im sure im right- weyland did steal the ship-get in!! thanks jono1975

Diesektor

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as written in this post that ive just read by jono1975-my post and link follows after In the French promo posted today the Merc that seems to fire on the engineer seems to hold water with the story posted from the person who said they went to the advanced screening. They talk about how the Merc opens fire on Weyland who is the one that gets into the chair and takes off in the derelict. Seems to link very well with the clip http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/5535 Ive been mulling over this for a few days now and I Dont know if this happens but i thought it was an interesting possible plot twist- I had read somewhere Weyland is on Prometheus- it was supposed leaked spoiler but it might have been bullshit but from reading that and adding one or two bits together i came up with the following theory. David always said that he can perform tasks his counterparts may find distressing or unethical and by that i can deduce that could be anything from betrayal to sabotage whilst being able to secretly cover his tracks or not even show any sign of emotion towards his misdeeds. I "think" what may happen is that David and Weyland steal the space jockeys ship with hopes of returning it to earth with its cargo.hence prometheus stealing fire from the gods which in itself at the time was a formidable weapon.. If you listen to shaw in one of the trailer scenes she says" If we dont stop "them" there wont be a home to go back to" (" them" as in more than one) apparently there is only 1 space jockey/engineer survivor that they wake up- so who is them? this is where my mind got ticking- also she says where are "They" leaving to.....who are they? that applies to more than one person.. i am theorizing that there will be more than one David android- Ridley said there may be more than one android but everyone has been leaning towards Vickers being the other android..hmmn i dont think that's the case. going back to my point about the ship being stolen by Weyland and David- i think the engineer has every right to be pissed off and going on a fooking rampage which is why hes on the Prometheus ship- cos he wants his back- If you think about it they have A) broke into the engineers house trashed the place C) woke him up D) robbed the poor bastard E) nicked his motor F) and to boot they've buggered around with his experiments and pets who've gone on a rampage... i seriously hope the engineer give them all a good slap- this just down right breaking and entering and burglary- The crew of Prometheus may well have been riding around in the mystery machine with Scooby Doo-god damn meddling kids. Thoughts and feedback?

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May 23, 2012

thanks again guys and gals-badly looking forward to this film- the only tech imo weyland would need is the ship and whatever cargo its carrying-maybey its full of bio weapons? xeno springs to mind? good lord i could go off on tangent about this- i even heard david helps him and the engineers maybe after an engineer dies they become pure energy? in that interview that guy said he did play quite a young engineer and there would more of them. ill post more when i get a good theory straight in my head.. ive got a good one coming..

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May 23, 2012

I couldn't disagree more with this theory, David and Weyland stealing the ship seems really far-fetched and anticlimactic. For one thing, there would be no good reason to steal the ship. If Weyland wanted it (and I don't think he is there because he sends VIckers as his representative) he could send a fleet of ships filled with mercs and scientists to take the thing apart and gather samples. Most likely, he has no idea that there is a ship and is back on earth none-the-wiser. Ridley said in an interview that the crew finds an advanced civilization with very uncivilized behavior. I still believe that the Jockey sends the ship to wipe out earth once it learns that we have become an intelligent civilization capable of creating our own life (as evidenced by David). Hence why Shaw says, "if we don't stop it there won't be any home to go back to." And the merc is probably firing the gun into the chest of an Engineer (the one with a whole in his chest we see later wrestling with the tentacle monster).

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May 23, 2012

A) broke into the engineers house trashed the place C) woke him up D) robbed the poor bastard E) nicked his motor Isn´t this a Clint Eastwood movie? ; )

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May 24, 2012

I don't think Weyland gets what he wants. Maybe the thought of piloting the ship crosses the mind at the time, but I think he transforms into something in the end while the real engineer uses him and the other monsters to fight off the crew. What if we've had it all backwards and the smaller looking engineer (compared to the other) that we've seen getting in the suit is the "last engineer". The even taller one is a mid transformation Weyland who has only been shown to misdirect us. He grows out of control. He trusts the smaller engineer even after all the stuff with the cobra-huggers, mutants reanimated puppet beings, and cuddles. Even while transforming himself and noticing his size is changing too much because he thinks becoming a god will cure him/make him immortal. Really the engineer is recreating the Elder God race within Weyland. Not the Engineer race. Holloway becomes something like that. Maybe they do all want to go to Earth at some point together under the smaller ones orders. Remember Shaw says if we don't stop "them" in one of the trailers. Because Weyland's cancer is a very rare form; in an ironic twist after all his work even the godly tech doesn't cure it and Weyland's plan backfires. The last engineer was actually trying to recreate an Elder Engineer through him/human genetics which further complicated matters. It fucks with the transformation and turns him into the biggest, self-replicating, reanimated mass of cells in the movie. He cannot die even when reduced to pieces, but he is not in control anymore and it's the smaller real engineer who thinks he still has control of the Weyland monster, quarantines him on the Juggernaut, and dons the suit because he's suffering from an infection that David was able to give him before Engineer Weyland killed him for trying to stop the real Engineer.

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May 24, 2012

Sorry, the theory lacks credibility to me. I mean, why would Weyland take the juggernaut to end all life on earth? There has always been the risk of an alien getting to earth and destroying all life. There are two Engineers on the planet. We see on mauled by cuddles. I think the elder Engineer survives to the end and tries to take the juggernaut on a bombing mission to Earth.

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May 24, 2012

I'm pretty sure Weyland goes through a horrible transformation that ends up threatening the crew and even the last engineer. The last engineer makes it through to the end, because he's a survivor and very desperate and hides behind the hammerpede, mutants, reanimated mutants, and to a lesser extent cuddles (allowing him to eat the Holloway Engineer who was changed and sent over after disappearing on the second trip). The last Engineer finds a way to quarantine it before setting off for Earth with it and the other bioweapons. He does try to turn Weyland into an Elder engineer, and Holloway into an Engineer, but Weyland's transformation doesn't go so well for him. I don't know if Weyland will fit in that suit after what happens to him. He gains his immortality but loses himself completely. The remaining crew has to briefly deal with him becoming a massive crab-like blob creature who's finally stopped after reanimating, very quickly self-replicating and reassembling like a cancerous mass of mutating dead flesh, even after it's burned and dismembered. The tech he seeks doesn't cure him and extend his life like it should, it makes the transformation take on the properties of his cancer, as well as the properties of the Elder gods the last Engineer was trying to recreate. A Lovecratftian species that also use biomechanical suits that the Engineers used to worship/fear who are the true creators of us, the engineers, and the Xenomorphs/bioweapons. This, and being infected by David with a certain strain of bioweapon, makes the Engineer change his plans.

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May 24, 2012

this isnt new though, is it? this theory has been raised and discussed a few times, ever since the debate of "who is in the chair" and "why would the ship be headed to earth" fused together. i have to disagree about who the merc is shooting at, unless weyland gets back out of the chair. hes shooting at something thats coming directly towards him and ford.

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May 25, 2012

I don't think Weyland is after the alien ship, think what does derelict got which Prometheus does not have???????????? I think he is after something more than that......................!!!