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MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:15 PMOk I understand Prometheus is not a direct prequel, besides containing the derelict, lv 426, xenomorph, SJs and so on...
However I think it is, and if it is, then some things in Alien and Aliens don't make sense
1.the complete lack of knowledge in 'Alien' of the derelict..surely if a Prometheus mission of this scale was carried out, then people/the public would know about this operation which involved contact with the space jockeys
2.Meeting room in 'Aliens' when the suit says 'it's a rock, no indigenous life' again the company seem to be completely ignorant to the existence of a xenomorph, SJs or a derelict..
Of course they could be hiding the truth but they seem genuinely unaware...
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flacnvinyl
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:22 PM1. We have no idea whether the Prometheus mission was announced publicly, or if so to what end. It might have been a secret mission. It is also possible to announce this as a mission to explore the outer reaches of space. Don't go Star Trek on me, but that could be the public face of the mission.
2. The company knows. Burke was not ignorant.

MidnightHorrors
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:30 PMThe whole thing is privately funded no one other than the executive board is going to know the truth.
I doubt the company is going to tell a couple of expendable miners about the dangers.

dopelganger
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:39 PMHere we go Aliens again. Wait for the movie to come out all your questions will be answered...........or not.
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pvt.Wierzbowski
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:42 PMIt could be the other way around.
it's possible the suited executive is probably not even able to remember the codename of the planet. It's possible he is focused on space travel regulation business. He is focused on maintaing of his small empire of lackeys.
But Burke, more technically oriented and lower positioned could have more information than the executive. He is ambitious and he knows more than his boss and he wants to use these information for himself.
Nothing unusual in corporate culture today.

CBT1979
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:42 PMI think the Prometheus mission was not announced that big like the
first manned space journeys by the Russians, Americans, Europeans and Chinese
in the 20th and 21st century in real human history.
I guess that space faring is quite normal in the timeline of Prometheus and Alien,
and the trip to the coordinates given by the ancient alien artefacts could be a big
flop and that they might find nothing at all.
As for Aliens, I think Ridley might ignore that sequel as it was not within his vision for Alien.
And even if he's not ignoring, but only the top leaders of company Weyland Yutani might know about the Prometheus expedition and that noone made it back.
Well, let's wait and see the movie. ^^

T-Minus-Five
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:48 PM@the coming
I kinda know where you're 'coming' from ;)
About your #2 comment - perhaps there are no survivors from Prometheus or no one makes it back to Earth for word to spread of what happened.
TM5

craigamore
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:56 PMAll of my previous posters have good points......
- The Prometheus mission likely secret
- The mission probably never makes it back, therefore, no one does know about the SpaceJockey race and the Company probably only knows, at the highest of levels, that the mission went to find alien life. What alien life, if any they found, isn't known to the Company as a whole or even the highest level as no one makes it back alive.
- There's a high probability that the planet in 'Prometheus' is not the planetoid in 'Alien'. I'm betting they are separate satelites of the ringed planet orbiting Zeta II Reticuli. If it is the same planetoid as in 'Alien', again, no one makes it back to tell anybody anything....so no one knows.....
- Ripley is the only survivor in 'Alien', by the time she wakes in 'Aliens', 57 years have passed and no one knows what may or may be on LV-426, because no one, until Ripley, was in a position to tell anyone anything. Between films, that 57 years could have seen the signal die out.....no one knows.
- Burke and the Company don't actually know what's there until Ripley makes her statement. Otherwise, they would have had the colony check a hell of a lot sooner and before Ripley was around to tell them anything.
- The meeting in which that woman calls the planetoid a rock with no indigenous life is a meeting full of Company representatives AND Government officials AND ICC (Interestellar Commerce Commission) reps AND Colonial Administartion officials as well. Why woould the Company be stupid enough to admit knowledge of anything in that kind of meeting...essentially admitting their guilt in trying to harvest hostile, potentionally genocidally dangerous alien life? And we don't know who that womn is or who she represents either.....
We're imagining these continuity issues....

ShinobiX9X
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 1:21 PMMaybe that's why RS doesn't want to make a real prequel, but a different story which includes answers to questions about Alien

T-Minus-Five
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 1:28 PMHmm, it's a good point you make about it maybe not being LV-426, but perhaps another planet in the Z2R area. Otherwise they would have found the crashed Prometheus on LV-426 as well.
I don't know if anyone has ever mentioned that as a fact!??!
TM5

craigamore
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 1:37 PMSome of the news shots in the full length and IMAX trailers show the ringed planet and its moons as well.

dallas!dallas!
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 2:09 PM@ the coming
The whole series is full of continuity errors that are then only rationalized afterwards by fanboys and girls. The Ash inclusion confuses the logic of the original, the whole no one noticing the warning signal from the SJ ship in Aliens, it just goes on and on. But that is what fanboys are for. Too create the most far fetched but barely possible reasons for things to fit.
@flacnvinyl
Burke did not know about the derelict until his meeting Ripley. It is only then that he sends colonists to investigate. The problem is that the signal has been going out for how many years and suddenly the company forgets all about it? But one cannot think too deeply about these things . . .

royal-jelly
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 2:18 PMif that is LV426, how did the planet get so cold and messed up like in alien. Theories, anybody?

Guest
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 2:29 PMI dont think the company did know anything until the failed Prometheus mission where none survives. Perhaps they managed to send a message back that takes 30 years to make its journey back to home base. Then the only ship close enough is the ill fated Nostromo.....but then Ash already knows about a Xenomorph doesnt he? So either there WILL be a Xenomorph in Prometheus or somebody has made a grave continuity error lol. Actually, thinking about this. Ash says its the perfect organism doesnt he? So the company knows of the Xenomorph, but nobody mentions the the crashed ship or the space jockey because only Dallas, Kane and Lambert actually see it, but never discuss it between the crew for some odd reason. Surely Ash should have gone on the walkabout to research the Space Jockey AND ship aswell as the Xenomorph. So how does Ash know about only the Xenomorph? I mean, the Nostromo was on its way home....how long is the journey? which they have already made one way? Alien is begining to not make sense to me now. Im going to research this more closely.

Microsis
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 2:53 PM@royal-jelly The Norstromo landed during a store. In the Promethues trailer they land with no storm then one blows in. There is a scene in the trailer that looks like LV-426 after the storm starts.

Guest
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 3:00 PMI probably just froze with sheer boredom........and called itself LV426 and then
gave out a huge YYYAAAWWNNNN!!!!!

Kane77
MemberOvomorphMar-27-2012 3:31 AMjust IMAGINE, MAYBE Scott will do ANOTHER prometheus.
I think there will be still some questions..

mlb127
MemberOvomorphMar-27-2012 3:31 AMperhaps the derelict in Alien is repaired and moved after the Nostromo? Or maybe Ridley wants to go in a different direction with the storyline and continuity with Aliens and is trying not to offend Camerons' film or our respect for the films as they are.
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