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Gavin
MemberTrilobite12/8/2011A couple of times in my posts I have referred to the fact that Prometheus only features the Yutani Corporation, not Weyland nor Weyland-Yutani. Yet surprisingly no-one has commented on this despite the fact that many members of these forums cite either Weryland Industries or Weyland-Yutani Corporation within the upcoming Prometheus.
I know a few of you are probably getting ready to cite references or quotes at me to prove that I am wrong. So I will prove my point with pictures.
This is a close-up cropped image of the logo seen on the airlock picture released a while back, it is the same logo seen on the RT-01 vehicle and on Idris Elba's t-shirt.
[IMG]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/Yutanilogo.jpg[/IMG]
Whereas this is the Weyalnd-Yutani logo first seen in Aliens, and has been featured in Alien 3, as well as countless comics and video games.
[IMG]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/250px-Weyland-yutani.jpg[/IMG]
Unfortunately I was unable to find a decent image of the Weyland Industries logo seen in AVP, but to remind you all, it was just the W from the Weyland-Yutani logo above.
Now looking at the image from Prometheus it is clear to see that the three triangular shapes that make up the centre are similar if not identical to those making up the Y in the Weyland-Yutani logo. However, the W is missing. Instead we have three stripes either side of the Y, in a visage of wings. This is merely for decoration only, without these wings the three triangular shapes making up the Y would look very bland as a corporate logo.
Proof beyond doubt that Prometheus only features the Yutani Corporation, thus the merger with Weyland Industries has not yet occurred within the time in which Prometheus is set.
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Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/8/2011Don't you guys see what I mean?...from what I posted there were Never two companys that murged, we all just assumed that, it was One Company with a funky Made Up company name to begin with to make it sound that way.

Tec-B
MemberOvomorph12/8/2011yeah, from the pre AVP continuity it would have seemed like it was always "the company" were weyland and yutani were partners, it was the AVP films that established separate companies. That's if we include them as canon. Personally I think that those are a separate universe with the same characters, in fact (Purely IMO) they have more in common with comic continuity because at the end of the day they were"(by popular request" films due to the success of the comic series. I would discount them completely to be honest until we know what new canon will be established. for all we know (Groundless Speculation alert!) they could be the same corp by this stage (or always) but with Weyland being say an aerospace/weapons division (W with wings) and Yutani being a scientific division.

Gavin
MemberTrilobite12/8/2011Arghhh its Y with wings IMO lol.
Tec-B is right though, this idea of a merger comes from popular speculation and the AVP films, which may or may not be canon, although I believe they are.
The comics are an "extended universe" that is not canon, but still came up with some good ideas such as the Royal Jelly.
Regards whether the merger idea is valid or not remains to be seen and may or may not be answered in Prometheus, but I do like the idea that we came to - of the two separate companies working with/against each other to discover the secrets to humanities beginnings.

Mala'kak
MemberOvomorph12/8/2011My take is that the weylan-yutani "joke" is a very dark one. To clarify I'm predicting we see the pieces start to fall into place for the merger and never get the full merger within this film.
I am pretty sure in all of Ridley's years of occasionally commenting on wanting to explore the space jockey's origins that he also at one point mentions how it was in fact just the Weylan company at one point. IMO this is his baby, and all the misdirection is just to ensure we are totally surprised by what we see.
What I took from the combined name thing was that they wanted to create a name that would evoke the merging of two world powers to represent the coming together of some of the world nations under the corporations, Hence an English sounding name + a Japanese one and then the hints to the American military industrial complex presence in space and full out appearance when Cameron takes over in Aliens. Ridley seems to like to convey the idea that all-powerful corporations will rule us and do terrible things in the future. Heck people already think it's happening right now. Perhaps this is the jumping off point from which all the other expanded stuff is derived.
I still see it as a joke because he based it on the real name of something British and combined it with a Japanese name and they had to change the first part 'cause it was something really from Great Britain. So two of the worlds most powerful kingdoms coming together, or two huge corporations coming together. Regardless I think it is supposed to mirror the creator's and Ridley's fear about multinationals taking over even back in the 1970's. Part of why we get hints that the company's evil but it's usually only from Ripley's perspective (she's the only one who sees who they truly serve and repeatedly accuses them of trying to acquire it for weapons). It's supposed to be like a heartless multinational corporation, not adhering to the same laws in every country, and then in space there are no laws. Only the competitors and shares to keep the whole machine going.
It's all there with the Japanese bringing the advanced spacecrafts to the table. Of course that's just my opinion, like I said all the stuff about the multinationals ruling Earth at one point could just spring from that.

Gavin
MemberTrilobite12/8/2011An idea that was continued in Firefly/Serenity, the meeting of east and west, or as Muse put it the United States of Eurasia.

Ripley Clone 8
MemberOvomorph12/8/2011Not surprising considering this is a prequel and not a sequel. From what Fox said, if Prometheus is a success they will most likely expand further and make a series and then maybe in later films we as an audience will discover how the unity of Weyland and Yutani began.
http://i.imgur.com/vbAPQY6.gif

Gavin
MemberTrilobite01/24/2012Before anyone else snips in in this is a perfect lesson in humility, back then I was so sure I was right and then i was proved wrong. Happens to the best of us.

Sebastian Zander
MemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 3:08 PMHere you have it: [url=http://www.weylandindustries.com]weylandindustries.com[/url]
It is in fact the logo of Weyland Industries, yet before the fusion with Yutani.
By the way: The W isn't missing, it is just not built by the triangles but by the spaces between them ;)

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteFeb-28-2012 3:16 PMdid you not read my previous post, admitting I had got it wrong [sigh], also this is an old, dead thread!!! Locking

Sebastian Zander
MemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 3:22 PMI didn't think that you meant to be wrong regarding your actual assumption, since I didn't find any counter evidence to your assumption in this thread so far. Sorry.

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteFeb-28-2012 3:28 PMwhat as in me saying I was wrong well before the new video was released in the post (dated 24th Jan 2012) before your first ever post.

Sebastian Zander
MemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 3:37 PMYes, but you wrote "back then I was so sure I was right and then i was proved wrong. Happens to the best of us.", what can be relating to any other of your previous posts and not necessarily your initial assumption. And as I said, since I didn't find any official counter evidence to your assumption in this yet open thread (which I found by Google), I only wanted to give it this final piece of clarification for new visitors (like me) to come.

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteFeb-28-2012 3:43 PMIt was referring to my initial assumption, hence the lack of activity in the thread since that post
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