Derelict damage mystery

@Ventham, Having just watched this scene last night, I completely agree that the egg chamber looks identical in structure and makeup to the hallways and pilot room of the derelict. I just don't buy that something so endlessly cavernous could be part of the ship itself. If so, Ridley, who is a master of detail, completely dropped the ball on the scale of the egg chamber then. I understand Ridley has mentioned that he envisioned the derelect ship as a sort of carrier of the eggs. Of course, I think this was years after the movie was produced. So who knows. Why would Ridley design the egg chamber to be that massive, and offer up the scale of what we're looking at by showing how tiny Kane is descending into it? Surely, he must have thought that the room was too big to be inside the derelict ship. Then again, an advanced race with that level of technology could surely transform an underground cave to resemble exactly what the inside of the derelict ship looks like. In fact, I would expect that to be the case.

The reason the egg chamber looks the same as the pilot's chamber is because it IS the same chamber. Watch the most recent "making of" documentary about the making of Alien (not "The Beast Within", etc. etc. from the boxed set - there is another one that was made slightly later but i cannot remember what it was called) and they mention that they simply re-dressed the Space Jockey set for the egg chamber (obviously without the big turntable that had the jockey on it). The painting, however, STILL doesn't look right. The proportions are wrong, the angles are off, it's just not a good match-up with the dimensions of the model; heck, I noticed that even back in 1979 when I was 11 years old seeing it in the theater for the second or third time. Back then I took Kane at his word when he called it a 'cave.' Later I found out that it was meant to be the ship's hold and I thought to myself "Uh-uh. It doesn't look right." And I still don't think it does.

@Mr. Ventham - no, the crew does not enter through a gash in the ship. Watch The Making of Alien documentary (the one from the boxed set). Someone uploaded it to youtube, you can find it if you type in The Beast within [The making of A L I E N]. Among the myriad excised scenes and clips, you will see a shot of Dallas, Parker and Lambert clambering up the 'vaginal' opening into the ship (the view is from the inside of the ship looking outward). I cannot remember which segment of the documentary it is shown in (there's different sections: "Direction and Design," "Casting," "Visual Effects," etc.) but if you watch the entire thing you will see the clip. In "Aliens," the derelict is meant to have been damaged by a lava flow (as per Cameron) which is why the Jordens enter the ship through a tear in the hull.

Want PROOF that the egg chamber/cavern in Alien is not a part of the derelict ship? Accepting that the ship in Prometheus (if a different ship than the derelict in Alien) is the same class of ship, how do those people who think the egg chamber is on the ship account for this: [img]http://cdn.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Screen-Shot-2012-03-20-at-21.04.17.png[/img] This scan clearly shows the orrery room in which the big chair/gun thing come up from the floor. It's the round chamber at the center of the "horseshoe". Now, remember in Alien, Kane was lowered on a cable far below that room through a hole in the floor down into the massive egg chamber. As you can see in the diagram, there is just no room for that beneath the orrery. Even if you try to argue that the large chamber at the center of the horseshoe in the scan is the egg chamber how do you explain that in Alien the egg chamber/cavern consisted of one massive tunnel that looked like it receded into the distance for a mile (or miles) when the 3D scan that Janek and Vickers are looking at on Prometheus shows a series of (relatively) small separate chambers connected by even smaller tunnels? I don't think they would "screw up" and make the 3D scan in Prometheus not representative of what the derelict would look like on the inside as well.

The Engineer and the Deacon get back onto the planet in Vickers 'module' (escape pod). There are actually 3 Juggernaut ships on the planet (LV-426). Shaw escapes the planet with David's help (his head). David knows Shaw from the time she was a child.