Creature at start of trailer

its david

There isn't a search function implemented yet. I think the bald guy is a human mutated into a blue jockey. If you pause it and brighten the picture you'll see he is turning blue.

DJAB: Can I ask you how you, or somebody else, came to that conclusion? just watching the trailer, I can't see any resemblance. Was it discussed elsewhere? Thanks.

My thoughts were that it was an Engineer in primordial Earth's past seeding the planet with life. I think that the gray stuff collecting in his hand is the stuff used to create life and he's about to drop some out of his hand and into the water. From there, evolution takes its course. I also think it's probably the opening scene of the movie; setting the stage for the story.

That sounds pretty good. It could very well be.

Not sure, but this guys seems to have the same problem.. well, he's in a little more pain... [img]http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/2463/veins.jpg[/img] [url=http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/2463/veins.jpg]Large[/url]

Rick: Oookaaay! What is a 'blue jockey'? Did you mean Space Jockey? And now your saying humans mutate into the SJs! You are part of the "staff". Surely you're not leading us on! ;)

I strongly suspect it's Holloway in the process of mutating into a proto-space-jockey.

I thought it was a human with some kind of either nano-type infection or a human being transformed by same..... Looked like a person to me anyways...... Now, hasn't it been speculated that the Engineers can change biological and inorganic materials like that?

we briefly touched upon it in a recent forum called "giant space jocky from alien vs ardvark in prometheus"

@SNARK: It's already been fairly clearly established from what we've seen that both A) crew members undergo biological transformations, and B) the "space jockey" is actually a biomechanoid space suit of some kind worn by some other being altogether.

The difference between the veins in that picture above and the guy at the start of the trailer is that the guy at the start of the trailer has fewer, larger, and more ordered "veins". The blue man's veins don't look like proper veins but more like moving tattoos; they go in a specific line and don't branch off as much as the guy in the picture. If the guy in the start is an Engineer, I think that maybe his skin is always moving--the lines are always traveling about his body. I can't prove any of it, but that's just what I interpret from it.

Here was my take about him: [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/2095]What I Saw[/url] Hope posting links like this doesn't come off as pretentious it just sure beats writing the same thing over and over again : )

dtrisml: Holloway mutating into a proto-SJ!? Where'd you get that one from?

Great screencap danrald. I can't help but think it's David which is odd, it looks like his jawline and teeth. SNARK, Holloway is infected by something for sure, we can see this when he looks at his eye in a mirror - there's something small and twitchy in it.

Perhaps the gods need manpower to accomplish the work of creating life, I can think of 2 reasons for this: 1) The gods are metaphysical entities that created the technology to terraform worlds biomechanics and insert life in them, but they need physical beings of nature for the task. Then the invitation is for humans to reach Zeta Reticuli to alter their DNA to have pra appropriate and evolutionary characteristics to handle the chair and get the job done. 2) The gods are the liquid from the Urns. The invitation is to enter a human body and thus to fulfill the demand of creationism. PDD: You must not forget that there is a possibility that humans are mutated monsters, ie primitive versions of the Xenomorph.

I could see the movie set up the situation where Shaw and Holloway are in a relationship and something happens to him that makes him some sort of monster that she has to kill, but is conflicted about killing.

I think scott plans on addressing some the same issues he did in blade runner regarding artificial life. Mans need for control and superiority leads him to create life "David" and become his god but if David is completely self aware with soul will he take the same route as man and have a need to create life and feel superior. i thought maybe he gets infected by the primordial facehugger he extracts with his bare hand, and since everybody is dead set on the Bio-Mechanical theme its not entirely impossible that the mystery goo improves his man made body turning him into a completely new being. I think the scene we see at the beginning of the trailer is what has become of david at the end of the movie.

If it is Holloway mutating, then what we see at the start of the trailer is actually the end of the story. ie. He can only be infected once he got there. If it is him, where is he? The planet they're on surely doesn't look like it has water!

I think whoever is seen at the beginning of the trailer is likely also the same figure who we've previously seen activating the chair array (pale, bald, muscular human-looking male). At least it *feels* to me like the same being (and also note the resemblance to the "head".

That's my main reason for thinking that it's an Engineer in primordial Earth's past and probably not David: the water. We have to account for where all that water is situated in the movie. If it's an infected crew member, they somehow got off the planet and are on another planet toward the end of the movie. If it's an Engineer in Earth's past, he's there visiting our planet while the seas are forming and drops off some of the bioformer, which may be in his blood, into the water to allow it to start the process of evolution.

dtrisml "I think whoever is seen at the beginning of the trailer is likely also the same figure who we've previously seen activating the chair array (pale, bald, muscular human-looking male). At least it *feels* to me like the same being (and also note the resemblance to the "head"." My thoughts exactly.

Xenotron: Don't you think that will give too much of the story away? If we're told at the start of the movie, or it's directly implied by just what we see, won't that take away some of the mystery? I do like your idea better than the mutated human, but one of the "staff" told us it was a mutating human! They wouldn't lie, would they?! (Wish this forum had smilies!)

@ Shambhala: I like your theories. I think an interesting compromise would be to say that what's in the urns is possibly the *remains* of the "Gods" in a preserved form, and that their "resurrection" and will is carried out biologically, by their genetic essence infecting and changing unwitting explorers who happen upon the "tombs". This may also tie in with the enigmatic voice-over about the "king".

No it doesn't give too much of the story away and here's why: The trailer is outright telling you that aliens came to Earth in the past. This is where the story starts, not where it ends. It's setting up the premise for the movie; it's the impetus for our characters to start on their discovery. Plus, the Engineer creating life on Earth isn't like a major spoiler or anything and it's certainly not the whole story. You see, aliens creating life on Earth in the past isn't a story. Aliens creating life on Earth, humans figuring it out and finding the creators, and then the struggle between the humans and the creators is a story. Story requires struggle and the protagonist overcoming the antagonist.

Alien = Ash Aliens = Bishop Alien Resurrection = Call Prometheus = David So vickers wont be an android. ABCD....

What i'm interested in knowing is what the disc-shaped thing overlooking the waterfall is. It definitely looks like a fixed structure to me. Also, theoretically, there would have to be water *somewhere* on the planet in order for there to be clouds (which it seems to have an abundance of). The waterfall may not be in the "valley of the tombs", but it might be someplace nearby perhaps(?). At any rate, the rock in both locations is pretty clearly of the same sort of volcanic basalt-type makeup, and the cloudy, gloomy-skied ambience is also pretty much the same as well.

DJAB, LOL... plus Vickers is a gun anyway...

Here is how I think the movie progresses: 1. The story of man's creation by an alien according to Elizabeth Shaw. 2. The mission to a planet pointed to by the "invitation" star map. 3. The discovery of the ampules and the head. Skeptical moviegoers and the Prometheus crew are to believe Shaw's story was correct. 4. Things start to go wrong and people start getting infected. 5. The discovery of the old derelict underground and the reason for it's existence. 6. Shaw's pregnancy and her realization that she was completely wrong. 7. She has to convince everyone else to sacrifice themselves on her new "theory" 8. The engineer takes off from one of many hangers in a new looking ship. Those who can do something finally believe her and ram it in an act of self sacrifice. This ship is grounded but the Engineer lives so the problem was not solved.. 9. Shaw gives birth to a biological plague that arose from human interference in alien technology. 10. The Engineer takes it back to the older ship (the actual derelict) and while readying the ship is infected by a facehugger. He awakens and continues to ready the ship. The chestburster emerges just after take off causing him to crash and die. Humankind can continue because of sheer luck

Unless Meredith is long for Edith ABCD.........E!!!! lol

I'm guessing it's David or the other synthetic Ridley said might be in the film. Possibly a synthetic made by the Yutani corporation sent to spy or sabotage. The idea of a bio morphed synthetic ties in with the biomechanical look and feel of the SJ and did anyone notice in the trailer how the chair attaches itself the SJ? I think the SJ once seated becomes part of the ship.

the Figure we see at the beginning of the newly released full trailer is an Engineer or Space Jockey race...according to some movie theorists, are the ones who created all species and planets by terraforming....I really do believe that this alien figure has been affected by some type of unknown alien infection...It's puzzling, because we only see parts of the movie...But the Engineer's hand and arm looks to be infected with the same black veins as the character Holloway, who we can see is painfully changing into some alien species (in the trailer), while he is wearing his helmet...I cannot piece it together though...If the space jockey is getting affected, and then some of the humans are getting affected, then why is the Space jockey threatening to fly the derelict ship toward earth ?...Is he that pissed that the Humans stole some of the important 'Urns' containing DNA of all created life forms ?? (The Greek god Zeus punished Prometheus for stealing "Fire" from him to give to mankind)...Weland industries most likely wants the urns returned to Earth. OR has one Space Jockey gone "Rogue" because the "King's reign ended, because he died"

IT'S OBVIOUS THAT AFTER THIS NEW ALIEN INFECTION AFFECTS HOLLOWAY, AND OTHERS, THAT THEIR DNA IS MUTATING INTO A NEW ALIEN SPECIES....WATCHING THE NEW FULL EUROPEAN TRAILER CLOSELY, THERE IS A CLOSE UP OF A WORM LOOKING ALIEN PENETRATING ONE OFG THE CHARACTERS ARMORED LEFT ARM....REMINDS ME OF THE MOVIE "SLITHER", WHERE WORMLIKE ALIEN SPECIES SPREAD AND CRAWLS INTO THEIR BODIES AND INFECT THE HUMANS, THUS CHANGING THEM INTO ALIEN CREATURES THROUGH MUTATION.

I think it probaly is David and I think it's right at the end of the film.

It's clearly the Dark Lord Voldemort...

Think it might be David, right at the end of the film, not the start. A good jump-off for the sequal to the prequal (not).

The bald headed, bloodied, veins-moving-in-its-head, creature we see at the start of the trailer is Elizabeth shaw, after been infected and it'll be at the end of the movie... she look at here arm, like something new.

So that looked like a woman to you?

Somebody has to explain the saucer shape ship on top of water fall. When the albino guy looking at his hand the saucer is not in the scene any more. Could it be SJ drop the first human on earth then leave? May be this scene not related with moon or planet that Prometheus ship has landed.