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Progenitor (your thoughts)

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CantSpaceJockTheRock

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 1:19 PM
I looked and didnt see anything like this yet so here we go... I'm very curious to see some of your guys ideas for the progenitor we've heard about. There are a few points I'd like to purpose for discussion. [u]Infection[/u] -will it be similar to what we know already i.e embryo implantment from something like a facehugger? -will it be more of an infection that takes over the hosts body and controls it? -will it be through "human transmission" i.e shaw sleeps with holloway after he is infected by something similar to the second point and impregnates shaw with the actual creature. [u]Birth[/u] -will it be similar to the chestbursting we already know? -will it be a more "human" birth i.e shaw gives birth to some horrible creature through here existing reproductive system. -will Ridley have something completely different? [u]Lifecycle[/u] -Will it have an accelerated Lifecycle and grow/mature rapidly? -will it just be born large with no "larva" stage to speak of? I hope this doesn't get locked I'm very interested to see your opinions and get some new ideas. I appreciate your time and I hope you enjoy. Sorry I'm typing on my phone at work so I'll edit any mess ups when I get home on the comp.
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skyguy1054

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 1:28 PM
HR Giger was closely involved with the design work in the Species movies and it seemed to me there were ideas/themes he got to expand on there that the original Alien didn't have time or budget for. Having said that, I hope Ridley carefully researched those, if only to be sure and do something very distinct.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 1:30 PM
There was something about "Natashia K" or whatever her name was/is and that whole thing That I loved...but until just now I had NO IDEA it was H R GIGERS work that was doing this to me subconsciously, I had no idea any part of that franchise was his doing...Thanks...awesome info.

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteFeb-27-2012 1:33 PM
honestly sparky, you didn't know that Giger designed Sil, I thought that was common knowledge? I especially liked the cocoon idea on the train.

BellaisanAlien

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 1:38 PM
This is interesting and makes me ponder whether or not the cocooned man will actually be a transformation stage of one of the monsters.........

skyguy1054

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 1:42 PM
The leaked script (debunked?) we saw a year or so ago with the two guys working for the SJ-like "Growers made reference to what sounded like miniature aliens. Not small like ants but small enough to swarm, that could be customized for different environments. . . . OR . . . On an entirely different tangent. What if (big one here - stay with me) the entire cave/egg chamber explored by Kane was once itself alive? Ridley once expressed his fascination, in a bonus feature somewhere, with old Oxford Scientific footage of a tiny wasp, that would detect movement of a grub (larva) inches below the bark of a tree. It would produce a probiscis several times its own body length and drill down below the surface to implant its seed inside the grub which would then become a host. The surface of LV426 was designed to appear organic (or was at least built to resemble a landscape of massive bones and body parts). So, what if this is what happens when the small world ITSELF is "impregnated?" Or am I letting my imagination get too epic in scale?

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 1:56 PM
[quote]honestly sparky, you didn't know that Giger designed Sil, I thought that was common knowledge? I especially liked the cocoon idea on the train.[/quote] --------------------------- I loved that too, it looked awesome as well, a lot, but no, I downloaded 3 of the films in the series and watched them all without any background info on the franchise...But agin, I loved Mike Madsen, and the Lady from CSI, and the chemestry between them in the 2nd one.

skyguy1054

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 2:14 PM
I just liked Nastsia Hendstridge and Marg Helgenberger! (lol)

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 2:16 PM
thanks man, now I got their names straight in my mind again..."Ya Bonehead Spartacus".

ZetaReticuli

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 3:02 PM
I'm keen to know if the rapid growth and acidic blood will be at least hinted at (if the film wants to distance itself from Alien strictly). I think there may be an 'essence' like airborne mist that causes all the mayhem in Prometheus. It'll be fascinating to see something along the lines of a Giger serpent as a progenitor, and not a recognisable humanoid shaped creature. Question is, where will everything combine, confuse and tie in to create a Giger apparition? Cannot wait to see the 'Gods'. I hope it raises more tantalising questions.

shambs

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 4:44 PM
I think we'll see a whole new monster that give rise to the facehugger or perhaps the pre-facehugger. In fact Ridley Scott stated that Prometheus we are moving backwards and not forward (even if it's a prequel to "Alien the eighth passenger"). Although who knows, maybe rescue the life cycle of the original Alien, 1979, where victims are brought into a cocoon that turn into eggs. While on the other hand maybe the parasite's small trailer will be filtering something like a facehugger or Pre-Chestburster ... but surely will have more connection with the ampoules, the container of that greenish-yellow liquid, the liquid may has its own life as a parasite (ok sounds pretty silly but who knows) that seeps into the skin or helmets with an agility sinister and very likely that this greenish liquid substance is the true biological weapons, and monsters resulting single or concecuencia impact of this weapon.

craigamore

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 6:49 PM
Let's not forget this guys.... [img]http://makeagif.com/media/2-18-2012/qFMX8R.gif[/img] I honestly think this our progenitor at a very early, simplistic stage. It's obviously parasitic and while I think we may even see more creatures than this, it's likely, this thing, is a strong and logical plausible candidate for our progenitor....

GreatBoosUp

MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 7:41 PM
Who will weep like a child if there's no progenitor at all?

db

MemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 6:57 AM
@craigamore: in that gif of yours, what is that parasite thing exiting? An SJ's head?

CantSpaceJockTheRock

MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 1:12 AM
Yes, im pretty sure it's suppsoedly the SJ helm laying outside the ampoules room. The same one being studied by Shaw and whichever other crew memeber that is perhaps. Seems a pretty early attack though as i dont think theyve found the jockeys or their homeworld yet. i think this scene is on mars where they find the start map and such which leads them on their real mission. [url=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Zwu3MxhUwlM/TwRxdyNRHhI/AAAAAAAABWE/KQqiyEN35vA/s1600/dead+jockey.jpg]Jockey outside ampoules room[/url] could be something else entirely i cant make it out that well its not too clear haha

CantSpaceJockTheRock

MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 1:13 AM
sorry im not craigo haha
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