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crookedbill

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long time lurker, first time poster. sorry to make my first post a negative one. so the more i hear about prometheus and the more trailers/spots i see, the less enthusiastic i'm getting about his film. if you're a fan of "alien" or "aliens" i think you're going to be disappointed. here are my reasons: 1) it's a prequel, and like any prequel it's gonna be loaded with useless boring exposition. endless yapping and long-winded platitudes from the characters. just what we've seen already from the official trailers/spots has spoiled the movie and tries to "explain" too much! where's the mystery? there won't be any. 2) what made "alien" great? it was a very basic horror/monster film - relatable and likeable characters (blue collar, in a grubby blue collar setting), no-name actors, mystery and atmosphere, very little exposition, very basic plot, a couple great shocking scenes, and you barely ever see the (absolutely weird, for the time, and expertly designed) monster. aka "jaws in space." by contrast prometheus seems to have a bunch of cocky unlikeable characters (most of whom look like nameless monster fodder, though there are a number of "major" name stars vying for screen time and attention), ridiculous high-tech "future" environments, relatively little mystery, a LOT of exposition and over-explanation, cliche "high concept" plot, pseudo-science and shallow religious (likely anti-religious) themes, lots of "huge" eye-catching action sequences, and multiple monsters (humanoids, snakes and squids? lame) look like they get a lot of major screen time in brightly lit environments. 3) admit it, you're only onboard because you love "alien" (a horror movie) and/or "aliens" (a war movie). what was so cool about those films? the original giger monster/xenomorph! doesn't look like this movie will feature that at all. hope you're shocked by snakes and squids! this film won't be anything like either of the originals. 4) returning to classic beloved sci-fi franchises from the 70's and 80's has proven disastrous in the past decade. the star wars prequels? awful. the avp films? awful. the terminator 3 and salvation? awful. every single one of those films had me excited, but felt like a knife through the heart when i actually saw them. they could never live up to the originals, and neither will prometheus. mark my words, prometheus will get ruthlessly panned by fans and film critics.
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crookedbill
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Mostly, some context - films i've seen recently that i liked? drive - simple stylized revenge flick with a cool soundtrack and a couple good car-chase scenes. elite squad: the enemy within - gritty brazilian cop action-drama. money ball - not a huge brad pitt or baseball fan, but really enjoyed this movie. 50/50 - pretty touching and funny "bro-comedy." i'm sure i'm missing a few. i've really enjoyed a lot of indie films and documentaries, but the "geek" franchise that has really impressed me in recent years is nolan's batman/dark knight series (i was a huge bat-fan growing up). those are films i followed closely from pre-production to release, and was still blown away by the finished product at the theater. i'm fully expecting to love "dark knight rises." for the record my favorite films of all time are (more or less in order): aliens (yep, i like aliens more than alien), terminator 2, alien, blade runner, the dark knight, batman (the first burton one, sue me), terminator. throw the original star wars films in there for good measure. yep, i like my geek sci-fi.
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@artyoh I'd have to agree, even the worst of his movies are better then almost anything I've seen on tv, at the theatre or on the internet.
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artyoh, i love ridley scott btw. obviously loved alien, and blade runner, but gladiator, black hawk down, and most recently body of lies too.
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30 years from now you´ll be talking about prometheus the same way nowadays we talk about alien.....morron
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Some people liked "Aliens" more than they liked "Alien." No harm, no foul. They're wrong, of course, but like I said, no biggie. ;p
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while i will agree that praising it before its even out is a mistake and we will be let down a little tinny bit, saying it will be really bad beforehand is just as bad if not worse. terminator 3, was kind of bad i will admit, but salvation was not that bad, idk why people hate it so much, not as good as 1 and 2 sure but still. avp was just a popcorn flick, avpr was.. well... yeah that was bad lol and star wars was only bad because it was made by George Lucas, that stupid bastard. also, real sets are not that hard to find these days lol, maybe in big sci fi movies it is a little rare but come on now, its not overused THAT much. and yeah, Prometheus looks great! you can kind of tell when something will be good.
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th3rapy, what's a "morron"?
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@crookedbill That sound you hear is the noise of irony being totally lost on somebody :) Or perhaps we should say "Ironny?" :P Sorry, couldn't resist.
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lool...
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I think that a lot of stuff will not get explained.... Just have hints that guide us along a path to make better assumptions. Thats Lindelof for you though.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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There is no way Ridley Scott is going to top the Xenomorph without Giger doing creature design. Alien is just 2001 with a Giger designed Alien on board. Prometheus will be Gladiator in space. It will be good, and watcheable, but nowhere near being the next "Alien" as people here believe it will be.
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yo. sounds really frustrating. So i will not go in the cinema. Ouups.... i have already been 3 times! I love it, and i hate it in the same time.
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hate to say it, but everything i predicted about Prometheus not only turned out to be true, but even worse than i expected. 1) boring exposition and long-winded platitudes? check. credit for not "explaining too much" but frankly you know what's worse? a nonsense story that doesn't explain anything! 2) unlikeable characters? check. "high concept" plot and pseudo-science? check. lack of mystery, with all action in brightly lit environments? check. 3) yep, no actually giger monsters. just exactly as i thought, one lame humanoid, one lame snake, and one lame squid. lame. lame. lame. oh wait, and one lame pseudo-xeno muppet that gets 5 seconds of screen time a the end. gimme a break. 4) yep, this movie was just as bad as terminator salvation, avp, and the star wars prequels. actually i was probably less disappointed by terminator salvation and avp, considering those movies were developed and directed by absolute morons and didn't bother masquerading as "deep" high-concept films. they were good for a laugh. this was just awful. my respect for scott is through the floor right now. i hope he doesn't touch blade runner anymore.

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