Is Ridley Scott sexist?

dallas!dallas!
MemberOvomorphApril 12, 20125104 Views51 RepliesIt is time we men spoke up for ourselves. For too long, men have been given shallow roles, needing to be rescued by the smarter, tougher, more pragmatic women. It is unfair, unright, ungood, and unacceptable. Look at how men are portrayed in the original Alien--dim (Brett), lazy (Parker), lazy and dim (Dallas), or even British! (Kane and Ash). This blatant sexism has to stop. It reinforces stereotypes that have damaged men for generations. I fear we will see more dim, lazy and British men in Prometheus. Act now! Tell Scott his old fashion views have no place in 2012 or 2087!
April 12, 2012
alteredstate, even funnier (when thinking about expendables) is that Stallone wanted to play Edgar Allen Poe, I mean seriously wanted to write, direct and star in a bio-pic about Poe. And you know what, I would actually pay to see that.
April 12, 2012
A true "numbskull" movie is 'The Three Stooges', opening tomorrow. :-)
(alright, I'm done with bringing other movies up)
Haujobb - Membrane / Acretongue Remix
April 12, 2012
@membrane
Yeah, I got it, but hey, how can anyone not love Van Damme? It just makes no sense.
April 12, 2012
Its not just Scott!!
For the love of God man, they BENT HARRISON FORD OVER A PINBALL MACHINE with that Cystal Skunk movie!
Over a Pinball Machine I tellz yah !!!
: P
April 12, 2012
@ Canada Phil
LOL.
But hey, at least we have Shia Lebouf to carry on Ford's legacy.
And now to work . . .
April 12, 2012
Yeah, Totally agree!
Women should go back to be between a fist and a stove.
Women are like Facehuggers, their only purpose is breeding.
Women can't drive cars, why do I see women drive succesfully cars in movies, escapes me!
Ok, all this was pure sarcasm, and my views are almost exactly the opposite.
But I hope all you others were being sarcastic too.
Cheers
April 12, 2012
Oh my... USHBUCK would have loved this topic, its INTENSITY...
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
April 12, 2012
You scared me there for a second Ghorgul.....but seriously, can't we just come to a point where people accept that there are capable members of both sexes just as htere are complete and total morons of both sexes and...guess what....shit happens and sometimes guys look stupid, sometimes women look stupid in film because THOSE CHARACTERS HAPPEN TO BE THAT WAY.......who cares? I mean, really...Sure, 'Alien' tore down that barrier for women to an extent, so there it is...whatever happens is whatever happens......I realized a long time ago that I should be respecting an individual for who they are rather than the nature of the genitalia, skin color, etc., etc. etc. It isn't that hard to just let things be....it really isn't....
April 12, 2012
@Dallas!Dallas!
Hey pal, I absolutly agree with you. You might get a kick outta something I posted a while back, when the sequel to Carpenter's THE THING was released. Here it is below:
The Thing is…
Well, I saw “THE THING” prequel last night. (NO SPOILERS) If I compare it to the average Science fiction/Horror film…it wasn’t terrible, and had some pretty interesting ideas. On the other hand, if I compare it to truly excellent films of the genre, of which there are few (Carpenter’s THE THING, ALIEN), it’s quite weak and feeble…at best.
The setting/atmosphere was a bit stale…and “diet Coke.” Like its predecessor, there should have been more of a…pardon the pun, “Who Goes There?” sense of paranoia in the air. Also, I never really got the sense of bitter cold, and the frigid reality that it would be in Antarctica. The extra-terrestrial monster manifestations are pretty cool designs, with some rip-offs…or homage to the original The Thing, Alien, From Beyond, Leviathan, etc. A few of the effects are crap, right out of a “Sifi channel” original movie, but most are passable or good. The films editing and pacing is a bit off, and the third act feels rushed.
However, I will sacrifice criticizing everything for a solid story, believable characters, and realistic, interesting dialogue.
The question is: Who goes to see Science Fiction Horror Films?
I mean…Who goes there?!
I’ll tell you who goes there. MALES. That’s right! Males between the ages of 10 and 50. Sure you have a couple of “here and theres,” but by and large, it’s “Dudes” who make or break a SciFi/horror film’s box-office success.
So why in God’s name, do filmmakers continue to shove and shoehorn female characters into traditional “male roles”? Once again, I’ll tell you why…to push a liberal, feminist agenda. These roles are traditional because they work…and are more realistic. This is an unpopular and fairly taboo subject in today’s society. You would think, they would be smart…and greedy enough to realize that sometimes you cannot accomplish both box-office success, and political correctness simultaneously. Alas, they’re too numb to figure out this equation.
When I saw the film last night, there were about 70 or 80 people in the audience…give or take. Only 6 or 7 were female. This is what I talking about. This is a “Guy flick,” whether people like it or not. So, all the males in the theater sat there and watched a woman shell out most of the flame throwing and alien ass-kickins. In my humble opinion, this is the main reason why this movie will fail. To tell you the truth, I actually, really liked the lady protagonist’s character…a lot! Doesn’t change the fact, that deep down, males want to identify with a male protagonist.
One could say: “Well it worked in “ALIEN” with Ripley”. My answer for that would be: It worked in ALIEN, first of all, because it was a novelty. It had never…really been done before.
Secondly, in the original ALIEN, Ripley was not the Rambo type of character she was eventually developed into. She was a young, responsible officer, who had command authority and terrible decisions thrust upon her, in an impossible situation.
Thirdly, ALIEN was less of an action picture, and more of a horror film. Therefore, Ripley fit perfectly into the horror genre’s male psychological…Beauty and the Beast cycle, where male viewers are free to be scared and terrified, vicariously through a female character’s predicament…without injuring their own tender male ego.
Ultimately, I enjoyed a lot of the elements in the new “THE THING” film…but it’s still weak, and pales in comparison to the original.
~Neurion
April 12, 2012
Neurion,
You need to read or re-read craigamore's previous post. Also, Dallas!Dallas! was being sarcastic.
April 12, 2012
I am so going to burn for this but.....
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April 12, 2012
as Biomechanic once said..."If I hear the words..."You complete me" in this thing I'll be walking out".
April 12, 2012
zedwardson, yes you deserve to burn for that, and I hope the burn is in your bad place.
Just kidding.
April 12, 2012
i just watched the thing yesterday run of the mill horror yarn with a few ok thrills.
Having said that its what i expected and leads into the carpenter film quite as expected.
Noted that alec gillis and tom woodruff were responsible for the effects. the team behind the last 3 alien films but i still think rob botins work is superior.