What would dissapoint you the most?
December 11, 2011
- I hate very most CGI Monsters. You SEE that its not real, no matter how many millions they invest in it.
- please no love story!
- please no Russel Crowe! I am so happy with M. Fassbender.. great actor
- please give me some aliens. I want to know who and how they were created
- no need for the old facehugger story. Nice one on the first parts of aliens - but not the same horror again and again...
December 11, 2011
What I fear the most is a super confusing plot line with tuns of timetravel....i'm pretty sure I will watch this movie many times ...but I don't want it to be cause i did not understand just WTF happened after watching it the first time. I just want a deep, thought provoking and disturbing horror story in space...not something with a plot that jumps back and fourth.
I don't mind CGI...but their is good and bad CGI in my opinion...they must just not overdo it.
I definitely would like to see some xeno's ...even if it's only towards the end of the story...I don't mind if they look slightly different in concept....would be refreshing to see an altered xeno!
I am hoping for tuns of gore as well!
December 11, 2011
I would like to think we're safe from bad CGI, Ridley is known to use it to enhance the physical sets, not replace them altogether (george lucas, I'm looking at you). Look at Black Hawk Down and Gladiator, they were full of CGI but it was done the right way, so it wasn't obvious.
I'm not necessarily hoping for tons of gore, looking at alien, with the exception of a few scenes, it really wasn't that gory. The chestburster yes, but after that we never really saw anything, it was always off camera or the aftermath of an attack, Ridley let our minds do the work. The scariest film i ever saw had virtually no violence, gore, sex or swearing.
I think the thing about Alien and Aliens was, they both drove the franchise forward. Alien was first and established the concept, Aliens was a different kind of film (war film in space compared to psychological horror) but added to the concept. and had new ideas. all the cinematic cut of ALien 3 and Res did was tread old territory.
what would i hate to see? Sigourney Weaver having anything to do with this film even in cameo. She's had her time. Stupidly and cheesily tacked on fanboy demands, like for example the predalien in predator (lets face it AVP's series was a result of fanboy demands). What works in a comic will not necessarily work on film. Rehashing of things like the powerloader (this is our new PL-3 billion combat exoskeleton protoytpe, oh you mean the powerloaders originally came from a military application?), human technology looking more advanced than it did in the original films (sudden inexplicable holographic monitors etc). Too much of a good thing i.e. seeing to much of the jockeys, 'morphs, jockey tech in action etc etc
December 11, 2011
Tec-B is right, Ridley Scott has always said "If you can do it in-camera, do it in-camera". He has always been an avid supporter of physical visual effects. Yes, in recent years he has used CGI, but he has only ever used it for elements that could not or weren't viable to be done practically (the stadium in Gladiator, the crash in Black Hawk Down).
What I think we will see is elements that Ridley discusses in the DVD commentary for Alien, that he would have liked to do first time round - the omni-sexuality of a deep space crew, the more perverse elements of the xeno's behaviour, the pyramid and urn idea, the benign nature of the SJ's, the creation of the xeno's by the SJ's, the selfish and deviant nature of a corporate future, the sexual wantings of androids etc.
Speaking of which, on that last point, we have all seen the still of Theron/Rapace in hypersleep with someones hand on the cryotube... I have a strong belief that hand belongs to David (Michael Fassbender) the android, and that he holds secret sexual feelings for the woman in that cryotube, whom I suspect will be Shaw (Noomi Rapace) and I suspect is backed up by the recent HQ still where David looks in Shaws direction in the ampule room with adoration in his eyes. I sort of echo of the "magazine" scene in Alien, if you will.
December 11, 2011
actually the sexual aspect of androids is intereting, we know from aliens that older models were "twitchy" perhaps older models than was present in Alien were more twitchy again, maybe early models were made "too human" which results in a dehumanising of the the models to the point that we see Bishop in Aliens. Perhaps the whole thing with ash and the rolled up magazine (ridleys equivalent of android sex) was a leftover glitch from the attempts to eradicate thhat portion of their programming
Also I'd hate to see outright "Friendly" or "Evil" jockeys, would like to see some depth there, like for example "benevolent but jealous" or "Benign to a point but intolerent of competition"
December 11, 2011
yep but Call was a machine designed by machines, which is why the line was shut down, they became too human.
Benign but indifferent would be fine, they don't harm us but don't help us either. All though i think a jealous "these humans are getting to close to us" idea would be interesting
December 11, 2011
I would not like to see "who is the bad guy, who is the good guy" though most people like it "simple" and "clear". But life is not simple and clear, its very complicated.
Good and bad is just a point of view, an illusion created from mankind.
Nature (and universe.) does not care or know about "good or bad".
As the Joker said "i just DO things". So the engineers just "do" things, which are basically not bad or good. They just DO things.
It does not really exist - and definitely not at the other end of a wormhole!
December 11, 2011
that's very lovecraftian and would be awesome to see, and i hope ridley does do that. Unfortunately studio's very much do have a concept of good and bad when it comes to films.. 95% of the time the good guy must be obviously good. Even Antiheroes which shouldn't be good or bad as such still manage to come out clearly dilineated. I have faith in Ridley though, he should have more than enough clout to be allowed to make the film as he see's fit
December 11, 2011
@ SF - I think you have a point, It may not be how the SJ's are portrayed, but more how they are percieved by the humans/androids that will leave us with the question - are the SJ's a helpful race, a deviant race or an indifferent race.
As obi-wan said "what I told you was true, from a certain point of view", it is always about perspective.
December 11, 2011
I just hope to God this film doesn't end up like the prequel to 'The Thing'...
Show us more of the remote, cold worlds that birthed the first film but don't tell us everything.
December 11, 2011
that was supposedly just badly handled though, its not knowing or exposition that's bad, its the restrospective thought later on when you realise the backstory wasn't as good as you thought it would be
December 11, 2011
1.) Poor acting from Theron
2.) Overused CG
3.) Any of the crew members surviving in unrealistic circumstances
4.) Any poorly handled (too obvious) reference to Alien
5.) Anyone mentioning the words; "Nostromo", or "Ripley"
6.) A facehugger, chestburster, original Xeno or Queen making an appearance
December 11, 2011
I agree Mentos, one thing I hate if not the most is when a sequel or prequel or any film thats related to another series rips off classic scenes from the film or tries to rein-act the same scene/scenes over again. I have faith and trust in Ridley that he will make something original. The fact that H.R. Giger came back to do the set design and creature effects is also a plus. Ridley is a genius and an incredible filmmaker, so I'm not very concerned with any kind of poor scripting or acting. I'm pretty sure as well that there most likely won't be any references put into the movie regarding "Ripley" or the "Nostromo" nor any of the other plot elements from the other Alien movies, considering that the storyline in Prometheus takes place 30 years before the birth of Ellen Ripley. The only possible plot element they could use is the planet LV-426 where the Space Jockey and the derelict ship landed in the first Alien film and even then the Space Jockey is dead due to an Alien bursting out of its chest.
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December 11, 2011
To see the filmmakers changing the film based on things people say in this thread or others. No compromise.
December 11, 2011
Pg13 will ruin this film, and fact that they've been flirting with it to allow teenies to be able to watch it is more scary than any plot they could come up with
December 14, 2011
Any reference to the AVP films will fuck me off big time.
Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well.