The Prometheus Hypocrisy

no SSGT fett ....that was from a fake plot ....the alien harvest fake plot ( that have nothing to share with Spaihts )

violence in itself isnt interesting...Alien had very little violence

no way it's pg-13...fox would be shooting it's self in the foot if it made Sir Riddley make a movie pg-13 when his direction was R....Not to worried...i'm sure he'll get his way and the movie will rock. Haven't seen a bad Scott movie yet

well like so much of this films speculation we have to sort the wheat from the chaff, that rumour is exactly that a rumour and all we really know for sure is whats been discussed by ridley and lindelof at comic con and the recent articles in the magazines, and press. The space jockey orgy is just another piece of supposition unless ive missed something.

Well some movies were rated pg13 or 15/16 despite of some really gross and scary scenes like in event horizon While some harmless movies like Residen evil apocalypse got a 18 rating in germany. I wonder why nobody here suspects that Fox might got through with a pg13 with prometheus through its influence, while some others With the same movie might end up as r rated!

imdb has event horizon classified as 18 / r

It should be 'R' rated and be a brave new threshold of thoughtful horror. Time dilation horror, adult Giger horror. Alone on a distant planet thousands of light years away horror. Not cheap jumps, frights and bumps. I agree wholeheartedly Jeystone, the Scott/Giger roots belong in '79 and the Necronomicon when the audience of that time was about to be plunged across a new horror threshold. Let it happen again and sweep away the teen 'safe' muck. A revolution in film is needed. Badly.

here here zeta.

I just want something that can only be described as profound, surreal, and disturbing.....that isn't asking much

jeez, chill folks. This movie [i]won't[/i] be, nor should it be a carbon copy of "Alien." If there's any gore/shock-content that doesn't make the theatrical cut, it will unquestionably show up on the blu-ray release. What? like you're not going to buy the blu-ray or DVD? Yeah, that's what I thought.

there are some simple things you can do to raise the fear threshold one is sound there are frequencies you can use to put people on edge that they can barely detect not soundscapes and atmospherics but raw hyper low frequencies. Gore and shock wont cut it for me i'm more terrified by the prospect of being taken out of ones equilibrium and the prospect of being unable to distinguish reality from fantasy. Madness and the loss of ones faculties is more terrifying then jumping out of a plane with a parachute or a bungee jump. Deep seated psychological issues which are attributed to individual cases as opposed to general audiences like phobias but those childhood fears and the strength of imagination like the boy alone in a dark room who creates demons in the wallpaper that is the core of fear. sexual, psychological, physical, sensory, and emotional, i'm hoping Prometheus taps into the lot and more. Gore and bumps in the night are secondary to all that for me.

I of course don't know the parameters of the rating system, but I think had Alien been released now- it would still be rated R. Yeah, the chestburster was gory, but no more so than many movies with a lesser rating today. I think the "intense horror sequences and disturbing images" will still be the determining factor, and I hope those are present in Prometheus. Ridley might be able to omit SOME blood and gore, but this movie still needs to be profoundly disturbing to truly stay in the "same universe" as Alien. If some of those scenes (or extended scenes) are on the director's cut BD, then I can wait for that. My curiosity is more with exactly WHAT this "epic" story will be, but as many have said already- I wonder how much they can scare us with a PG13 movie. I think it's rather humorous that some say they won't even go see this if it gets a PG13 rating. All the naysayers will still be in that $10 movie seat, just like the rest of us... I'm sure Fox is banking on that.

i agree with all of what your saying but initially i was taken in by ridleys announcement that he wanted to make a nasty sc fi epic and i was sold on that especially when it emerged it would take place in the alien universe. I have never heard ridley use that term before (NASTY) in any film he has made including Hannibal which was the last thriller he made. Its fair to say that i think it will be magnificent regardless i just hope there are some genuine nasty surprises in store .

i also think once you bring the word 3d into the mix its almost a licence to market to the young because your average adult without kids like me just cant relate to 3d in the same way . I and many of my friends are just not in the least bit interested in 3d so i feel that although i was part of the generation that grew up with alien me and my age group are not the target audience for this however its amazing to see the old fans coming out of the woodwork to take an interest in a genre defining film prequel and that may be something fox was not anticipating on the level that it has stirred debate.

@Jeystone - You have managed to put into words exactly how I feel about this movie been watered down to some Walt Disney, kiddy friendly sci fi flick. I have been so excited about this film, and find it hard to verbalise my utter disgust if it gets the kid rating. To quote Ridley "its gonna be really nasty" "its the dark side of the moon" "I want to scare the living shit out of you" ...Playing it safe with Prometheus is not the correct strategy, even financially I think it would get more traction in the long term if they really went for it(the Gods_- Xenos doing really perverse things) Its not that I want to see violence and perversity for the sake of it, I just believe those ingredients are required to make this the dark, foreboding, unnerving entity that it should be. I fear Ridley has gone all Lucas on our asses! He should tell the soulles fox suits to go fuck themselves and not have bothered, or at least had the creative intellect to make the thing on a lower budget.

I can honestly say i have never in my adult life paid to see a pg13 film at the cinema the last time i did go to the cinema i had a press pass when i did a review for revenge of the sith and I was doing a short column in a local publication.

Anyway, I just hope it's not softened as in the case of the Expendables 2 ... or as Carter of Mars (Disney) where we see a Dejah Thoris running across the sand dunes of Mars with more costumes than Mother Teresa...instead of wearing a dental floss

The biggest problem is the movie budget...they don't make 150 million R rated movies...period! That is the only reason why this movie might end up as a PG13...I trust that their will be a directors cut on the blueray/DVD...but in the cinemas...we will be lucky to get an adult rating.......sadly!

Hey I wish PROMETHEUS to be a hard R, but just by analyzing the market (AVATAR & APES movie success, both Fox Production), I think it is safe to say that the movie will likely be PG13. Europe almost definitely will get the R version, if Fox decides on 2 ratings. I hope not.

PG13 or R, I'll be at the theater to see it along with my wife, while my daughter stays at the grandparents'. :-) I think/hope Prometheus will be good regardless of the rating. Besides, 2012 looks to be a good year for movies, so one of them on my list (and hopefully several) are going to satisfy me.