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Engineer Xeno - Chr1s

MemberOvomorphMay 22, 20121662 Views18 Replies
Just wondering on how viewpoints concerning fear and phobias apply to the creatures in both Alien and Prometheus. For me the Facehugger represented two things - arachnaphobia and fear of suffocation (also there is the mention of the oral rape concept that was put forward by Dan O'Bannon) The Chestburster and now the Cobrahugger to me symbolise serpents and many people have a general fear of snakes (The cobrahugger seems to fit in with the facehugger's oral scenario as well) But ultimately the new creature we have seen (Mr. Tentacles) is just a mass of, well tentacles (from what has been revealed). So I am just wondering will this creature play on psychological fears and such or just be a big monstrous menace?
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BioShock
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BY the way critic reviews are out and Prometheus recieved 90/100. In comparison, Battleship recieved 52/100. Critics are not going to give 90/100 for a killer octopus.
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It speaks to my fear of crappy plot pointss created by washed up has been directors and writers who can't create a decent story arc on a bet, but that's just me.
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Marlene38EE
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Wow... I'm one at [i]'That Time Of The Month'[/i] and you're chewing on R. Scott before the movie's even out yet. SO...[i]why[/i] are you here again Outlander???
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I kind of agree with Outlander, from what I seen about the whole tentacle crap it doesn't feel like horror, just a huge octopus that came to be due to a species like conception( apparently holloway rapes shaw) I beg to eat my words, though it feels like a sick hentai japanese thing so far to me.
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A guy in a good rubber suit, is still, just a guy in a rubber suit. Seriously, the critiques of the monster aesthetics in this movie aren't jiving with what I'm seeing. Some eyeless cobra-thing that can instantly latch onto you through a space-suit, then[i] have its' way[/i] with you? That's not intimidating? Some kind of nematode that burrows into your eyeball, then f*cks with your DNA? That isn't insidious? A huge, [i]very Lovecraftian[/i] creature design with weirdly semi-rigid limbs and multiple bifurcated tentacles that can whip around you like a family of anacondas? That isn't [i]classic horror[/i]? I'm just not seeing the problem. What were some you folks looking for, more xenos?
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I thought the question being asked was about the fears that were brought up seeing this scene. Those are my fears. I certainly hope they are irrational and the film is good, but there's a lot of pressure retconning something that's 30 years old.
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Apologies Outlander. :) Lost the 'track' of things--spreading my brain to thin right now. ...and kinda hormonal, so again, my sincere apologies. My fear is that for some idiot reason it'll 'tank' at the boxoffice. Yes, I'm looking fwd to the sequel already... :D
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Blame it on Toho Company Ltd./anime/hentai =))
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They are few more terrifying things to me than to be immobilized by tons of tentacles and then it starts eating me. The most terrifying would be the anticipation of the first bite because you are stuck regardless of how hard you are fighting and you know pain and death are coming and you can only wait for it to start.

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

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Honestly I didn't want another xeno hell I didn't even expect one, but I was expecting something completely new. Horny tentacles is nothing new is just something that was so cheesy that its not on film anymore, kinda like "the blob" I do admit the CobraHugger looks badass, but im not too sure about cuddles...
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my lord...oh my...wow...just wow...AND NOTHING LESS. KINDA MAKES ME WANT TO ASK FOR YOU ALL TO SHOW ME THE WORK ALL OF YOU DID THAT'S ANY BETTER BUT I KNOW BETTER THAN TO DO THAT WITH YOU AT THIS POINT, BUT YOUR INTENT, ALMOST ALL OF YOU, IS SO CLEAR HERE..."LET'S KNOCK THIS FILM AND KNOCK IT'S DIRECTOR AS HARD AS WE CAN...WHO CARES IF WE HAVE SEEN THE FILM YET OR NOT WHY SHOULD THAT MATTER?" Please...do let me know when you regain your faith in him and this project and in the meantime here is some friendly information passed on with the total courage of every single possible conviction in my mind and body that this "thing"...is ALREADY A "MASTERPIECE IN THE CAN" WAITING TO BE UN LEASHED ON AN UN SUSPECTING PUBLIC... and with each little criticism you all level at it, that conviction, that this film is already a masterpiece, and that I am just going to LOVE this thing WAY MORE than any of you could comprehend and ten times more than that with each little completely unfounded insult you are all throwing at it in your "teen angst" like stupors!!! So...to that end...Here is the list of awards that the man you are all dumping on and forgone all faith in has already won for films that as far as I can tell right now, are all looking about HALF as great as this one does already!!! Awards for Ridley Scott AFI Awards, USA Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2002 Nominated AFI Film Award AFI Director of the Year for: Black Hawk Down (2001). AFI Movie of the Year for: Black Hawk Down (2001). Shared with: Jerry Bruckheimer Academy Awards, USA Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2002 Nominated Oscar Best Director for: Black Hawk Down (2001). 2001 Nominated Oscar Best Director for: Gladiator (2000). 1992 Nominated Oscar Best Director for: Thelma & Louise (1991). Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films, USA Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2004 Won George Pal Memorial Award One of our generation's finest filmmakers, Ridley began his career as a set designer for the BBC in the 60's. He soon became a television director working on such Brit shows as "Z Cars" (1962). He soon began his own company and showed his talent in directing innovative commercials in the 70's. He directed his first film, The Duellists (1977), in 1977. He would follow this up with Alien (1979) and Blade Runner (1982) which are both considered groundbreaking works of the genre. Other classic films directed by Ridley include: Legend (1985), _Black Rain (1989/I)_ , Gladiator (2000), Hannibal (2001) and Black Hawk Down (2001). He is considered a legend in the genres we honor. 2001 Nominated Saturn Award Best Director for: Gladiator (2000). 1983 Nominated Saturn Award Best Director for: Blade Runner (1982). 1980 Won Saturn Award Best Director for: Alien (1979). BAFTA Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2008 Nominated BAFTA Film Award Best Film for: American Gangster (2007). Shared with: Brian Grazer 2001 Nominated David Lean Award for Direction for: Gladiator (2000). 1995 Won Michael Balcon Award 1992 Nominated BAFTA Film Award Best Direction for: Thelma & Louise (1991). Best Film for: Thelma & Louise (1991). Shared with: Mimi Polk Gitlin Bodil Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 1992 Won Bodil Best Non-European Film (Bedste ikke-europæiske film) for: Thelma & Louise (1991). Boston Film Festival Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2003 Won Film Excellence Award Cannes Film Festival Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 1977 Won Best First Work for: The Duellists (1977). Unanimously. Nominated Palme d'Or for: The Duellists (1977). Chicago Film Critics Association Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 1992 Nominated CFCA Award Best Director for: Thelma & Louise (1991). César Awards, France Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 1992 Nominated César Best Foreign Film (Meilleur film étranger) for: Thelma & Louise (1991). DVD Exclusive Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2003 Won DVDX Award Best Audio Commentary (New for DVD) for: Alien (1979). Shared with: Ronald Shusett Terry Rawlings Sigourney Weaver Tom Skerritt Veronica Cartwright Harry Dean Stanton John Hurt (Alien Quadrilogy). Nominated DVD Premiere Award Best Audio Commentary, Library Release for: Legend (1985). For the Ultimate Edition. 2001 Nominated Video Premiere Award Best DVD Audio Commentary for: Gladiator (2000). For the Signature Selection. David di Donatello Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 1992 Nominated David Best Foreign Film (Miglior Film Straniero) for: Thelma & Louise (1991). 1978 Won David Best Foreign Director (Migliore Regista Straniero) for: The Duellists (1977). Tied with Herbert Ross for The Goodbye Girl (1977). Directors Guild of America, USA Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2002 Nominated DGA Award Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Motion Pictures for: Black Hawk Down (2001). 2001 Nominated DGA Award Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Motion Pictures for: Gladiator (2000). 1992 Nominated DGA Award Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Motion Pictures for: Thelma & Louise (1991). Emmy Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2011 Nominated Emmy Outstanding Drama Series for: "The Good Wife" (2009). Shared with: David W. Zucker (executive producer) Tony Scott (executive producer) Courtney Kemp Agboh (producer) Keith Eisner (co-executive producer) Michelle King (executive producer) Leonard Dick (co-executive producer) Corinne Brinkerhoff (producer) Robert King (executive producer) Ted Humphrey (co-executive producer) Brooke Kennedy (executive producer) Outstanding Miniseries or Made for Television Movie for: "The Pillars of the Earth" (2010). Shared with: David W. Zucker (executive producer) Rola Bauer (executive producer) Michael Prupas (executive producer) David A. Rosemont (executive producer) Tim Halkin (executive producer) Jonas Bauer (executive producer) John Ryan (producer) Tony Scott (executive producer) Outstanding Nonfiction Special for: Gettysburg (2011) (TV). Shared with: Tony Scott (executive producer) Christopher G. Cowen (producer) David McKillop (executive producer for history) Mary Donahue (executive producer for history) Julian Hobbs (executive producer for history) Mary Lisio (executive producer) 2010 Nominated Emmy Outstanding Drama Series for: "The Good Wife" (2009). Shared with: Tony Scott (executive producer) Brooke Kennedy (executive producer) David W. Zucker (executive producer) Michelle King (executive producer) Todd Ellis Kessler (co-executive producer) Ted Humphrey (co-executive producer) Robert King (executive producer) 2009 Nominated Emmy Outstanding Made for Television Movie for: Into the Storm (2009) (TV). Shared with: David M. Thompson (executive producer) Frank Doelger (produced by) Tracey Scoffield (produced by) Julie Payne (produced by) Ann Wingate (produced by) (HBO). 2008 Nominated Emmy Outstanding Miniseries for: "The Andromeda Strain" (2008). Shared with: Tony Scott (executive producer) David W. Zucker (executive producer) Tom Thayer (executive producer) Mikael Salomon (co-executive producer) Clara George (produced by) (A&E). 2002 Won Emmy Outstanding Made for Television Movie for: The Gathering Storm (2002) (TV). Shared with: Julie Payne (executive producer) Tony Scott (executive producer) Tracey Scoffield (executive producer for the bbc) Lisa Ellzey (co-executive producer) Frank Doelger (producer) David M. Thompson (producer) (HBO). 2000 Nominated Emmy Outstanding Made for Television Movie for: RKO 281 (1999) (TV). Shared with: Tony Scott (executive producer) Diane Minter Lewis (co-executive producer) Chris Zarpas (co-executive producer) Su Armstrong (HBO). Empire Awards, UK Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2001 Nominated Empire Award Best British Director for: Gladiator (2000). European Film Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2001 Nominated Audience Award Best Director for: Hannibal (2001). 2000 Nominated Screen International Award for: Gladiator (2000). USA. Fantasporto Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 1993 Nominated International Fantasy Film Award Best Film for: Blade Runner (1982). The director's cut. 1988 Nominated International Fantasy Film Award Best Film for: Someone to Watch Over Me (1987). 1983 Nominated International Fantasy Film Award Best Film for: Blade Runner (1982). Golden Globes, USA Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2008 Nominated Golden Globe Best Director - Motion Picture for: American Gangster (2007). 2001 Nominated Golden Globe Best Director - Motion Picture for: Gladiator (2000). Hugo Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 1983 Won Hugo Best Dramatic Presentation for: Blade Runner (1982). Shared with: Hampton Fancher (screenplay) David Webb Peoples (screenplay) Philip K. Dick (original novel) Italian National Syndicate of Film Journalists Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 1983 Nominated Silver Ribbon Best Director - Foreign Film (Regista del Miglior Film Straniero) for: Blade Runner (1982). Las Vegas Film Critics Society Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2000 Nominated Sierra Award Best Director for: Gladiator (2000). London Critics Circle Film Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2001 Nominated ALFS Award British Director of the Year for: Gladiator (2000). 1992 Won ALFS Award Director of the Year for: Thelma & Louise (1991). PGA Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2012 Nominated Television Producer of the Year Award in Episodic Drama for: "The Good Wife" (2009). Shared with: Tony Scott Michelle King Robert King David W. Zucker Brooke Kennedy 2003 Nominated Television Producer of the Year Award in Longform for: The Gathering Storm (2002) (TV). Shared with: Tony Scott Julie Payne Frank Doelger Palm Springs International Film Festival Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2001 Won Director's Achievement Award Sant Jordi Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2008 Won Audience Award Best Foreign Film (Mejor Película Extranjera) for: American Gangster (2007). Satellite Awards Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 2001 Nominated Golden Satellite Award Best Director for: Gladiator (2000). Valladolid International Film Festival Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s) 1991 Won Golden Spike for: Thelma & Louise (1991). Tied with The Adjuster (1991). [b]PLEASE LET ME KNOW THE MOMENT ANY OF YOU HAS won a Palme D'or at Cannes a Best director Oscar in Hollywood AND AN EMMY in NYC FOR YOUR WORK !!![/b] [b] PEACE...AND FOR WHAT'S WORTH, YOU ARE ALL EVERY ONE OF YOU...GONNA LOVE THIS FILM !!! I HAVE FAITH ENOUGH FOR ALL OF US !!![/b]
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Look, we havn't even seen the full monster yet. We obviously should know that there should be more of "Cuddles" to see that we havn't seen yet that will horrify us much more than we think. Maybe the tentacles do something we havn't even thought of before, like if they opened up into mouths.
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They have shown two creatures out of who knows how many others. We only see 1/16 of the actual octopus which could be on it's way into something else. Too early IMO to give negative feedback. Are you folks expecting another xeno like creature which has been done to death and likely boring to the audience. Perhaps the creatures in this movie changes into whatever the murals dictate above the pods or better yet what the individual fears the most. I have suspicions that shaw's octopus is likely her worse fear. Why? Out of all the things in the galaxy, why they hell would an octopus develop??? If the creature is meant to mix with dna of the human host (shaw)....why an octopus and not a 2 legged, 2 armed xeno type figure. Doesn't really make sense but at this point nothing should based on the trailers. Obviously a bunch of octopus' are not going to scare the crowd unless it is slowly transforming or praying on individual fear. why o' why is the engineer getting pwnd by it's own creatures. Something aint right!
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It's not an Octopus or a squid. Our brains go to the closest reference point and make a judgement based on available information. I did as well.....until I saw BIG CUDDLES! It has massive appendages and those two so called "tentacles" are it's tongues and it will EAT YOU ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cuddle-squid is interesting, but it's the hammerheadcobra I really want to know more about! ...and how the eye-squiggly ties in, etc.. I fear some dumb@$$ is gonna hack-up the editting and leave crucial footage on the floor. But, then again, this IS R.Scott, so I feel pretty safe trusting him to be careful about, well...everything.
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I think you'd be lucky to 'just' be eaten... From what we've seen thus far, the critters are much nastier than just looking for soft-pink Noms in high-tech wrappers. :-) I mean, listen to the audio 'Cut It Off' [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBwGaDafwbU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBwGaDafwbU[/url] ...the thing is doing some nasty stuff, and then there's that bit in the commercial where it's inside his helmet and dives into his mouth. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGs3F1sFhrc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGs3F1sFhrc[/url] That's fear-some...it's [i]inside your suit[/i], and there's [b]NO[/b] [i][/i]way you can interfere with it's intentions. Try clamping your mouth shut, it'd likely just break your teeth--or burn through them. I'd rather be eaten than used as a Host for whatever, or worse, have my DNA mangled and 'lose' myself. That snake thing...creeps me out worse than the Xenos ever did!! Never try to pet strange alien critters boy & girls!! LoL :-D
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Seems the board is pretty heated up and I hope I don't get any bashing, so here it goes. I agree with most of you here, Ridley Scott has done a lot of great movies. I am not going to lie, I do expect a lot from Prometheus especially since I am seeing it with all my friends on my b-day and most of us are fans of the first two alien movies.[size=200] But[/size] I trust Ridley will be give the best in this movie since he seems like a very demanding actor that pays extreme attention to detail. It seems though as if fan anticipation is turning for the worst and the decision has already been cast ...

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