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Interesting article about the follies of Alien based science fiction

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craigamore

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 5:24 PM
Courtesy of blastr.com.... [b]Carl Sagan's son on the one thing alien movies always get wrong [/b] digg 12 ShareLast week, legendary futurist Ray Kurzweil gave us his take on the failings of science fiction cinema. Now Nick Sagan, son of iconic astronomer and Contact author Carl Sagan, has his own bone to pick with sci-fi filmmakers. Unlike Kurzweil, he's got only one complaint, but it's big enough to cover just about every alien invasion flick ever made. Sagan's not only the son of one of the most famous scientists ever. He's also got some serious sci-fi cred. He's written three acclaimed novels as well as episodes of both Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Voyager, but that doesn't stop him from cringing at one very familiar thread that runs through just about every tale of alien contact that's ever graced the big screen. "Humans having any kind of sporting chance against hostile alien invaders armed with superior technology," Sagan said. "Good luck. If they're advanced enough to cross the enormous distances of interstellar space, they're advanced enough to wipe us out without breaking whatever in their physiology passes for a sweat. Why not just lob a few asteroids at us? How are we going to handle that? The conceit of plucky human underdogs triumphing at the end might make for feel-good popcorn movies but in reality there's just no 'there' there." And in case you were hoping Sagan would support a Signs-style loophole whereby we conveniently defeat the alien invaders through some inherent quality of Earth's environment, he's got a rebuttal for that, too. "Seriously, we beat them with a computer virus? Our microbes are their kryptonite? And why do they even want to attack us anyway? There's no shortage of other planets they could enjoy, and if they really took a disliking to us, why not sit back and allow us to destroy ourselves? We're certainly capable of it," he said. But Sagan does have some love for alien-encounter cinema. He highlights two films that he thinks come closer than others to capturing what the experience would actually be like. Though, admittedly, he does have a vested interest in one of them. "Allow me to surprise exactly no one by singing the praises of Contact [written by Carl Sagan] as the best example of how this might unfold," he said. "I've heard many astronomers laud it as the closest film yet to a realistic portrayal of how the scientific community might react, and likewise, the scenes where members of government express their concerns strike me as highly plausible. That said, short of an actual alien first-contact scenario, no one really knows how we'll react when push comes to shove. We have ideas, potential strategies, SETI protocols. When we get that signal, though, all bets may be off. Beyond Contact, I think there's something compelling about District 9. While over the top in some ways (as many science fiction allegories are), the idea that we might segregate and subjugate the "other" seems true to the human experience, especially if that "other" turns out to be less powerful than ourselves. That gets to the heart of why there are so many scary aliens in science fiction—while we know next to nothing about how actual extraterrestrial lifeforms (should they even exist) are likely to react, we know all too well how poorly we can treat our fellow life-forms down here on Earth." So, if that big day finally comes, and we really do establish first contact with an alien race, what's Sagan hoping for? How does he think it would play out? Well, there are a lot of question marks in any scenario, but Sagan said he's just hoping for a little unity. "Still, here's hoping that if and when that momentous first-contact scenario does actually arrive, we manage to join together as humans, and walk bravely into whatever the future holds," he said. For more on Sagan's take on alien contact, check out the new documentary series Alien Encounters, airing this week and next week on the Science Channel. Very interesting.........
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Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 5:31 PM
Good read. We would be pretty fucked if they decided to take us out. No way would we be able to pull something like Independence Day or Battle: Los Angeles off. No way in hell. I for one welcome our new ant-overlords :-P
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craigamore

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 5:42 PM
Nice Cypher...Kent Brockman reference.....awesome...that's one of my all time favorite Simpsons jokes.......... [img]http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwtwvzEvWt1r2l739o1_500.jpg[/img] "I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves." - Kent Brockman 1994 [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yZwsy9lfcEA/TjwWi5l2EAI/AAAAAAAAGco/A0tJlOW7BTY/s1600/kent.jpg[/img] [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sGF3xujtaA0/TdEVdW24SGI/AAAAAAAAAq0/t87W-5eGAOQ/s320/Kent+Brockman+Please+Stand+by.jpg[/img]

PROVO

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 5:51 PM
Son of Sagan comes off as an egg-headed idiot. Thats why Prometheus will be perfect for him. (Or, it'll sail swiftly over his head like the rest of the films he references)

craigamore

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 5:59 PM
Agreed PROVO...........what gets me is that he falls on one side or ther other as a son of Sagan. There's so little we can possibly even imagine about possible alien intelligences that there is no way you can say one way or the other what's likely to happen, whether man could prevail or not; or if our environment would have an adversre affect on alien physiology like microbes, for instance...notice the subtle dig toward one of science fictions greatest stories, "The War Of The Worlds". This dude just backhanded H.G. Welles...what the Helll.... The possibilites are just so unknowable that I find his argument presumptuous and well....look at me - Son of Sagan......heir to the throne of know-it-alls.

Ghorgul

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 6:08 PM
We don't have to worry about Aliens. If they decide to attack mankind, we can always Ram Prometheus against their ship - World is saved (pun intented) Sorry, had to say this as it seems the collision theory is so immensely popular. And this joke of mine falls actually within the "unreal" part of what Nick Sagan is talking about. Nick Sagan is obviously very wise man. Stephen Hawking has also been representing similar thoughts. Actually, when you think more about what Sagan says about District 9 and humankind treating it's weaker members... It wouldnt really be too wrong if the Aliens just came and wiped us out. That's exactly what we have done in history several times. Humans are still very savage.

RickK

MemberOvomorphMar-15-2012 2:35 PM
Yea I agree that we wouldn't stand a chance against such an advanced intelleigence - but at the same time there's hope that such an advanced civilization would have long ago left their warlike tendencies far behind.
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