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"Cinematic Device" In The Alien Franchise"

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[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/a1aChalezea1.jpg[/img] In each of the Alien Franchise Films, for me at least, there seems to have been one particluar "Cinematic Device" that was prevelant throughout the film and/or used somewhere that was so significant in each film, that it, in my mind, MADE that film, or if you prefer, was the one thing that stood out that made a difference in any entertinment value I felt that film had at the time. ALIEN : This was the hardest one to come up with, all of the others including what I think it'll be for Prometheus were quite easy to see, but for the original film it was a little bit more tricky. In the end I settled on this...MODELING/ART DIRECTION. In this regard ALIEN was special. A Model...a frikking Model folks...approximately 60 feet tall was built by Giger and Scott for the Space Jockey set alone. The claustrophobic nature of the set built for the actors with real levels and working gadgets was and is to this day in my mind...LEGENDARY. ALIENS: No question here for this film. Cameron's use of "Reverse Photography" is astounding. The work done on the facehugger scene in which Newt and Ripley are trapped in their quarters was brilliant, and throughout the rest of that film Cameron employed that same technique whenever they ran into filming trouble for any proposed shots. ALIEN 3: ANIMATRONICS. Just saying that name is fun. And what a technique. Thank G-d for it in fact as far as making movies goes. The Animatronics in some of the scenes in ALIEN 3 are unforgettable, you could swear that thang was real, who cares if it was a Baby Boar or Doggie...lmao. ALIEN RESURRECTION: No doubt about it we have "arrived" in the age of Sound & Vision. The THX audio work done for REZ is remarkeable but what really pushed this film over the top was the CGI work done in it. The first scene in which we see her and hear the roar of the QUEEN "Beezlenut" is such a JOY if you have 5.1 surround or THX and a decent LCD Large screen to experience it all again with...and again... and again...the Underwater scenes neeeded special substances made of milk base to be poured into the water so the CGI camera effects would be picked up and work under it. PROMETHEUS: Ridley himself told us allalready what this one is. "3D". In fact he claims he will "never shoot again without it" !!! It's going to be realy interesting to see what we can see off to the sides of the screen in the thing too I think. Bonus: I realized why "Rick" has always had a hard tme hearing and understanding what I mean about Parker having gas in Alien while drinking his coffee on the Nostromo at the begginning of the film, the first time we see him. It's because unless you see the film again in 5.1 or DTS...it is far less noticeable. SOUND makes a big diff. IMO, maybe the biggest of all...in every film made today...the proper or improper use of it can have a deep influence on how any film is percieved. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/a1aChalezea1.jpg[/img]
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[quote]flacnvinyl Member Send PM › Posted Mar-16-2012 8:46 PM | Moderate @Spartacus - I am a self-described audiophile who got his start in audio. I started bootlegging Rolling Stones concerts in the 90s, moved on to sound for band demos, then my own studio, so forth. I collect vinyl hence my screenname which I use all over the place. You are DEAD ON about surround sound. I have a 37" LED LCD tv and 5.1 that is properly calibrated to the room. It is a JOY to have friends over and watch a good movie. Usually we get remarks about it, but the funny thing is that some nice Polk or Yamahas, a Denon amp and a solid tv can deliver such a great cinematic experience that I hardly feel the need to go to the theater. Additionally, I love mixing in 5.1... It is very rare that a client actually needs it, but its a blast as long as they don't want some unrealistic 'in the middle of the band' type mix. It has to be direction. Another point, it is fantastic for gaming. Playing Skyrim or Mass Effect is just a plain joy in 5.1. Gorgeous scores, you hear enemies infront/behind/sides/way off in the distance, so forth.. Fully immersive. Alien, IMHO, does not have the best sound quality from a technical standpoint, but it still has a certain charm about it. I love the dynamic range. When Ripley and Parker are fighting the range from whisper to beligerent is massive. Most movies simply cripple the loudness (Michael Bay) to the point that it no longer matters whether anyone is shouting, firing a weapon or farting, every single sound is blazingly loud. Even worse with music these days. I dig your rant but I do have to disagree with you on something... Ressurection sucks. I re-watched the film about a month ago, and I hate it now more than ever. I remember seeing it in the theater and thinking 'this isn't furthering the film, and the hybrid should have been designed by Giger'. The smiling aliens in the swimming scene SUCK. Then again... the directing style is so terrible that it overshadows good FX. So I recant... the FX are overall solid, but the way they are used destroys anything inherently 'good' about them.[/quote] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sorry I missed this post due to the situation I mentioned yesterday but in response I LOVE what you wrote here "Flac". I understand your position on "REZ" but I will always maintain that there were some tings in it we all loved, albeit few and far between, like "The Betty", "Solid Laser Poured Cube Scotch", and "guns up your sleeves"...but never the less there were some good things in it we liked even though overall it's not such a reputable film and let's face it, it's got some really bad moments in it. I defend it though because never the less it was a "Whopping Financial Success" {Made initial profit of 80 mill I believe}and actually contributed to all us being here today. I absolutely Hated that Creature though and so I do agree with a lot of the venom for it. Sound can make such a Huge Difference in how film is perceived and if you do not believe that just look at the proof I provided everyone about this...and how it was perceived...more than 3/4's of THIS COMMUNITY STILL DOES NOT even REALIZE THAT PARKER 100% farts loudly and deliberately while drinking his coffee and asking Dallas if he minds if he finishes it...3/4's of the people here man, STILL HAVEN;T NOTICED IT...AND RIDLEY 100% OBVIOUSLY LEFT THAT IN THE FILM DELIBERATELY...IT'S SO VERY FRUSTRATING TO ME, AND YET SO FRIKKIN' HYSTERICAL !
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