New Alien Canon

i've already forgotten the sequels even exist. if ridley scott wants to redo the whole deal, good for him. it's his original vision, he has the right to do it. lets hope the fanboys and studioheads will allow him.

@Ripley Clone 8, you mean you even liked the "new born" alien in Alien Ressurection? To me that murdered any hope that film had. In my opinion, the reason Alien is head and shoulders above the rest is primarily because of the alien itself: it was cerebral, self-assured, patient, strategic, and nastier than anything you can imagine when killing. Also it went through five people (including Kane), all on its own - granted the humans didn't really have weapons to fight back. Now Aliens is a fantastic movie no-doubt but you have to admit there is a level of dumbing down the alien. Gone is the divide-and-conquer ingenuity displayed by Ridley's alien. Instead we have drones that just come at you regardless. So just on that basis alone, I admire Alien more than Aliens. Alien 3 for me was a failed star. Contrary to most views, Ripley's death was perfect and the best part of that film. Because the series does need closure for it to held in high esteem (Chris Nolan has the right idea). Ripley descending into fire having just daughtered a queen alien was a sublime ending for me: end of a species and it's greatest adversary. Alien Resurrection.... the "new born" alien... need I say more? And AvP trash, well I thin we are all in agreement about those.

The only not stupid part of AVP 1/2 was the end of Requiem when Yutani are presented with Predator tech, indicating how that company became so technologically advanced. . .

i remember going to ALIENS in the Arches in glasgow before Alien 3 came out, was a bit of a laugh....and then, when i saw the movie i was just absolutely gutted that newt had died. this however set the tone of the film for me and gave it a realism and harshness that completley severed it from the normal holywood bs. Finchers debut was dark and desperate,but deeply rewarding in terms of character interest, i think while it may not be the best alien film it has earned its place. previous alien films still stand alone to this day. avp etc is just a bit of fun, and i watch whatever one im in the mood for!! new member enjoying the site and all the crazy theories!!! rgds chris

Alien has always been the BEST film ever!! Cameron's Aliens was the second best film ever, but I had a differing view of the Alien life cycle based upon the "extra footage" of alien that was not seen at the time of its original release. To keep true to Cameron's story line about a "queen" who lays the eggs I had imagined that the original Alien had taken Brett, mutated him into a "queen" egg, and was planning to take another crew member to be host for the queen. Since Dallas was also taken and being mutated I assumed this was so the queen could have two guards and/or mates (I have always thought of the original Alien as a "warrior" of the species). Had Parker not attacked then Lambert would have been the host for the queen. Having killed Parker and Lambert (leaving them for future sustenance perhaps?) then Ripley was the only viable host for the queen, hence the reason the Alien never attacked her, it only stalked an taunted. I imagine the Nostromo would have ended up like SJ's ship in the end; crashed on some planet with an Alien hive filled with eggs just waiting for an unsuspecting host to find it, had the Alien succeeded in catching Ripley (given too that only if she successfully disarmed Mother's destruct sequence). I agree that Alien 3 and Resurrection have a place in the storyline, however I despise the way the filmmakers "perverted" the look of a "perfect organism"! The original Alien was not covered in slime!!! His head, silvery/black and shaped like a mutated penis, was smooth and not slimy. Cameron also ruined the look of the Alien by changing the structure of the head and making the drones so "weak"! Aliens did not have the sadism of the original Alien, it was not very frightening at all, but it did give great action in the end with Ripley fighting the queen. In my mind Alien 3 and Resurrection were merely "dreams" Ripley was having while still in cryo-stasis on the Sulaco. I'm still waiting for someone to pick up the storyline there if there are to be future sequels. They can write off the aging of Ripley, Hicks, and Newt as defective cryo-chambers thanks to Burke. AVP and AVP-R SUCKED and never should have been made AT ALL!!! The Predator was a totally different species from a totally different universe and he should have stayed that way. I am dying to see where Ridley goes with Prometheus. From viewing the trailer (a million times now???) I get the feeling of Alien again and I wish he could release it early as I'm sure it would still be playing long into the summer and beyond!!! I would probably go see it every day (as I did with Alien)!!!!

I'm all for writing off Alien 3, Resurection and the horrificly bad AVP movies. Keep it tight and sweet - Prometheus, Alien, Aliens. Everything else never happened - It was all a bad hypersleep dream.

why dont we just make all the films dreams...? come to think of it, prometheus can be ripleys alien prequel dream im just day dreaming here..LOL

Fyi Ripley8... the Stones finally released Live in Texas 78... The greatest concert film of all time, that no one has seen. Those of us who are hardcore fans have been waiting for it for years.

@Starbeast Yeah, I loved the new born. I thought it was creepy and terrifying. It showed you how what the scientist did with all that genetic manipulation going on how it can fuck of the genetic makeup of the Aliens and how they breed. How the Alien Queen added a second breeding cycle was interesting. But yes I loved it. I honestly don't see how it necessarily ruined anything, if anything it added more to it.

@craigamore, Clever question.. I'll go with any rewrite Ridley wants. It seems like with this movie, we are getting back to the real story.. lol.