God is Dead

thats intense!

can be but really there is not interview to Dickie ..just a tabloid journalist that have assembled some things he found on the net in 10 minutes ..not caring if fake or true ...there are no word from dikie in " " ..just a phrase maybe taken in another interview ... im sure he did type " prometheus plot" on google and he did found the fake script and got it for good ..i trust more the AICN journalist that have said that the real plot is by far different from any "leaked" one . i agree on the second part ..is quite shallow as philosphy ( who created the creators then ? ) but VERY entertaining for a sci fi movie

It fits with : "What they found could be our end"

Lets me honest, the ideas people are throwing about regards the plot of Prometheus don't really match what Ridley said "...Its about everything..." and "...Its Epic..." What ideas have we had so far... 1. Space Mutants 2. Creating Life 3. Terraforming 4. The Birth Of The Xeno 5. Human/Alien Hybrids Only one of these sounds epic (number 2), I think we need to up our game, a lot. I don't think we are anywhere near the plot of Prometheus. We're too busy analysing this frame or that frame, and coming up with a story that doesn't match what Ridley is promising. We need to think bigger, a lot BIGGER.

Yes !!! Finally a voice of reason !!! I agree emphatically Snorky !!!

[quote]Lets me honest, the ideas people are throwing about regards the plot of Prometheus don't really match what Ridley said "...Its about everything..." and "...Its Epic..."[/quote] I beg to differ I touched on a bigger picture in this thread [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/421]GOD[/url] I also said this earlier "I just flashed on wizard of oz. What if the crew go to this planet expecting to meet God and what we find is disappointing. We find this engineer who is a selfish and fallible humanoid who played around with genetics and accidentally created us. He doesn't have any answers and makes lots of mistakes and wants us to worship him." [url= http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/374&page=2]non bootle trailer[/url] Think there has to be more than one plot line for such an "epic" movie so some answers about the facehugger beginnings are also going to be touched on. As for analyzing frames I just think it is fun.

The Engineer could simply be an 'Asshole' who when we meet them they feel they are so superior that they can torment us. It's easy to judge the way the crew will be greated in a human way.

""I just flashed on wizard of oz. What if the crew go to this planet expecting to meet God and what we find is disappointing. We find this engineer who is a selfish and fallible humanoid who played around with genetics and accidentally created us. He doesn't have any answers and makes lots of mistakes and wants us to worship him."" that suit pretty well

There's so much assumed in those articles without many quotes and I always hate taking the quotes literally. Just have to try and guess what they mean like when Scott "ruled out" the Xenomorph. Doesn't mean it won't be implied or the process isn't there. See now I don't know what to make of this "discovery" business in the Kate Dickie article. I hate that word because it assumes they found something on Earth. I don't see Earth anywhere in the film trailer. What's to say they didn't get a strange call from far away? And maybe the call wasn't even meant for them? Maybe the evil urns of chaos were for jockey-boy instead? Much like a gift from Zeus except we opened it.

I think the nearest plot to what maybe could be the correct one is something along the lines of. . . The Prometheus crew are sent to a set of co-ordinates light years away, with orders (but I suspect at least one of them has a hidden agenda/orders) to investigate a planet. They come across that ampule room and other similar structures, but they start tampering with things in there such as the urns and what's inside them. This in turn alerts Space Jockey's/Engineers to their presence, and they somehow mutate or infect the crew with a genetic type "thing" which maybe leads to a member mutating to a proto-xenomorph. This creature is then the first of a new species, and the SJ's aren't able to control or stop it. . . That maybe a crap idea but what ya'll think??

Frantz, all other B.S. aside, that idea of yours is quite good and I like it. I thought of that film {"The Wizard Of Oz"} recently as well in regard to Prometheus!

@Snorkelbottom I wrote this post to be thought provoking, not didactic, preachy or insulting. I hope you take it that way, and you pick up the spirit in which I intended it. Cool ideas Snorkelbottom. Although, folks on this forum often use the word “evil” when describing the behavior of the Alien or what might be the tendencies of the Space Jockey(s) in PROMETHEUS…why do y’all do that? Many or most of the active members on this site have expressed atheistic beliefs…or at least leanings. The fact is that, “evil” is at heart, a religious…spiritual concept, not a tangible scientific one. Personally, I do believe in evil, but I am at the very least a agnostic…and at the most a believer. As the ol’ axiom goes’ “One cannot have his cake, and eat it too.” One cannot NOT believe in an all powerful Creator…or God, and still believe in evil. If there is no God, then there is no known objective truth…therefore no good…and therefore no EVIL. This notion is a general tenant of Anton LaVey ‘s Church of Satan. This church does not believe in God or the devil…they simply use the name and image of Satan, whom they believe to be a fictional figure/character…as they believe Christ to be. In religious texts, the character of Satan does as he wills, when he wills it. And, in the absence of an Almighty God, with the ability to judge, reward or punish…why not do as one wills? ...except for a fear of temporal effects…i.e. legal problems, or physical danger, etc. It’s either one way or the other: A God…and there’s right and wrong…good and evil OR No God…and there’s only the “law of the jungle,” and natural selection. If there is no omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient God, then Man is not a creation, and has no soul. And is therefore, not an agent of morals or morality. He is neither innocent or guilty in his behavior. He simply exists and attempts to survive, as is his instinct…Just like the fictional Alien or Space Jockey. From what I have observed, many Science fiction fans tend to fancy themselves as scientists themselves, even if they have no formal training in the subject(s). All ya gotta do is read a few Sagan, Asimov, Clark or Heinlein books…and bippity boppity boo…a newborn scientist is born. We can’t have both ways…it’s all or nothin’! ~N

The Kate Dickie interview is very suspect. I don't think she would spill so much of the plot. The Daily Star looks like some sort of tabloid to me and are just making up stuff to fill out an article.

well said Neurion.

A creature as advanced and higher then us probably doesn't or wouldn't have a concept of good or evil as they'd assume they're so far along the technological scale, it simply wouldn't matter.

@ BM, wasn't dissing you bud, just talking in general terms. And I agree frame by frame analysing is fun, especially when some are sure they saw something that isn't even there or twist things round because they don't like what it suggests. But we've all analysed the trailer to death now, and its less than a minute of footage from, at a guess, a 2 hour film - there is so much more we haven't seen, oh so much more. But most of the threads and ideas here and on other forums seem to talk about mutants and proto-xeno's and humanoid Space Jockey's. All from what little we saw in the trailer. In a nut shell people seem to be expecting Prometheus to be - Big man in elephant man suit turns people into mutants and creates the alien. I don't want to see that, and I seriously doubt Ridley wants to make that. Ridley has used words like "Gods and Engineers", "Epic", "Its about Everything", "Vast in scale". We need to up our game, we are thinking too small, think BIG guys. What is the truly most epic plot that can think off.

[quote] Member Posts: 3 Lyle › Posted 01/14/2012 A creature as advanced and higher then us probably doesn't or wouldn't have a concept of good or evil as they'd assume they're so far along the technological scale, it simply wouldn't matter.[/quote] That's stunningly brilliant Lyle I Love what you wrote there!!! Very thought provoking !!!

Thanks Spatacus! ~N

~"N", When your dead bang on the money I have to say so !!! and that was perfect, no other words for it !!!

[quote]A creature as advanced and higher then us probably doesn't or wouldn't have a concept of good or evil as they'd assume they're so far along the technological scale, it simply wouldn't matter.[/quote] But that, was the best thing I've read in this thread so far!