LV-426 after all.....

the warning signal was clearly in alien language ...of course there can be an explication for that . We can be really sure its the lv426 ? The ship is surely the same ...or the same class .

we can't be 100% sure it's lv426.... i'm pretty sure it is as it will be the link to alien

Def...can't wait to see the HD trailer, lol..then we can go frame by frame and see more. I am thinking that the last 8 minutes is the climax of the film where we see the cause of the ship and the maybe this is LV426 before it was called this....so many questions! lol

From that I see My simulated 8 minute ending is starting to make a lot more sense now...lol. My G-d you can just cut the anticipation for this thing with a freakkin' butcher knife. If watching that trailer mash with that background score doesn't get you..."UP"... You must be listening to "Limp-Bizkit" Jack... ...'Cause that right there was "The "Fa-Sizzle" !!! LMAO.

Oh my god!!! It really is living up to my expectations. It looks like it will be a sci fi EPIC! When you see the Space Jockey Seat rise up through the floor i was like at last we are gonna find out how the famous alien started originated. I can't see to clearly but was there an actual shot of a Space Jockey??? I really think and am sure others will agree this is going to be a fantastic edition to the story of alien. We don't need any more alien films. We need to see how these bad boys were created. PROMETHEUS is going to make Alien an even better film butROMETHEUS will be superb!!!

Hmm maybe it crashes on LV426...linking it to Alien..

Perhaps..because we the the ship a couple of times in the trailer and that is alot for a trailer, so he is giving us the reveal we knew would come...maybe they ruined that planet when it crashed on the planet...cause in the trailer, it looks like a clear sky, perhaps something changes the environment? Well, I guess we shall see when the HD trailer hits, be able to see more and go frame by frame...

either way, they gonna "go there". I get goose bumps just waiting for that probable 3.7 seconds of footage and at the end of the film. and all the possibilities it opens up for what "prolly" comes before it. Logic dictates they have to end this thing with the Jockey On LV-426. What better treat than actually showing us the birth from within it of the creatures and then Finally, the Queen "Biiiiaaatch" that do/did/is doing "What she do/did/does" From her Entrance into "Cains Hell Pit" part of it's ship {could that ship even Be "Prometheus" itself...?}......to her actually laying those eggs...to end it perfectly. Also, that scene in which we clearly see what appears to be some encantation of a Xenomorph rising and it clearly appears like it's inside a ship, made me think... If we get to see that ship crash on LV-426, perhaps that ship is "Prometheus" herself, and if it is... ...There has to be a Queen on board !!!

Cross post from another thread - The voice-over at the start (Vickers?) is striking: I wonder if this desperate-sounding transmission might be the source for the "acoustical beacon" referred to in 'Alien'? The only excerpt we hear in that film is in a deleted scene, a whooshing, guttural unintelligible sound - possibly a time-degraded version of Vickers' warning?

It has to be, In fact just running to the store on my Sunday NFL beer run this morning I was Humming that beacon noise like this... "...whoooomp.....whoooomp.....whoooomp.....whoooomp...." ...and then the shivers began and i had goose bumps all the way there and all the way home... Think I will need to be hospitalized if they don't move up the release date.

Oh man, now you want people to think? You're killing us! lol.... Though I tend to think if this took place 30 years before Alien....something would have to occur unless something on this transformed the planet as we see in the trailer, which is clear and unlike the atmosphere in Alien but what if the ship has other things on there that could affect a planet besides the BioWeapon? They are terrafarmers so, they would be able to change the environment? So, this ship crashes on this unlisted planet which becomes to be know in Aliens as LV-426 but I am thinking...the ship in distress and being blown apart will cause some how the planet to shift...though I am probably wrong with this theory but hey, anything goes now until the film comes out..lol

Check this out...The thinking does not stop.... I got "antsy", and went back and called up the PDF on my desktop of the Spaiths script and On the first Page something else hit me like a ton of bricks, don't know how I missed it's importance... There are 2 Human Beings on the planet on which The Growers {Space Jockey's} are over seeing the entire harvest operation right from the get go. "Fin" & "Karik", who's job it is, to squeeze out as many bushels of Crop as possible from each acre of land. I believe Fin even goes on to tell Karik or vice versa that he hasn't been allowed to go anywhere for the "past 8 or 9 years". Which means already we know, if they did not cut out that very first scene Spaiths wrote, that "The Origins Of Life On Earth Issue" involves as part of it's message, that we did not originate on Earth itself or were kidnapped from earth to be slaves on another world by another race of beings...perhaps even the Growers themselves. Human beings are being used as slaves {and probably have been in the "Alien Universe" for a long long long long long time} is what the Prometheus crew more than likely discovers. That's my speculation anyways and I am sticking to it. And speculating even further, the "Accident" that more than likely leads to that "Final Terrifying Conflict" is going to be a Human Being accidently releasing or opening the hole/and/or container that allows the very first XENOMORPHS to collide with our/their worlds.

and taking it even further to prove it's plausibility...right to the end of the timeline in fact... It also fits with how "The Betty's" Crew...comes to discover that the "Auriga" which they have boarded illegally has also been engaging itself in a severely illegal activity... ...The smuggling of Human Hosts for Alien Harvesting. ...and you can therefore assume some of the Slaves to the Growers may have fell victim to such a fate...

I have read everyone else's simulated plots and outlines and speculation but I do not think any of them are as plausible as mine, simply because everyone else has completely stayed and strayed away from the one simple point we got out of all 4 films. Waylund Yutani's Primary Interest in the Xenomorph was and is it's use as a bio-weapon. Every Single thing they did with regard to the time line of these films was Evil, and was done with the sole intention of obtaining a Xenomorph and creating a bio-weapon from it. The stone statue is clearly an Alien created artifact of worship created by an Alien Race in a Man's image. I think an Alien Race which once feared man has flip flopped and now uses mankind as slaves and that this is the Race Of Growers...of which the Space Jockey is/was a member...he's just a Grower...one of many using mankind as slaves to Harvest a planet{S} Prometheus crash landed on LV-426 after an accident involving the crew of Prometheus which triggered the Xenomorphs very existense and appearance if you will...in our world. The final battle will simply be a struggle to keep the Xenomorphs as usual, from ever reaching Earth. The crew of Prometheus is going to discover that mankind has been used as slaves by the Growers perhaps for hundreds or even thousands of years and this will eventually trigger the conflict itself which in turn determines whether or not any of the Alien creatures themselves ever reach Earth. There will have to be a Queen on board Promethues. That's it man. No time travel no, wormhole, no space warp, and I only say that because CLEARLY all of those things just Do Not Fit the story at All. If time travel were even possible they Wayland Yutani company would not be building these massive commercial freighters. They'd be constructing vessels more properly suited for time travel. As for Ash or Bishop or Call, whether either appears in the film is not a sure thing but what is clear is that all of them but more than likely just one of them should be, logic dictates, somehow and as a "plant" on Prometheus. Ripley #8 was Clearly Never created if not for the on going existence of Bishop. Ash has been destroyed completely and his "cell" depleted by Ripley's own hand so it is not likely him. Calls intentions towards Ripley are clearly for her own good, which leaves Bishop..or some entirely New Android we have not been introduced to yet. Again, that's how I see this, and nothing is to say that I am not terribly wrong except for the fact that it fits every single thing Ridley Scott has said about the film so far, and especially the Script by Spaiths which we now know is a big fat part of this thing. But, If I turn out to be wrong I will be the first to admit it, all I want is for the story to make sense and the film to live up to the hype. Something else troubles me too. There are apparently a lot of people out there that want this thing to fail...and many many more people even doubting this film should have been made at all. It is fort this reason that I* think not only will this film be special, it will be one of the moist special films ever made in Science Fiction History, it will be Ripley's slap in the face to EVERYONE that doubted he could do this with any credibility and/or elagance. And IMO The story and the Story Line itself is Everything here. The Character's are everything here, it is how he works.

I agree with the most you did write Spartacus but not on two things 1) forget that Queen ...is not a Scott creature ... if he really want to discard all the alien and Avp movies the first thing to do is to avoid the queen . There is not need for the existence of a queen ...they have already DNA , Engineers , urns ... that will ben enough. 2) they will avoid the same cliche of the "bad" company that sacrifice people for money ... and btw what the WY do will be totally disjointed from other movies except the first Alien .

In retrospect and because I agree completely that, the Queen idea is not the most probable, one never knows, but I do think a reference however small at the very least will need to be made to the fact a Queen is/was on board Prometheus, had to be for the events which occurred afterward on LV-426 to maintain their credibility and still make sense. I would love it if they could in fact "avoid the Bad Company" mentality I would love that, but they still have to do it in a way that maintains the credibility for the film "Alien" at the very least, and that in and of itself infers some conspiracy to exploit the creature as is 100% represented in the character of "ASH". ASH was clearly a part of a larger plot to weaponize the creatures capabilities, and was a perceived Pre-Events-Of-The-Nostromo-Plant by the company itself...no...?.... Just making sure they can cut all that out without disturbing the integrity of the first film.

I think things will be more simple - they go to discover the origins of mankind ...the voyage is organized by the only corporation that can afford that , the Weyland , expecially for the willing of Vickers ( that explaing the "im so sorry" ) -they find a civilization that loved to experiments with DNA ( science gone mad ) , they are sick and perverts ( no no no theron nude with tentacles ...i mean in a scientific way ) ..part of the crew belive them as "gods" the other as "pervs" - bad things start to happen - the company ask Vickers to get back some samples ...she disobey cos she understood the evil nature of them .... - all the crew get clear that the space jockeys are evil but is too late for many of them ..also the aliens get angry and they menace to destroy earth ... - the last of the crew fight them back and win even if probably no one survive ... the SJs spaceship fall on the LV426 - at the Weyland HQ they notice that the last trasmissions from the crew were from a far solar sistem , they plan that sooner or later they will make a visit there . still there is the alien warning signal that is the only real link between prometheus and Alien ... a last effort from the crew of the jockeys maybe

OK...i have no inside info on the film. But I honestly think a "queen" is not going to be involved. I've mentioned it before and I'll do so again...I believe the events/mythology of "Aliens", "Alien 3", "Alien Resurrection", "AVP", & "AVP 2", will all be ignored AND contradicted (i.e. ALIEN MYTHOLOGY REBOOT). Or, at best, the sequels may not be contradicted directly, but won't even be referenced. Just my opinion (and my wish). While I may like and even love some of these sequels, they do not match up with the tone/intention of the first film. I love "Aliens" as a sci-fi action movie and love the fact that it gave way to great novels, comic books, toys, and video games. But is an entirely different film than the original ALIEN. Not only in the type of movie it is, but also in its originality. On the "LEAKED" Script by Spaiths... I did not like (again just my opinion). And frankly I don't think that script has any ties what-so-ever to the final script. I just don't think it something Ridley would do. Furthermore we have NO proof that the leaked script is a "[i]big fat part[/i]" of the final script. Why or where would anyone infer that from? Just because the final script was confirmed to have been a modified version of "AN" original script by Spaiths does not mean that the "Leaked" script WE read was THE ACTUAL original script written by Spaiths. (Not to mention that Spaiths SAID the leaked "Harvest" script was a fake.) But lets say for a moment that the leaked script most of us have read is the actual original script written by Spaiths (Despite his dismissal of it). What we do know for sure is that that script has undergone a rewrite by Lindelof. Chances are that the rewrite completely changed the original script. All I'm saying is...don't hang your hopes on the leaked harvest script...I don't think much from it will make it into the final film we'll all be seeing next June.

I have to agree with "draekus". Scott is going in his direction and has no intention of mentioning or even think about the other films in the chain. Scott is creating a stand lone film that will explain the mystery of "Alien" we all have been asking for many years but I believe that he as a writer is not going in the direction of Aliens..though independently it was a good action film.,Scott is doing what Nolan did for Batman....a clean slate so to speak. I am glad that Scott is ignoring the other films ,as i would do in his position. I want the mystery of Alien to be kept in the dark. The more you dont see, the more frightened you will be and with Prometheus, he will do the same, scare the pants off you. I do imagine jumping into the arms of my girl when I see this movie...lol

today a great movie news site like Aint it Cool ( well it WAS a great site ) is giving alot of space to a prometheus script they say its probably real ... im almost sure its a total fake becuase 1) is around on the net for more that 3 months 2) it have Ben Foster still in cast ! 3) it suck . That say alot on the total confusion that there is on the movie :D

@Frantz If I'm not mistaken, that synopsis was the same one posted in these forums yesterday ( or a couple of days ago). I think it was a speculation by a forum member. If so I think that's hilarious that it's making it's rounds around the Internet already and ended up on Aintitcoolnews as an actual synopsis.

~Frantz, ...part of the crew belive them as "gods" the other as "pervs" LMFAO.. Your whole post made good sense but cutting it to the point the way I think exactly had me laughing put loud. ~Spartacus, Ridley doesn't care about the other 3 movies. What happened in them weren't in thought when puting this together in my opinion. Ridley only cares about his baby...Alien, and he didn't even want to call this a prequel. Also my friend, in other posts you keep falling off the map about Weyland and time travel. The time travel deal is about the Jockeys Technology, not Weyland. Come back to earth my friend, your half way to Zeta on your way to an overdose.

Someone mentioned the transmission in the beginning of the trailer; i think its pretty clearly Noomi Rapace aka Elizabeth Shaw saying those lines. On a different note, im going to a Live interviewing of Charlize Theron next weekend, cant wait!! Vickers will be right in front of me, I should wear my Weyland shirt and have her autograph it lol :))

Some good thoughts there Spartacus. I think the slave theory is plausible. It has been hinted that this would be a gruesome movie and we know Scott is having trouble with the cert rating. Alien had an 18s rating but that probably wouldnt apply today. Consider this. The breeding of humans as fodder for the xenos or possibly to develope the ultimate xeno. Maybe inter breeding. Look at Gigers work some pretty mad stuff there and a lot of it sexually based. So the urns are in fact the basis for human production. On lv426 I reckon its just a last second shot of the jockey ship crashing on the planet and the xeno coming out of the pilot. The trailer seems to show well formed planets with even blue skies. Any terraforming on lv426 would have been found in Alien or Aliens. There was mention of a second prequel last year so we may be left with some questions still when this is all done.

loved what you all wrote. not saying that we will see a queen just that there had to have been one on whatever ship it was that crashed on LV-426. it is the suggestion and integrity of it that should be maintained IMO. they could just end the film with the ship crashing and that would be fine. Also, Scott is in fact using the Spaiths script and applied changes to it suggested by Damon Lindelof and himself to create a new story with a broader view of the Alien universe and including an ending in which the last 8 minutes will be familiar to fans of the Alien Franchise and contain "Strands of "Alien" DNA. I believe Scott cares very much about all 4 of the other films and that they're integrity is important to him as well. I also think their are countless other people who surrounded those 4 films and are surrounding this one that care very much about these things as well...in fact...I believe Scott himself stayed away from the idea of doing this project or any similar project before it because of how upset he was that the "AVP" films got made at all, That Fox got involved the way they did and that He, they, all want to restore some of the old glory of the original ALIEN film. I believe the ideas you all came up with are fantastic and I like most of them better than mine... ..all the same I think it will be a lot simpler and have more to do with the same old "Stop The Xenos" idea than it will anything completely new. ..and in Spaiths' script... ... one of the things I do not see them changing, Is the Growers Planet, and the discovery of human beings being exploited as slaves for HARVESTING this world and the uncovering of the first incantation of the "Xenomorph" species on it. To me this is more than likely where Scott went.

Before I continue, I need to take a moment to say I really enjoy this community forum and specifically this conversation. Its nice to be able to come to a site and talk with people who are as moved/excited by these movies as I am. OK back on topic... On Ridley and sequels: I have no doubt that Ridley values and appreciates the sequels. (Even if he didn't he probably wouldn't admit to it publicly out of respect/professionalism for everyone involved in making those movies.) What I (and I think others) am/are saying is that while Ridley may respect the other sequels, he may not have the same conceptual/artistic/story-telling views as those that created the sequels. Just as, for example, Cameron expanded, and in a way, steered away from some one the concepts originated by Ridley in the original film, I think Ridley will do the same with Prometheus. But heck, I could be wrong and for all I know he may work the "Queen" into the story in an intelligent way that makes the Alien species less insect-like and more "ALIEN". On the Spaiths Script: I know it has been confirmed (fact) that the final script IS a modified/re-written version of AN original script by Spaiths. I am just saying that there is no way we fans (at this time) can prove that the "LEAKED - HARVEST SCRIPT" was indeed the actual script that was first written by Spaiths and then modified/rewritten by Lindelof. For all we know that "Leaked Harvest Script" was written by a fan and passed off as "THE" original Spaiths script. While I do not like the Harvest Script, I have to specify that I do not like it for an "ALIEN" movie as directed by Ridley. I do, however, think the Harvest script would make for a decent "Twilight Zone/Outer Limits-like" TV episode or mini series. I just personally don't want to see that script as the Prometheus script or as any script related to Ridley's original Alien.

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Micro wrote - " It has been hinted that this would be a gruesome movie and we know Scott is having trouble with the cert rating. " Yes, and I wondered if he'd even release a 2D R cut and 3D PG-ish cut. There's a brief shot in the trailer where a lady is undergoing something horrendous, screaming "PLEEEASE!" - I wonder if this will be this film's equivalent of the chestburster "audience shocker" moment. R