nostromo could recognize all older distress signals as well? But if the ship is 10,000 years old... Would they even be able to get a distress signal? I doubt we'll still be using radio in 10,000 years...

Theres an idea in an alien spin off novel called 'Steel Egg' where it describes a distress signal having detailed information on the Alien, its lifecycle etc. Maybe the company picked up this signal and were able to decypher it,then send in the Nostromo? The original signal in Alien could be thousands of years old. They explain today that our radio signals are flying through space,a sort of frequency echo. This could possibly explain the age of the derilict and also how the company found out about the Alien in the first place? It always bothered me in Alien,that Ash didnt go to the derilict to destroy this 'signal' so other organisations wouldnt find it. Maybe the company realised that what ever was producing this signal was long since destroyed/kerputt, the radio echo theory may be the answer? Whats your thoughts?

I disagree. I think we'll use electromagnetic radiation to communicate forever. It is a fundamental force after all. In Alien, Dallas says that it's an "acoustical beacon" which doesn't really make sense since acoustics is vibration through solids, liquids or gases. How did the Nostromo receive the signal in space? It was hypothesised that the signal was a warning so the space jockey may have deliberately used a variety of different types of transmission.

above post for Ben. I agree with your echo theory, Thadus12

If the Xenomophic/terraforming theory was correct wouldn't you want to recover the ship if that was your technology? What happened there, why didn't the Space Jockey's people come for the ship if they were at all concerned about having it's secrets revealed. Easier yet, why didn't it do what Ripley did with the [i]Nostromo[/i] Those are all questions that have revolved around each time I watch the film. I read the Alien Harvest blog, and while it's entertaining, I hope that Prometheus goes in a different direction. I hate to think that our falibilities as a species resulted in the entire chain of events.

Space will be a playground for the privilaged and the powerful. The ships and technology represent investments in capital and resources that would bankrupt small independent companies. Weyland Yutani is a conglomerate that has probably eaten up all the lesser corporations that might have been a threat to it. No doubt they would not have a problem resorting to industrial espionage in order to keep their interests private. As regards the Space Jockey's distress signal perhaps it required years of reconstruction if had been bouncing around between stars losing integrity for thousands of years. There's a lot of noise out there and if it was one segment of bandwidth among all that static. It might have been discovered by unmanned survey ships as Weyland Yutani obviously has mining interests. If a survey probe did a fly by of the system it would have stood a better chance of picking up this beacon if the broadcast itself was faint due to EM interference from LV-426 or it's two suns. Worse yet, if the ship was operating under reduced output so the signal strength was downgraded in order to conserve it's power reserves.

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where is Giger in all of this? will he get some long deserved and neglected credits? we are seeing his inventions on the masthead of the site here and i saw 'derelict ship' designs allegedly from this film that completely reference Giger's 'derelict ship' from Alien

H.R. Giger is doing all of the Alien designs in Prometheus,including the brand new bigger xeno, but he is bound by contract not to give anything away. This film will be special.

Wouldnt it be a unique twist if the Alien knew that the ship was about to self destruct? That it is infact an intelligent lifeform and not simply running on instinct?

It was not suggested that the Xenomorphs were merely animals until Cameron took his swing at the Franchise. The films that followed Alien portrayed the xenomophs as beastial acting on instincts, really crushing any notion that the organism might have been highly intellegent, adapting to it's environment from the moment it borrowed DNA from it's host organism. Looking at it from a structural standpoint, that's a very big cranium...

Arrgy - I think I've pinpointed where we may be thinking of this differently. In my interpretations, I was not taking into account anything from any of the sequels. Including the aliens reactions towards humans vs androids. That's because I believe the sequels will be largely ignored in Prometheus. In other words, I don't think the alien will be treated as a wild animal/insect that drives off instinct. Maybe necessity, but not instinct. Another interesting theory I heard elsewhere is that the Alien had Kane's memories and acted upon them. (i.e.: It killed whomever Kane disliked or was annoyed by.) This would also explain why its suggested that the Alien did not kill Lambert but instead tried to "mate" with her causing her to die of fright? Probably just speculation but interesting to think about, ain't it?

[quote]I remember reading somewhere that the only reason Ripley is able to defeat the Alien is that it was engineered to only have a limited life span.It does seem sluggish at the end of the film. This does make sense i suppose, the space jockies use these 'Bio-weapons' to do a job and then they expire,leaving the space jockies nothing to clean up i.e. dangerous Aliens running free. What are your thoughts on this concept?[/quote] I had never really thought about it like this but it really makes sense, good call!

Yeah definately makes sense but sadly the expanded universe material and sequels kind of kills that idea. In Aliens the xenomorphs have been at the colony for weeks.

I have stated before that Aliens 'killed' a unique creature by turning it into a giant ant.The original concept of the Alien was completely different from what was created later in Aliens. The Alien originally self reproduced (no queen) and was an engineered weapon that had a limited lifespan. Please people,forget what has happened in Aliens and the rest of the fast money franchise! Ridley Scott has already said hes going back to the basics which is why Prometheus is been billed as NOT an alien prequel,so all the Cameron faithful dont get upset when the Queen and the hive mentality dont make an apperance.

I hope, in Prometheus, they haven't done anything to contradict the other alien films because it'll just make an even bigger mockery of the franchise. I really didn't like Alien Resurrection because ironically it didn't resurrect the franchise- it nearly killed it- and I didn't like what they did with the alien versus predator films, especially requiem. That film was dreadful

Alien is the root film, forget Aiens and the rest of the films made. There will be no Queen in Prometheus! Giant bugs in space.....what a joke! Cameron stick to your own films,Terminator and Avatar!

Also here: http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2011/08/18/blade-runner-ridley-scott/ http://collider.com/ridley-scott-new-blade-runner-movie/110028/ I don't really know what to say about that. Strange.

Sounds good. Saw this news everywhere this afternoon. Thanks for posting it up guys!

Well, from ALIEN we can determine that the Space Jockey has some humanoid characteristics. You can clearly make out the head, two arms and fingers. Not too much is known about them, aside from what you already mentioned. My guess is that they (or their suits) look very "elephant-like" in nature. The creatures inside them, who knows. That's where the "suspense" comes into play. BUT, if we are going with the hypothesis that the Space Jockeys created humans, and going by the Christian Bible which states that humans were made in "God's Image" then I don't think it's very "far out there" to assume that they will have some definite human like characteristics. Hopefully some more concept artwork will be released, or some more screen caps will be show cased so we can have a better grasp on the subject. But until then, it's anyone's guess.

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A way to incorporate what you are thinking of Ruhaniya would be if the vastly superior technology were part of the Alien installation. Exterior virtual imaging, as well as dazzling internal diagnostics.

Hey Ghost to build on what you are saying. The Nostomo is simply a utilitarian vehicle nothing mroe nothing less. No Bells, No Whistles. Just get there get the payload and come back so all the ammenities go out the window. Example NASA used 486 Computers in the Shuttle for more than 10 years after they were obsolete because again the shuttle is a utilitarian vehicle nothing more nothing less. So they Nostromo could have been thirtyish years old using thirtish year old technology at the time of its commisioning. Unlike the Prometheus being a cutting edge science vessel with all the new computer gizmos and toys at its operators disposal. So I could see the displays being old and antiquiated after prometheus.

I've always wondered about the "tech" available from one time period to another as well- with almost ALL SciFi films. Star Trek, Star Wars, and several others that jumped on the "prequel" bandwagon did the same things. Episodes 1-3 had significantly higher tech than 4-6 for Star Wars, and the same was true for the Star Trek reboot. Even though the obvious reason is nothing more than it is what was imagined [i]at the time each film/ episode was made[/i], it has still always bothered me too. Why not at least try to keep the tech "canon" continuous? I guess it's all for the WOW factor on the special effects. Of course all of the fanboys have an acceptable reason for it like ST having an altered time line or SW simply being that the Universe fell back from civilization as a result of the Empire, but it's just an excuse. Even though Alien had space travel and Cryo-hybernation in it, those are at least plausible and perhaps even possible technologies. I think such things add to the wonder of a good SciFi movie. Transporters, Warp drive, and cloaks are nice to dream about, but not much for reality. The more real a SciFi-horror film is, in every aspect, the better it is to me.

[quote]The more real a SciFi-horror film is, in every aspect, the better it is to me. [/quote] Let me clarify that: The more realistic (perhaps only slightly out-of reach) the tech is, the more it relates to something we're used to seeing. It makes for a more believable story, I guess. After reading over my comment, I realized how silly it sounded. Oops!

Hows this for an appetite wetter. A Ridley remake of Aliens or Better yet not a remake of Alien but an alternative Alien Perspective or even an Ash view type movie. There are always two sides to every story, Ash seemed to be missing ALOT throughout the later part of the movie maybe there was some Alien/Ash interaction that no one was aware of and then with the Jockey's in the mix a third side and then it goes on. Just an idea.

I'm loving the debate and discussions on this page. Since first finding out about this upcoming prequel I've had little sleep! I just hope that Scott doesn't slather Prometheus in CGI. The best part about the original 'Alien' is how tangible the experience was made for the audience. The set designs have that 'authentic' feel, the look & movements of our beloved "guest" are so visceral and life-like...(I personally would have loved it if Scott kept the scene in where Lambert turns around and sees the 'Alien' sitting in the corner...then scurries across the floor to her and sloooowly gets up....how CREEEEPY was [i]that?!?!)[/i] Please God (and Ridley Scott), make Prometheus the way it should be intended....as a TRUE PREQUEL to the best science fiction/horror film ever. Amen

Rick I admit that saying millions of years could be an exaggeration but I would settle for say 10,000 years. I don't think that the humidity in the ship is caused by liquid water. LV-426 is cold because of it's distance from it's star. I think the humidity is caused by liquid ammonia which has a boiling point of about -35C. The composition of the ship could be totally alien so it's not worth speculating on the corrosion. As for the egg chamber I think it is part of the derelict ship but is subterranean due to shifts in the planetoids surface. I think that transmitting a signal from the ship for 10,000 years is possible. It's just a case of the power supply- could be nuclear fusion.

Having digested so much information regarding this franchise over the years it saddens me that I can't recall where I heard or read that Lambert was supposed to have hidden herself in a locker and died from fright rather than being directly mauled by the xenomorph. Ripley was supposed to have found her after discovering Parker's body, or rather what was left of it.

Fusion reactors require the maintainance of extremely narrow parameters in order to fuction. To continuously produce power it has to be fed reactant which must be compressed to the point where the plasma implodes, accomplished either by ion beam confinement, lasers or a parallel current zeta pinch. For a fusion reactor to operate in steady state, as magnetic fusion energy schemes usually entail, the fusion plasma must be maintained at a constant temperature. Thermal energy must therefore be added to it (either directly by the fusion products or by recirculating some of the electricity generated by the reactor) at the same rate the plasma loses energy. While this isn't an arguement, I'm merely questioning the integrity of any automation system to keep the reactor that powered the beacon running for even 10,000 years in as hostile an environment as LV-426 with the hull breached as well as any damage to the ships eps system. Obviously the derelict is composed of extruded resins of some kind as it's internal structure resembled nothing so much as bone and muscle tissue. If the ship itself were bio mechanical then perhaps it can generate radio waves as part of it's metabolic activities. This technology in and of itself would be worth infinitely more than the Xenomorph and it's various applications.