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We Do Not Know Where Eggs Come From

Drakeequation

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I just wanted to start a discussion thread on this because there seems to be a great deal of confusion about what is meant by "Alien Prequel". Personally, I believe that Ridley Scott is only interested in creating threads that tie into his own Alien universe. This means that it is likely that Prometheus will not have strong ties to other Alien films or the comic books and novels based on the film. We must remember that Scott's Alien is likely much more complex than the Cameron insect-like carnivorous animal or the simple-minded invader bugs that Predators breed to then hunt as a ritual to ascend into adulthood. This could mean that there is no Alien Queen and that the explanation for where the eggs encountered by the crew of the Nostromo come from could be much more complex. We must remember that the Alien Queen, and subsequent dog alien, alien/human hybrid, and Predalien, are not a part of Scott's Alien universe. They were created by other directors and may have nothing to do with the breeding cycle Scott envisioned for his alien creature. If we take a look at the original Alien, we can see that there is no answer provided for where the eggs come from, what the Alien was doing to its victims on the Nostromo, or if the alien creature had even finished maturing. The whole "it was a worker drone" explanation was given to us by Cameron, not Scott. As of right now, we do not know if the creature in the original Alien was created by the engineers on purpose or resulted from something else. It could be possible that the genesis of that creature will be a consequence of the clash that takes place between the crew of the Prometheus and the Engineers. If so, it could mean that the Alien we see in Scott's original film is just the first step in a much larger breeding cycle.
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One theme I see revisited is that the xeno who popped out of the SJ's chest laid all the eggs in the silo. But based on Ridley's bomber theory, wouldn't that make the eggs intentionally placed there by the crew as weapons cargo? That would in turn make the blue containment beam and/or proximity alarm a protocol that the SJs were following. Could the xeno(s) have activated that beam to preserve the eggs? Unlikely because the egg silo has a clear sense of "neatness" to it. In support of this (and because Ridley is willing to accept Cameron's work as canon) remember that in ALIENS the xeno hive is a rather messy affair. We can further speculate that the Nostromo crew did not reach far enough into the derelict to witness the remains of the rest of the crew, or the SJ in the chair was the only crew member on the ship to begin with. Thanks everyone for sharing your theories and ideas.
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To add to my 'what to regard as canon' comment: New interview with Rolling stone magazine [url=http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/ridley-scott-on-his-new-movie-prometheus-mad-men-and-a-blade-runner-sequel-20120523]http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/ridley-scott-on-his-new-movie-prometheus-mad-men-and-a-blade-runner-sequel-20120523[/url] What do you think of the other Alien films that followed your original? I don't count the last few movies. I know why they did it: to promote the franchise and, hello, it's about money. This is not denigrating any filmmaker, because it is hard enough, God knows. But I really was a little bit upset by how my baby was being misused. We came up with one of the best all-time monsters. Without that monster, I've got a nice, very well-acted, beautifully art-directed movie, but I ain't got that fucking heart-stopping son of a bitch that defies logic.
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i refrenced this before in a post about the origins of the eggs a while back... My theory is highly speculative, taking refrence from what we have seen, the weyland industries arg/website/wtf?, and general ideas of advanced behaviour. Gigers world and ridleys vision have both circled around the idea of bio-mechanics. What if the original eggs on board the derelict were in fact mechanical in origin but were somehow forced to become semi/wholey organic? According to the Weyland Idustries website, created to support some rather vague idea of an arg. The company manufactured and utilized a device known as the BIO-REPLICATOR POD [next bit lifted directly from the website] This remarkable device was introduced in 2058 for use by Weyland planetary engineers. However, recent advancements have made bio-replicator pods available to off-world civilians for home use. Each pod has a database of over 40 million seed varieties and plant DNAs. With the push of a button, it can replicate the requested sample. Growth rates are currently at about 55%, not factoring unsuitable planetary conditions for a given species. At 1 cubic foot in size, an array of thousands of bio-replicator pods can be outfitted to any seeder for industrial use. For household use, it is recommended to store bio-replicator pods outside the home. what if our space jockey /engineers/curious goo like substance tampered/manipulated these to not only contain plant dna but animal dna and become almost semi concious creating appropriate organisms for a variety of appropriate tasks with the ability to self replicate? what if i wasnt awake at 2:30am and this little gem was left un-posted?
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Here's what I got out of the films before I saw Prometheus. I think a lot of people miss these points when they only watch the films one or two times. I haven't seen Alien 3 in y-e-a-r-s and Alien Res really made me question if I should ever see a new film in theaters again, also the eggs are explained in the second film, Aliens. Alien: Called Alien because in the entire film, there is only one alien that the audience really sees. That hole in the GIANT (had to point that out) alien Engineer pilot's chest was the first alien that came out; it was a queen and bled through the floor of that ship on LV-426 and laid a bunch of eggs on the floor below. Where that queen went, I have no idea. I can only guess that it moved out of the ship in search for more hosts for the eggs. In the novelization of the Alien film, I may be wrong but I remember something like there was a "vase"-like thing that nobody recognized sitting on the ground near that alien Engineer pilot with the hole in his chest. Cut to Prometheus real quick: When I saw David grab one of the vases in that vase library (or whatever) I immediately went: "Oh man, David is the one who, well, poisoned that giant engineer!" But I could be wrong on that last part and we wouldn't really find out until Prometheus/Paradise comes out in a few years. Also, in Prometheus, those GIANT alien engineers are seen in the entryway of the ship on LV-223 (I think that's the name of the Prometheus planet). I think they might be memorial sculptures or something because it wouldn't really make sense for them to be dead and upright. Unless I missed something. Or maybe they're in sleep chambers that I don't understand yet. Aliens: Called Aliens because now we see more than one alien in the film, and also because it's a sequel and it sounds really cool that way also. In this film, they describe that Weyland Corp decided to go back to LV-426 and colonize it as an excuse to get hands on more of these aliens the Nostromo reported on initially. This film is where we meet the Queen. That's kind of why I think the Queen is the only one who can lay eggs and she was out searching for prey/hosts in the first film to make us think about what could lay eggs like that, and also, it's called Alien, singular and all. ... ... Prometheus: They kind of show that the raw primordial soup-like stuff can sort of blend with any host and mix their DNA together to create some new life form. The first one I noticed was that the goo made its way through the vase onto the dirty floor and made contact with some meal worms. Then they combined, mutated, and turned into the ancient face huggers that attack the two scientists, one through the arm sleeve, one through spraying his helmet and combining DNA via him being physically exposed to the goo on the floor, or perhaps through the acid spray at this early stage. Which is why I think in the Autodoc/Medpod thingy where that lady gets an impromptu C-section, the reason it looks squid-like is because it mutated from being goo, to being worm/goo, to being worm/goo/human: no legs or arms, to being lengthy, to being a worm mixed with human arms and legs which gave it a weird head with four legs on the bottom. Keep in mind these goo mutation creatures seem to mutate/grow at a rate of around 3 months to 1 in human years, remember David tells the lady she's about 3 months pregnant. So then eventually, when the goo/DNA combinations mutate with something that has eggs, it will favorably mutate to be a quote/unquote survivor as much as possible and even mutate to just lay tons of eggs. Prometheus/Paradise: Should clear it all up for us if they want to end it there. There was talk of religious stuff like the Engineers wanted to destroy all humans and start over. Something like the Humans were going nuts and warring all over the place ruthlessly and whatnot (Roman Empire) and they sent an Engineer/Human aka Jesus Christ but the Humans killed Jesus Christ which freaked them out completely thus the destruction. So this goo mutation stuff is definitely a weapon they would have used to kill all humans and make something new, as David saw in Prometheus when the planet Earth was on the Engineer's GPS or whatever. But honestly I think releasing this stuff on mankind would backfire because, well, look what the human/goo/worm combo did to the Engineer at the end of the Prometheus film: sat on his face...

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