Alien Revelations - WIP synopsis

"The 'Alien Resurrection' novel says the Derelict was destroyed in the AP station explosion, so logically, the Derelict must've been within the blast radius." So I guess we're all clear since this W.I.P. is based on films only. Where were we?

@Spartacus; And Thank You for the apology. XD

again, the novel is not canon, only the films, unless it states in Aliens, Alien 3 or Alien rez that the derelict was in the blast radius, then it is fair game. ...In the novel of alien it says there is a petrified alien in the jockey room, but in the film there is nothing of the sort. not being funny but the films are the source, thus they are the canon. not being an arse but trying to get across the point that only the films are canon.

sorry just saw your edited post! whatever people think needs to be brought up, bring up people

@TheNextLV426... shouldn't an LV-233 be relatively close to a LV-426? I'm "jst sayin'" [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1stpingpong.gif[/img]

Just a thought here. The Sulaco had nukes. Ripley was hellbent on destroying the alien threat and any possibility that the company could come back an revisit the site. I believe it to require a suspension of disbelief on our part if we are to assume that Ripley left LV-426 without making absolutely sure that the explosion didn't encompass the derelict......else, she would have sent down nukes to the gird location (that we know she knew because she is the one that told the company). So let's say she was distressed and forgot to dot this "i" and leave the system without making sure that the threat as far as LV-426 was concerned was over. In addition, in Alien Res., why wouldn't they have gone back to LV-426 to the direct source, the derelict, instead of all that pain-staking dna/cloning stuff?

"1. The main story telling of a Weyland-Yutani R&D vessel landing on LV-426. Officially, they are there to ascertain the cause and damage caused by the destroyed Atmosphere Processor. Unofficially they are there to ascertain if the Derelict was affected, and if not to acquire the specimens they so desire." If the Derelict was unaffected then there would be no need for Alien Res., no?

nuking from orbit wasn't shown. This synopsis is why they went through all the cloning stuff

they still wanted Ripleys Queen...as it turned out IMO but that's a great point.

[img]http://time.absoluteavp.com/pics/galmap.gif[/img] [url=http://time.absoluteavp.com/pics/galmap.gif]Enlarged Version Here[/url] [url=http://time.absoluteavp.com/alienmaps.html]Source[/url] I found this image that kind of sheds some light as to where things are in THIS Alien/Aliens/Alien3 "universe". Well, to be precise, we're only talking about a small segment of the Milky Way Galaxy that humans would be able to get to.

"This synopsis is why they went through all the cloning stuff" Got it. I wasn't sure where you were heading with this. Now, I'm onboard.

Ok, Snorky For purposes of continuity and to add some more depth to what we're doing lets says like I have always been preaching the company has had a vessel in or around what is going on out in Z2R from about the time of aliens and out of sheer spite lets say the ship is ran by droids. Thus no ability to get infected by a xeno but are able to study, this removes your whole camera theory, albeit a little bit more convoluted. A whole covert science crew at HH running in parallel to the marines and keeping a low profile would make a whole lot of sense. This would lend credence to Call hitting the mainframe before blowing her modem and downloaded the companies black ops stuff. Rick

Rick thats, similar, if a little OTT, to what I have in mind, will leak a little info before I retire to bed.

I like it Rick Man that's reeeeeal good.

@Rick; And THAT is why Annalee Call is my second fave android ever.

Snorky, Right I agree but remember we went round and round about this from the following post: Staff Send PMPosted 01/31/2012 | Edit This is more for Snorky, but anyone is welcome to jump in if they wish. Ok, I have a theory about some things that don't add up from Alien through to Alien3. Corporate Knowledge of the Derelict Signal and possibly the payload is almost a given anymore. Then take in the aspect of Prometheus coming out and how in the hell do you tie in all the Alien Franchise with the movie; the answer is corporate knowledge. Alien - Aliens What doesn't add up, no corp knowledge in Alien? Not a chance: Ash sends corporate the information he was gathering from the facehugger and the xeno. When Special Order 937 comes in and he's put in survey mode to only watch and report what happens. So the Corporation knows about LV-426 and sends in the shake and bake colony in Aliens but the coordinates are smoked with the Nostromo Aliens What doesn't add up here. 1. Bishop: 40 Minutes to crawl down there, 1 hour to patch in and align the antenna, and 50 minutes flight time. Thats 2.5 hours, not a chance, you'll see why. At this time Bishop has already gathered all of the data from his biopsy's of face huggers, and I am sure there were bodies in the morgue that he was examining. 2. Burke: Ok right before the full on assault Burke, where is Burke? I don't think Burke dumped the hugger flasks I will exaplain in detail once I get to Aliens 2.5. We all know he covered it up by shutting off the screen for the camera. Now during the full on assault by the xeno's of operations Burke hauls tail through the corridor and then locks the door and starts heading out like he's going somewhere, hmm...... Now on to Aliens 2.5 The corporation had full blown knowledge of the xeno during the entire movie series Alien - Alien 3, but could never get a live specimen. I think they had a ship tailing the Nostromo to record and analyze what happened once the Nostromo returned from the surface with an infected crew member. Then why wouldn't the company also have a secondary science vessel already in orbit or arriving shortly after the Sulaco? Its there Multi-million dollar atmosphere processor and a multi-million dollar prize for the bio-weapons division, then to send a lowly henchman like Burke, c'mon really? Burke sent them to look for the ship and that was probably to get his cut of some crazy amount of money from one of his superiors. I think there was a science team at Hadley's hope that was in contact with Burke and Bishop this explains the amount of time it takes for Bishop to get the drop ship, why he disappeared with the ship, and why Burke was runnign like he had somewhere to go when the xeno's came. Alot of the idiosyncrancies make sense when you look at it from the perspective that the corporation knew everything from day one. Regards, Rick

Snorks, From that post I made way back in January why couldn't the eggs already be on the drop ship when Bishop remote piloted the ship down and had it do a small detour to the science team at the derelict while it was enroute to get them from HH. That would make sense since it really only takes about 10-20 minutes to land from space on such a small rock and the eggs hitting the Sulaco Regards, Rick

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@Spartacus; Lance Henriksen is awesome, look what he does for a fan in this link. Click--->[url=http://youtu.be/-SV-ZVTXQHI]Lance Henriksen "Bishop" performs knife trick on Sean Maio[/url]

Priceless ! Thank you...Love the guy !

I think there are a lot of plot points in Alien3 that do not make any sense at all.. (I wont even talk about AlienS because we could fill a book on the some of the idiotic things happening there), but anyway.... Without even realizing it, when Ripley is being scanned in the wreckage of the the lifepod, the data is being relayed back to the corporation apparently in REAL TIME?... and an acknowledgement message is received on the display screen almost immediately after Ripleys scan is finished?... Huhhhhh ????? A Weyland frigate is on route and is only HOURS away from Fury 161? Huhhh????? ( I guess we are to assume that that vessel had already been dispatched a couple weeks earlier when the Sulaco is overdue?) I dont know the name of the new vessel that arrives at Fury, but in the short shot of it in low orbit over the surface, if you look closely you can see its a frigate in the exact same configuration of the Sulaco... which is curious at it would indicate that Weyland already has its own fleet of combat captial ships with mercenary crews??? (We saw at least 2 of them in white accompanying Bishop at the end)... OK... if thats the case, why the hell did they have to have COLONIAL MARINES go to LV426???

I believe someone said that sending in the marines was really a suicide mission to further research the combat abilities of their soon to be new bio-weapon product. The Sulaco and everyone onboard, just like the HH colony, were all expendable/"all other priorities rescinded". Let's watch the amateurs (Colonial Marines) go in and face-plant, then the "real" team goes in to collect weapon (the bug).

Plenty of food for thought to collate there, but please do keep them coming. I'm still thinking of a name for the vessel, Magellan would be good but it may feature in Prometheus, so I'll ponder on that on, unless of course there are any suggestions. Heres some little leaks of the main story I promised... 1. Bishop II will be shown inside a pod withe the words "bio-synthetic", alongside other Bishop synthetics, infering that he was a synthetic. 2. Although the main atmosphere processor is destroyed, the other two are fully functional (Jim Cameron originally intended there to be three) 3. Although the Derelict is still intact, it is empty - all the eggs and the Space Jockeys remains have disappeared. Love to end on a cliffhanger... Keep the suggestions and comments coming guys.

Snorkelbottome, Why not name the ship the Costaguana or something else related to Nostromo or another of Conrad's literary works keeping more in line with Alien and Aliens?

I do have more suggestions for you on the name but Magellan is the one I like best, here are some more Snorkelbottom... Posted by some guy named savagedoc45 somewhere else... Victory Fearless Ironsides Invictus Dreadnought Felix Imperator Lightning Beserker Beowulf Gladiator Victrix Augustus Ferrata Fulminata Siegfried Yamato Yamamoto Hood Tripitz Bismarck Reagan Nimitz Washington Constitution Undying Glory Nelson Britania Columbia Nike Fenris Hammerhead Great White Orca Barracuda Serpent Kraken Chimera Wolverine Grizzly Executor Astoreth Shaitan Sammael Azrael Sabbaoth Lucifer …etc. Do go with; Battles, Leaders, mythological beasts, virtuous qualities, minor gods/spirits, ferocious animals, previous ship names from your chosen culture, especially "lucky" ones Do NOT go with; Major god/goddesses/spirits, anything too difficult to pronounce (for you), obscure references, anything complicated.

So he can't name the ship Hova? I hope Jay-Z is not a fan. LOL Wolverine is on there too, how about Cyclops or Magneto. haha

damn I like that name too man, I immediately thought of "Dire Straights" singing "Money For Nothing"... "Mova Mova" only "Hova Hova"

Hell, why not the Necronomicon? Talk about homage to the series.

If your collating you must be an Android. I don't trust Androids.

If you are collating, then you are probably an Android...I don't trust freakin Androids.

where'd my post go?

[quote]where'd my post go?[/quote] which post?

where I named the ship

Never saw it, Just the last one where you mentioned Megellan, but maybe, and this is a real stab in the dark Snorky I do not think it came even close to happening...Last night at around 12:30 - 2a.m. a Spammer came in and left 6 at least posts in this thread, I deleted them one by one paying special attention not to mess up anything and was most successful...But maybe I deleted 1 too many and accidentally deleted yours, however like I said I can be quite certain that was NOT the case, I never saw ANY POST YOU MADE AFTER THE LAST ONE AS EARLY AS 2-2:30 AM THIS MORNING! By the way if you haven't seen cabin In The Woods yet please do so as a favor to me and then talk to me about it bro, you will understand why I asked you to see it once you do, Big Connection!

Will do sparky. the name of the ship is the USS Invictus, if you read the poem of the same name there are a lot of undertones that could be applied to W-Y's outlook of themselves and their quest to obtain the xenomorph.

Love it, was the 4th name on that post I posted from that "doc45" guy from some other forum I checked out yesterday.

Attention Snorklebottom! I have in my possession a gift form "the gods" as far as YOU in particular are concerned and all of us as a whole... It came to me from an anonymous source whom for various obvious reasons cannot post on these boards. ----------------------- Bonus #1->[b]"And I noticed another thing [in the post] about there being three AP stations on LV-426. Cameron originally scripted dialogue of there being “thirty or so” – not three."[/b] Bonus #2->Why was the USCSS Nostromo chosen for the mission to carry out Special Order 937? Answer; [b]"It was the next ship conveniently going near that area of space"[/b] Bonus #3->"The why and how of the Nostromo's science officer being replaced with Ash while the vessel is docked at Thedus." Answer; "[b]The Company intercepted and interpreted the Jockey transmission, organised the Nostromo to get re-routed and rotated off the science officer in order to ensure a specimen of whatever they might find was returned."[/b] Bonus #4->[b]The revelation in #2 is that the Company, not the Nostromo, first picked up the signal from the derelict. It then made sure Ash replaced their science officer at Thedus so as to protect anything that was gathered at the site of the distress signal. The Nostromo was the closest asset (their bad luck).[/b] Talk To Me Bro !!!

Well all of them answers are obvious, but on the screenplay I have on the two disc special edition of Aliens it states 3, not 30, atmosphere processors (30 processors would require a much bigger colony would it not)

They picked the Nostromo because of the inexperience of the crew. The captain is really incompetent making bad decisions. If you go by what is in the Aliens Quad. the first officer is an ex drug user who thinks before acting. The navigator does not want to be there. The engineers are useless as well. The only crew member who is anyway competent at their job is Ripley.

To start with,let's assume that only a handful of people know about the mission,which is proven by the briefing after hypersleep.So the prometheus mission is not even known by Weylands board of directors,so if Weyland and the prometheus never return no one will know anything.With the death of Weyland,his empire begins to fall apart and is eventually bought by the Yutani Corp.Let's assume Vickers' is his only family therefore all personal secrets are gone as well. Kind of cliche' but some type of clue is discovered, a clue he perhaps left in case they fail,similar to how the Jockeys left us clues.He would without a doubt admire and emulate them.Thus,the new journey begins.