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Xeno-Jockey
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 8:45 AMAs much as i want this movie to be an ALIEN prequel, i believe what ridley said about it being original is partially correct, even if there is elements of a prequel. Ive seen too much of "how is it going to link to alien" and i just think, why dont we start thinking of potential original ideas that may or may not tie into alien.
You guys have great ideas on here so id love to hear some, and i hope that we have some great ideas!
Its a robot...ash is a goddamn robot!
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Macs
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 9:06 AMThere's what looks like a "space jockey", and a "derelict" an some other elements (like Weyland industries for example), so it definitely has Alien DNA on it. Now the story is whole beast of its own it seems...

genjitsu17
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 10:00 AMIt's a simple concept people are having trouble with. If Star Wars did a side story movie, in the same universe......people wouldn't be trying to find Darth Vader in every released pic. Well, maybe they would.....I dunno. But I agree, I think this is a new movie in a familiar universe.
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.

Raven
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 10:14 AMLike RS said it is in the same universe, it CAN be a prequel WITHOUT the classic "alien" we saw in '79.Hence the word prequel , the alien wasn't "born" ,"invented" yet. We will get some sort of backstory involving aspects of the '79 film.

Ripley Clone 8
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 10:32 AMI see this as an ALIEN prequel. There's just too many things in Prometheus for this not to be. The Space Jockey, The Derelict, The Androids, The WEYLAND & YUTANI Coporations. I mean there's one thing after another. I understand this is in the same universe but I just don't understand why this wouldn't be an almost direct prequel in some way. I don't think Ridley is there to make another ALIEN. He's mentioned it multiple times in interviews and even on the live Q & A March 17th. So if he's not out to make another ALIEN than what is he doing? Well its a prequel. Before even production started he wanted explore the merging between Weyland and Yutani. He is now and he's even adding more. There's just tooooooo mannnnyyy things in Prometheus that relate to ALIEN for this not to be a direct prequel in some way. Thats my opinion.
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Unlimited Power
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 10:51 AMAll I have to say is that small discrepancies won't bother me at all if the film is good. To match the first one properly it would have to be a "retro futuristic" film, and I don't know if that would be interesting at all. The most important thing [to me] in Science Fiction is the ideas. Not small details about when something did or did not take place. Watching the trailer from Prometheus it's obvious that it won't be much Alien-like in terms of look and technology, but does that really matter?

Ripley Clone 8
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 10:57 AM@Unlimited Power, I agree. The small things, like going from the grittiness and dirtiness of ALIEN to the sterile and cleaner look of Prometheus doesn't bother me at all. In fact it makes it unique and it allows it to carry on with its own sense of style and voice. And thats one thing that all the 4 ALIEN films are good at doing, is "being different". Not just rehashing the same ideas again and again. FOX always picks a great and brilliant director that takes the ALIEN elements and makes them his own. So all tiny fined details that are different are actually better in my opinion. The Technology is different but that makes sense because its from a different time. To me it makes sense why there are many differences and to me thats what makes each ALIEN film stand out.
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Gavin
MemberTrilobiteMar-25-2012 11:34 AMI have said it many, many times Prometheus is a movie exploring the Space Jockey, and is set in the same universe as the Alien movies, where it made its first (and only) appearance back in 1979.
Ridley Scott says in the commentary for the DVD of Alien that he was surprised that none of the Alien sequels asked about or explored the Space Jockey, so he has decided to do so himself.
It is both a prequel and a spin-off of Alien, that most likely doesn't feature the Alien.

Ash Science Officer
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 12:28 PM/ exactly, the big error of the whole saga, only look for the future, including the original film never touched on the subject of SJ, when the crew back to Nostromo, they forget the "discovery of the century" and focus only on Kane and Alien/Xeno.
in A L I E N S the same: no one mentions the SJ...

Guest
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 1:12 PMIts interesting how Ash (directed by the Company) completely ignores the discovery of the SJ and what technologies may exist inside the derelict only to focus on the xenomorph specimen....
Its almost as if once having made the discovery of the derelict SJ ship Ash is immediately clued in that the xenomorph is the true treasure on board that ship.
If Ash did not have any sort of pre-knowledge (fyi Prometheus was the god of foresight) he would not know whether to concentrate on the discovery of the egg and the xenomorph or urge the crew to investigate the derelict further in the possibility that even greater discoveries await.
Whatever happens on the planet in the movie Prometheus will have a bearing on the alien(s) timeline. Assuming planet Earth is saved in Prometheus, the Company however is still imbued with the knowledge that some sort of possible ultimate biological technology exists in the possession of the SJs. The Company forever will attempt to discover other planetary bases of the SJs in the hopes of finding this technology again.
Thus Prometheus is a prequel to the events of the next movie setting up the who, why, what and where's rather than having a direct bearing on the details of the story. Obviously, none of the characters in Prometheus feature in Alien (and I dare to include the xenomorph or anything similar).

purplest33l
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 1:24 PMCould the events in Prometheus lead to the reasons why the Company knows what may lie on LV-426?
I mean, how does Ash know that the xenomorph is the significant find on the planet and not all the alien technology that may exist on the derelict SJ ship?
Either a previous crew was already sent to the planet (unlikely) or Ash and the Company are already clued in that the SJ tech may be valuable in itself, it is the xenomorph and whatever bio tech is container in its genes that constitutes the true treasure.

Unlimited Power
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 3:35 PM"If there were a sequel to this movie, it would not be 'Alien,'" insists Lindelof. "There's an inevitability, in watching a prequel, where you're like, 'OK, if the ending of this movie is just going to be the room that John Hurt walks into, that's full of eggs, there's nothing interesting in that because we know where it's going to end.' With really good stories, you don't know where it's going to end. So this movie, hopefully, will contextualize the original 'Alien,' so that when you watch it again, maybe you know a little bit more."
But, Lindelof adds, "If we're fortunate enough to do a sequel to 'Prometheus,' it will tangentialize even further away from the original 'Alien.' When you go to the concert that is this movie, you want the Stones to play 'Satisfaction.' There is this sense of us saying, 'We want you to do something new, Ridley, but just give us a little bit of space jockey. Just play it! Even in the encore.' And, I think Ridley has given us the movie that we all want to see."
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