Alien: Earth and Alien: Romulus sequel news

Space Jockeys Signal

2835 Views53 Replies
Forum Topic

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteJanuary 02, 2012
I am currently watching Alien and have just come to the bit where Lambert plays the signal they pick up from the derelict... Firstly upon hearing it I don't think that this is Shaw's message from Prometheus, they don't sound in anyway similar, but that is not why I've posted... During the transmission, near the end of the signal, there is an out of place noise. This noise to me sounds like the whipping noise a Facehugger makes when attacking a host, therefore I believe that the Jockey sent out this signal moments before and as he was being attacked by the Facehugger.

User Avatar
Spartacus
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
AND AGAIN, first of all i have tons of humility.... and again, and again, and again, I insist it is not a WARNING OR AN S.O.S. AND IF IT HAS TO BE ONE IT IS MORE THAN LIKELY NOT A WARNING BUT RATHER AN S.O.S. WHAT YOU JUST WROTE IS PROOF OF THAT! AND YOU SLAMMED ME FOR SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING... I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH WHAT YOU WROTE RIGHT HERE... "Thus is it not plausible to accept that a Space Jockey about to meet his end flying a vessel filled with thousands of deadly creatures would issue [b]a warning[/b] in the hope that it would prevent anyone from meeting the same fate. IT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID NOT A WARNING, CANNOT BE SOME RANDOM MESSAGE INTENDED FOR THE UNIVERSE.... IT IS EITHER AN S.O.S OR MORE THAN LIKELY A STRAIGHT OUT CRY FOR ASSISTANCE FROM HIS FELLOW ENGINEER'S!!! LASLTY, I POSTED ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION YESTERDAY IN FACT THAT CLEARLY SUGGESTS THIS FILM IS ABOUT A RACE OF ENGINEER'S WHO ARE TERRAFORMING PLANETS IN ORDER TO CREATE THE PERFECT BIO-MECHANICAL WEAPON AND AS SOON AS ANYONE AND I DO MEAN ANYONE POSTS ANYTHIG EVEN REMOTLEY CLOSE TO BEING AS COMPLETELY PLAUSIBEL AS THAT IS, I WILL JUMP ON BIARD WITH ALL OF MY HUMILITY!!! ALSO, WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO SEE TO CONVINCE YOU THE ENGINEERS ARE CREATING XENOMORPHS EXACTLY????????????????????? ALSO, THE XENOMORPHS CANNOT POSSIBLEY ESCAPE OR BE ALIVE ON THE DERLICT UNTIL THE DERELICT LANDS AND THE JOCKEY INITIATES THE SEQUENCES NEEDED TO OPEN AND CONVERT/UNLOCK THE CODE OF THEIR CONTENTS INTO LIVING XENOMORPHS...THERE IS AN EXTREMELY HIGH PROBABILITY THAT THE CARGO IS AMPULES AND AMPULES THAT ARE CAPABLE AFTERWARDS OF BEING CONVERTED INTO EGGS FOR FACEHUGGERS!!! ALSO JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR IF IA M WRONG IN ANY WAY WHAT SO EVER I WILL BE FOIRST OINE HERE TO ADMIT IT I AM MOST HUMBLE PERSON AND WHATS MOST MIND BLOWING IS THAT YOU POSTED THAT YOURSELF AND STILL DON'T REALIZE WHAT IT MEANS...THAT'S A XENO MAN, WHY IS THAT A XENO, WHY IS IT ON THE PROMETHEUS IF IT'S A XENO, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE THE CREW STOLE SOME OF THE AMPULES !!! LIKE I SAID AS SOON AS I SEE ANYTHING CLOSE TO A MORE PLAUSIBLE EXPLANTION I WILL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT HOW WRONG I WAS!!! BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I AM PRETTY SURE OF ALL THIS!!!
User Avatar
melodywhore
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
really now... what's with all of this talk of humility? this is the internet!
User Avatar
Gavin
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile
Okay lets try out your theory on humility... Billions of years ago the Space Jockey’s ventured into deep space, optimistically expecting to witness a wealth of intelligent, civilised species amongst the stars. Instead, they discovered a universe almost void of intelligence, with only a few worlds ruled by natural conflict and incestuous propagation. Using their vast knowledge of genetics the Space Jockey’s created a means of seeding barren worlds with life, that would develop, flourish and evolve into complicated biological life forms, and through both design and evolution that life would develop into a predestined intelligent race. After millennia of observations, the Space Jockey’s learnt that the chances of a planet siring an intelligent race increased when the life on these worlds had to adapt and evolve to a radically altered environment, ecosystem and food chain caused by a near-extinction event. To trigger such circumstances artificially the Space Jockey’s once again utilised their extensive biological knowledge and manufactured a deadly biological life form, a race of genetically engineered weapons, and the perfect organism. Designed to propagate using suitable hosts from an alien world’s indigenous population, extrapolating DNA to adapt to environmental conditions during gestation, these deadly biomechanical weapons improved upon their own perfection, eradicating entire and ecosystems. Billions of years ago primordial Earth was visited by an ancient bio-mechanical race known as the Space Jockey’s, whom artificially seeded life upon the barren planet. The genetic structure of the life was encoded, through the process of selective evolution, to sire an intelligent mammalian, simian race – Humans. Before leaving the fledgling Earth the Space Jockey’s left behind an artefact intended for the Humans, to guide them to a distant world and the truth regards their origins. 65 million years ago, unhappy that the natural course of evolution on Earth had not sired the predestined intelligent species they had planned, the Space Jockey’s deployed Xenomorph eggs on Earth, subsequently eliminating over three quarters of the indigenous life on the planet. Once all suitable hosts had been exhausted and only the Xenomorph Eggs remained, the Space Jockey’s retrieved the eggs and destroyed all evidence of the Xenomorph infestation. Over the next 65 million years, the indigenous life on Earth adapted and recovered, eventually giving rise to Humans. 2085 - Humans find the hidden artefact and head to the destination shown. Upon arrival they find a vast temple filled with ampules and a large icon in the visage of a human head. They also find the remains of a dead Space Jockey and take its skull along with one of the ampules back to their ship for study. Studying the skull they find it to be very, very old (billions/millions of years) and studying the contents of the ampules they find it contains the genetic building blocks capable of creating life. Realising the potential of the contents within the urns the "suits" of the crew decide to keep it for their own gain, with predictably distastrous results. Meanwhile, alerted to the fact that the humans have stolen one of the ampules a Space Jockey pilot is awoken from a long sleep to stop the humans. Unaware of the effects of centuries/millenia of neglect to its ship and cargo of xenomorphs, the Space Jockey heads to LV-426 not aware of the fact that the measures put in place to protect it from its deadly cargo have failed/are failing. Entering the atmosphere of LV-426 the Derelict is attacked by the humans causing it to crash and unsettles the eggs, one of which in turn hatches. The hatched Facehugger heads towards the pilot, triggering an alarm and alerting the pilot to his negletive error. realising he has mere seconds left before the inevitable happens the pilot records a beacon message, warning any and all intelligent life away from the deadly cargo the ship carries. 12 seconds later the message is cut short as the facehugger attacks the pilot. The 12 second signal is then automatically repeated from that point on. Is this not another possibility, that is just as plausible as the one you defend an attest to. Doesn't mean mine is right and yours is wrong, or vice versa. Plausibility can go in many directions.

User Avatar
Spartacus
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
wow that's a brilliant theory, complicated but nothing less than Brilliant and there's one idea in there that I find so exciting I am shivering and I have to say Thank you for writing it if it really was you that came up with this idea because IMO of all 6-8 alien films total so far, whatever that number is, this idea.... [b]65 million years ago, unhappy that the natural course of evolution on Earth had not sired the predestined intelligent species they had planned, the Space Jockey’s deployed Xenomorph eggs on Earth, subsequently eliminating over three quarters of the indigenous life on the planet. Once all suitable hosts had been exhausted and only the Xenomorph Eggs remained, the Space Jockey’s retrieved the eggs and destroyed all evidence of the Xenomorph infestation. Over the next 65 million years, the indigenous life on Earth adapted and recovered, eventually giving rise to Humans.[/b] is the best damn idea to NOT come out of all of them it is ten times better than any scenerio all of those movies even filmed and included it is shear and utter brilliance!!! I Love it !!! Highly complicated and you MOST SADLY are not writing for the film, and at the same time "prolly" very hard to film but well worth doing and I hope that's what we see in the film. I really really do... because once again I Love it!!! I also absolutely love that it tosses up a huge salad bowl full of righteous and perfect explanations for the extinction of the Dinosaurs! and also, who's to say what we suspect were T-Rex's or Raptors, we're not actually Xenomorphs ? Brilliant man, just absolutely brilliant !!!
User Avatar
Gavin
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile
Yes all my own work, imagined why remaining true to what is known thus far within all of the franchise.

User Avatar
Frantz
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
I think that when they did Alien they had no need to find any kind of logical explaination ... the just did things that were useful for an interesting plot . So will be the Prometheus plot in charge of giving explainations regarding ALOT of Alien things ...IF they will want to give them . Everything ..from the eggs disposition ... the signal ..the space jockey death ...the kind of vessel and mission .... the derelict fate ...can produce 1 million theories ... and we can search answers only in prometheus.
User Avatar
Gavin
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile
well said frantz

User Avatar
Micro changes in air density
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
Snork. Nice. Please now work on the second prequel and post it here!
User Avatar
Spartacus
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
Have had that same thought as well but never was able to articulate it the way you just did Frantz, very very wise of you.
User Avatar
Macs
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
Has anybody tried to record the original Alien beacon message and speed it up and see what it sounds like? I say speed it up since it sounds like it would be a slowed version of some message in our language...
User Avatar
Micro changes in air density
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
It is also very likely a lot of these questions you raise franz will not be answered. One of the most amazing things about Alien, and there were a lot, is the amount of unanswered questions left at the end. If I were Scott I would keep the sequence going.
User Avatar
Spartacus
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
awesome idea !!! damn my video cap card is broken and I have to get a new one but I think there still might be way for me to do it and I will race you guys to it but you'll "prolly" beat me ! Or I can just keep hanging out here beating myself...er...that doesn't sound right does it?
User Avatar
Spartacus
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
wow on my way to do this I found this beauty...remember this from the Quadrilogy DVD deleted scenes... [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_VnoLyrfdY]AlienTransmisson[/url]
User Avatar
Macs
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
I just ran a quick and dirty recording but am limited on how fast I can play it. Anyway, running it as fast as possible (with my software), it still seems like just an eerie sound, maybe some sort of gunshot or fighting going on, but that is as much as I can tell. Maybe somebody with some good software can take a jab at this? Even possibly slow it down too? Just to see what it sounds like?
User Avatar
Rick
Group: Member
Rank: Xenomorph
View Profile
Hey guys time for me to chime in. The transmission sounds like a mouth full of something while talking underwater. Ok, now to think about what we are disscussing more strategically. We need to work with the assumptionss that Ash already knows what the transmission says(atleast the jist of it). This is due mostly from the company changing out Science Officers prior to launching the Nostromo. The company knows damn well what they are in for. Think about it, this is where Prometheus comes in. I think the signal is an automated acoustical distress beacon that any ship that is about to crash or has crashed would give off by the ships computer system. It could be a pre-recorded message from the "engineer" that gets trashed at the end from the wreck or it could be getting face hugged. We don't know, but I like the ideas being kicked around.

User Avatar
Rick
Group: Member
Rank: Xenomorph
View Profile
Actually you know what. I just watched the 4th kind the other night. If anyone has a copy of that play the part where the Aliens are talking Sumerian on the recordign and then compare what you hear to the 12 second recording

User Avatar
Spartacus
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
I have it Rick, will see if i can do it
User Avatar
Rick
Group: Member
Rank: Xenomorph
View Profile
Hey Sparky, I'm not saying they are the same. They are uncannily similar sounding. The Tonality and abruptness of the languages are very similar. Check it out. Regards, Rick

User Avatar
Spartacus
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile
Rick, and everyone else, Here are the comparison Videos for you, I did not alter them in any way. They are quite different I think in Tone, But Not in articulation, in that, they are similar. In the end I guess it's all open to personal interpretation, but "Mostly", and as Newt would say, I realized in this that there really is not a good example depicted in any of the films of the audio portion of the derelict's transmission. In the theatrical and in the 2003 Special ed. release we see Ripley studying it, but we never actually hear it, or one full cycle of it anyways. In the deleted scenes we hear what's in the the posted link below from Lambert. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnH45syvnbk]Sumerian[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_VnoLyrfdY]AlienTransmision[/url]
User Avatar
Rick
Group: Member
Rank: Xenomorph
View Profile
Hey Sparky, Need to listen to the recording from the handheld. Its not in any of the youtube footage. If you want to go youtube route listen to the Scott Hypnosis recording. I believe the engineer leaving the message from the derelict is male and the tones are very similar. Regards, Rick

Join the discussion!



New Forum Topics
Recently Active Forums
Alien: Romulus
Alien: RomulusDiscuss the new Fede Alvarez Alien movie here
Alien: Earth
Alien: EarthDiscuss the Alien FX TV series here!
Alien: Covenant
Alien: CovenantDiscuss the Prometheus Sequel, Alien: Covenant
Prometheus Fan Art
Prometheus Fan ArtArtwork & Fiction From the Fans
Hot Forum Topics
Highest Forum Ranks Unlocked
Svanya
Svanya » Praetorian
89% To Next Rank
ninXeno426
ninXeno426 » Praetorian
63% To Next Rank
Thoughts_Dreams
Thoughts_Dreams » Neomorph
89% To Next Rank
Neomorph
Neomorph » Chestburster
95% To Next Rank
cuponator3000
cuponator3000 » Chestburster
84% To Next Rank
Latest Media
Community Stats
This Alien Movie Universe community is part of the Scified network. Scified hosts a network of online fan-site communities containing 406,591 posts by 48,469 members (15 are online now). The Alien: Romulus Forum is the most recently active forum. The latest Forum topic added was: Fede Alvarez apparently NOT directing the Alien: Romulus sequel now?!
VIPWhat are VIP?AdminModeratorSpecial TitleMember
Join the discussion!
Please sign in to access your profile features!
(Signing in also removes ads!)



Forgot Password?
Scified Website LogoYour sci-fi community, old-school & modern
Hosted Fansites
AlienFansite
GodzillaFansite
PredatorFansite
Main Menu
Community
Sci-Fi Movies
Help & Info
+

Sign In to contribute!