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Warning Beacon

donholbrookjr

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I'm just going to throw a few thoughts out there. This is all conjecture and speculation as I have not seen the movie and will not know the answers till June 8th like the rest of you. So here goes... There seems to be a big argument as to what planet this all takes place on. LV223 or LV426? If it's LV223 then where is the connection to ALIEN given that Nostromo set down on LV426. You can clearly see imagery on the bridge of Prometheus that says LV223. But does that actually mean they landed there? Or was that simply a scan of the system they were entering? And how about those Engineers? I'm thinking we are seeing the last of them! How long ago did they seed Earth? And they never came back to see what came of it? They don't strike me as being very stealthy. Is it possible that they created something that got the best of them? A distant cousin of the Xeno? We know Prometheus sets a collision course with the Juggernaut to keep it from taking off. The remaining crew are left stranded. Now think about this, the tagline says THE SEARCH FOR OUR BEGINNING MAY LEAD TO OUR END. That implies that the juggernaut was most likely leaving for Earth and the Prometheus crew considered it a big enough threat to destroy their own ship and strand themselves on an alien world. How many years pass between Prometheus and Alien? The engineers are obviously far more advanced then humans so I'm sure they have cellphones. How come another juggernaut was not dispatched to Earth to finish the job. Why? Because with the crashing of the juggernaut they became extinct! And the icing on the cake... the signal that Nostromo intercepted was a WARNING not a distress beacon. Let's just say for arguments sake that the derelict in Alien is NOT the same ship from Prometheus. Why would it be sending a warning in a language that Humans could understand? It would either be sending a distress to it's own people that we surely would never be able to decipher (this ain't Star Trek and we don't possess universal translators!) or it would be sending an invitation to us so that we would stumble upon it's cargo. So this leads me to believe that the Juggernaut in Prometheus is indeed crashing on LV426, it IS the derelict we see in Alien and the surviving crew members of Prometheus are responsible for the warning beacon in Alien. Surely the company would have a contingency plan if the Prometheus did not report back. Seems to me the crew would do everything possible to warn others, including the company, away. They would likely choose to sacrifice themselves instead of risking a rescue mission and possibly taking any infections back to Earth. Thoughts? These are just some ideas,theories,etc. There's no need to get hateful if you disagree. It's just for discussion.
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Hi, Just some toughts here... Been reading alot of interviews over the last few months. I've had the impression that,although the "alien prequel" idea was abandoned long ago,RS still wanted to explain the ALIEN SJ/Derelict on lv-426,but Lindelof talked him out of it. In fact a week or two ago,Lindelof had an interview in wich he stated that "there will be no derelict full of eggs". I wonder daily just what the connection to Alien will be (the mysterious final 8 minute segment).Well,two more weeks we'll know anyway. Just sharing my thoughts,wich means I think the WARNING BEACON will not be explained.
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@donholbrookjr Umm, i think Grindolf made the point that they have stated its not the derelicts planet in Alien. They've made this point repeatedly. And it has already been discussed here several times, over and over. As has the distress beacon. i even started a thread about it myself so i know it exists, i was wondering if it was actually fabricated by the company to give a reason to send the Nostromo off course to deliberatey encounter the eggs etc. There are life pods and a lifeboat, apparently that can keep peole surviving for 50 years. And there is something similar to a universal translator, its on the weyland industries page. You think the Engineers are extinct after the juggernaught crash? why? you don't have a single thing to support this do you? Am not being hateful, i'm just surprised anyone who has found this forum and read a few threads would think some of these things.
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. i know while this one has been discussed, it keeps coming up because there is something that does not add up. regardless of planet, there are two signals that go out from either one or two planets next door, one being a warning and the other being something else...... I really do still believe that they are the same somehow. too much going on there with a lot of Space around for it to be just a coincidence. last time i will say this on one of these threads but it goes back to David again for me, we do not know what condition he will be in by the end of this movie, it might even be picking his human creators or the engineers, (but if they rip off his head, he might think about rejoining the human cause!) and i am not sure yet about the life pods and lifeboats as to know operates them where they go and such, but there have been a couple of pictures of David in an engineer’s seat, when i think of a movie, or even on LOST, you knew that if there was not someone in your party that could fly a plane, ship, etc.. you were S&*)ed/ so why couldn't David program a warning, from the SJ ship that came out sounding Alien or digital, with screaming in the background? it is obviously Shaw speaking the warning, but it might get muddled up for other travelers when they hear it. this of course all depends on who the final survivors on the "island are and who get's voted off" - - i am guessing that Shaw, Vicker's, and David will be around for another go if we see green lights flashing a sequel sign. I am super excited about opening night, and even if there is just a second of connection in this movie or not it will be awesome, but i still think that somehow that message is one of the connecting points and donholbrookjr, i think you are right about survivors not wanting anyone company or not coming near this place, because of the threat of infection and these creatures spreading to earth. i don't even think with Vickers’s ethics that she herself would want to go back to earth after being next to and interacting with infected travelers, i don't know if she would want to risk anyone without intense scanning to return from the survivor’s crew. And for good reason! **final thought on this one also, is that if one of the Weyland family went missing, whether Vickers’ is weyland's daughter or granddaughter (?) or if he himself is one of the survivors, the minute the company heard any sort of beacon, or warning signal come from that area, they would want to retrieve it to find out what happened to them? this could be why the redirected the Nostromo. only hole is that you would think the company would have had the location all that time, unless Weyland and Vickers’ kept it secret even from the company because it was too big to put out into the public or overall company and that point
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It's fair to assume, based on the trailers, that Shaw gets rescued from some cataclysm, maybe it's after the storm that she wakes up violently and surrounded by dudes in hazmat suits, but I doubt it. She either lets herself die in the temple, where there appears to be a field or special environment that stops all decay (mentioned in interviews) and they recover her body and reactivate her with the synapse re-establisher. She could also put herself into a shuttle like ripley did and they are examining her before she fully wakes but, then she does, in fact, wake up. Let's go with the shuttle theory. On the way to get her they are doing a very broad very thorough sensor sweep and they pick up the signal from LV-426 which has become faint over the last thousand years or so. It follows that the environment inside the structures on LV-426 is also inside the juggernaut which explains the lack of decay of the Jockey and the eggs.

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donholbrookjr
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@Windood I DID say in my post that these were just thoughts, speculation and conjecture. I think it's plausible that the Engineers are almost extinct/extinct by the end of the film for a couple of reasons. For whatever reason the Engineer was trying to take off in the Juggernaut presumably towards Earth. We have to assume to do some damage since the Prometheus crew sacrifice their ship to stop it. Why did the Engineer not call for help? No other Engineers anywhere on the planet? No other Juggernauts? Ok, maybe they're on another planet. He wouldn't have alerted them to the situation? What about the timeframe between Prometheus and Alien. Would the engineers not have simply dispatched another juggernaut to Earth? All races eventually become extinct. Given the Engineers dabbling in genetics is it not possible that they created something that got the best of them. Dare I say a distant cousin to our beloved xenomorph? [b]Disclaimer[/b] (I feel like I need to include this with every post): I have not seen this film, neither have you. I do not have all the answers, neither have you. Everything I say is just an [b]opinion[/b], [b]theory[/b], [b]conjecture[/b] and/or [b]speculation[/b], the same as you. It's ok to disagree with my opinions, theories, conjectures and/or speculations as I often disagree with yours. [b]I am not here to have a fanatical debate[/b]. This is a discussion board, I am discussing. [b]This is just for fun[/b]. Just sayin'. [b]Disclaimer to the disclaimer[/b]: This disclaimer is not targeted at any one individual. Thank you for your time.
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Hi there.. Considering that the Nostromo possibly passed LV426 before returning home makes me wonder.. If Mother picked up the strange transmission why not re-route to Zeta2 reticuli on it's way out? Knowing now that Weyland Corp now about a possible lifeform out there and (who knows) a crew back in the past went to the Zeta2 reticuli with perhaps a lot of information generated by.. say... Vickers?? -- Well, then I'm certain the company allready knows something beforehand. A possible reason for why it happens so many years later.. Could!! Could!! This be based on a Weyland/Yutani conflict.. Where an ancestor to Weyland wants to return to it's initial strategy - being the gods.. This is speculation - but, looking at the Dallas/Ripley conversation in the original release.. Well, then the "goddamn" company is to blame :)
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Here's a thought for you chaps. We know David watches a hologram. It shows a clip of an engineer running closely followed by a gang of engineers. Why is he running away? Does he get away? Does he fly away in a ship with a deadly cargo and crash land on LV 426? Why would he do that? Is he trying to stop something or is trying to steal something but it backfires on him. I'm just trying to say that maybe the ship in alien could have ended up there 1000's of years before this film is set. The conection with Alien may not be how that ship gets there but more of how the xeno's are made. They maybe a defense mechanism that is triggered when the engineers or their technology is in jeopardy.
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If there is confusion about which planet this takes place on, there shouldn't be. It is made very clear that it is lv-223 by the guy(s) that made the movie. It is also made clear this is not the prequel to alien. I believe the sequel(s) to prometheus will be the prequel to alien. All the efforts to twist RS words around and come up with your own plots is nice for a creative writing class but hold no weight in reality. I think a lot of people will be saddened when they see how much they over thought this film. There will be a connection to alien as there already is with the engineers. It will be more subtle then people think, but there will be something nice at the end!
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Becuase maybe the Alien movie really takes place before the Prometheus movie.

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