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Thadus 12
MemberOvomorph12/10/2011Any reference to any of the films that came after Alien
And please no Queen Ants!

Frantz
MemberOvomorph12/10/2011what i fear the most is a bad script ..for all the rest ive faith in the class of ridley scott .
oh yes well i fear a bad ending ...i can accept half bad endings ( like the mist ) but total bad endings make me feel a masochist ...

Thadus 12
MemberOvomorph12/10/2011Time travel and the rumoured Ripley flashback
Any over-obvious CGI effects

Biomechanic
MemberOvomorph12/10/2011Off the top of my head:
1. Friendly space jockeys.
2. Sappy love story.
3. Shia LaBeouf somehow makes a surprise cameo.
EDIT: Oops I didn't expect yall to post so fast.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/10/2011seriously though,
With Giger and Scott Having so much more creative control this time around,
I say this with all due respect to all of you cause you people all know more than the average movie goer but...
I really do not think most people truly understand just what these two guys have just done for FILM or the extent of just how absolutely Mind Numbingly Incredible what we are all about to see is !!!
This movie is FLAT OUT going to be the best damn sci-fi flick perhaps EVER MADE and maybe, at that, one of Hollywood's all time most successful films when all is said and done!!!
With these two guys having been flagged for it from the start what we have here is a Film that Cannot Fail...it just can't !!!
I think These two men have just done some things that are going to BLOW ALL OF OUR MINDS AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE A NEW APPRECIATION FOR THIS ART FORM !!!

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/10/2011Ditto,
I did too Biomechanic.
But this, in a way IMO only, is different, because of the nature of the minds of the 2 men in question here and the people they surround themselves with when they do this kind of thing.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/10/2011"Shia LaBeouf cameo"
Yep...that would ruin this film for me right there !!!
LMFAO !!!
Good one !!!

Ruhaniya
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorph12/10/2011If there are no engineers that are smoking pot. Or at least some reference to advertise and legalize. Ahh fuck that let's keep it criminal eh! That's why they invented armored buldowzers and nano bots for your brain

spacyfreak
MemberOvomorph12/11/2011- I hate very most CGI Monsters. You SEE that its not real, no matter how many millions they invest in it.
- please no love story!
- please no Russel Crowe! I am so happy with M. Fassbender.. great actor
- please give me some aliens. I want to know who and how they were created
- no need for the old facehugger story. Nice one on the first parts of aliens - but not the same horror again and again...

Juxtapose
MemberOvomorph12/11/2011What I fear the most is a super confusing plot line with tuns of timetravel....i'm pretty sure I will watch this movie many times ...but I don't want it to be cause i did not understand just WTF happened after watching it the first time. I just want a deep, thought provoking and disturbing horror story in space...not something with a plot that jumps back and fourth.
I don't mind CGI...but their is good and bad CGI in my opinion...they must just not overdo it.
I definitely would like to see some xeno's ...even if it's only towards the end of the story...I don't mind if they look slightly different in concept....would be refreshing to see an altered xeno!
I am hoping for tuns of gore as well!

Tec-B
MemberOvomorph12/11/2011I would like to think we're safe from bad CGI, Ridley is known to use it to enhance the physical sets, not replace them altogether (george lucas, I'm looking at you). Look at Black Hawk Down and Gladiator, they were full of CGI but it was done the right way, so it wasn't obvious.
I'm not necessarily hoping for tons of gore, looking at alien, with the exception of a few scenes, it really wasn't that gory. The chestburster yes, but after that we never really saw anything, it was always off camera or the aftermath of an attack, Ridley let our minds do the work. The scariest film i ever saw had virtually no violence, gore, sex or swearing.
I think the thing about Alien and Aliens was, they both drove the franchise forward. Alien was first and established the concept, Aliens was a different kind of film (war film in space compared to psychological horror) but added to the concept. and had new ideas. all the cinematic cut of ALien 3 and Res did was tread old territory.
what would i hate to see? Sigourney Weaver having anything to do with this film even in cameo. She's had her time. Stupidly and cheesily tacked on fanboy demands, like for example the predalien in predator (lets face it AVP's series was a result of fanboy demands). What works in a comic will not necessarily work on film. Rehashing of things like the powerloader (this is our new PL-3 billion combat exoskeleton protoytpe, oh you mean the powerloaders originally came from a military application?), human technology looking more advanced than it did in the original films (sudden inexplicable holographic monitors etc). Too much of a good thing i.e. seeing to much of the jockeys, 'morphs, jockey tech in action etc etc

Gavin
MemberTrilobite12/11/2011Tec-B is right, Ridley Scott has always said "If you can do it in-camera, do it in-camera". He has always been an avid supporter of physical visual effects. Yes, in recent years he has used CGI, but he has only ever used it for elements that could not or weren't viable to be done practically (the stadium in Gladiator, the crash in Black Hawk Down).
What I think we will see is elements that Ridley discusses in the DVD commentary for Alien, that he would have liked to do first time round - the omni-sexuality of a deep space crew, the more perverse elements of the xeno's behaviour, the pyramid and urn idea, the benign nature of the SJ's, the creation of the xeno's by the SJ's, the selfish and deviant nature of a corporate future, the sexual wantings of androids etc.
Speaking of which, on that last point, we have all seen the still of Theron/Rapace in hypersleep with someones hand on the cryotube... I have a strong belief that hand belongs to David (Michael Fassbender) the android, and that he holds secret sexual feelings for the woman in that cryotube, whom I suspect will be Shaw (Noomi Rapace) and I suspect is backed up by the recent HQ still where David looks in Shaws direction in the ampule room with adoration in his eyes. I sort of echo of the "magazine" scene in Alien, if you will.

Tec-B
MemberOvomorph12/11/2011actually the sexual aspect of androids is intereting, we know from aliens that older models were "twitchy" perhaps older models than was present in Alien were more twitchy again, maybe early models were made "too human" which results in a dehumanising of the the models to the point that we see Bishop in Aliens. Perhaps the whole thing with ash and the rolled up magazine (ridleys equivalent of android sex) was a leftover glitch from the attempts to eradicate thhat portion of their programming
Also I'd hate to see outright "Friendly" or "Evil" jockeys, would like to see some depth there, like for example "benevolent but jealous" or "Benign to a point but intolerent of competition"

Gavin
MemberTrilobite12/11/2011Ah, But then we have Call that had everone, including Ripley fooled into believing she was human.
I think the SJ's will be shown to be benign, but indifferent. We are after all a primitive species compared to them.

Tec-B
MemberOvomorph12/11/2011yep but Call was a machine designed by machines, which is why the line was shut down, they became too human.
Benign but indifferent would be fine, they don't harm us but don't help us either. All though i think a jealous "these humans are getting to close to us" idea would be interesting

spacyfreak
MemberOvomorph12/11/2011I would not like to see "who is the bad guy, who is the good guy" though most people like it "simple" and "clear". But life is not simple and clear, its very complicated.
Good and bad is just a point of view, an illusion created from mankind.
Nature (and universe.) does not care or know about "good or bad".
As the Joker said "i just DO things". So the engineers just "do" things, which are basically not bad or good. They just DO things.
It does not really exist - and definitely not at the other end of a wormhole!

Tec-B
MemberOvomorph12/11/2011that's very lovecraftian and would be awesome to see, and i hope ridley does do that. Unfortunately studio's very much do have a concept of good and bad when it comes to films.. 95% of the time the good guy must be obviously good. Even Antiheroes which shouldn't be good or bad as such still manage to come out clearly dilineated. I have faith in Ridley though, he should have more than enough clout to be allowed to make the film as he see's fit
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