NGR01 spoliers

Melkor
MemberOvomorphMay 29, 20122246 Views31 RepliesAs an FYI I have read these spoilers intently and the guy is defo legit. We even had some PM correspondence. I now know most of what occurs. And the real spoiler is there are hardly any spoilers! We already know most of it.
I want to love this movie but it is not gonna be the be-all-and-end-all that most of us want it to be. Get used to it now.
May 29, 2012
I think it just all points to the desire of Ridley Scott and 20th Century Fox to make some kind of series of movies. That's the trouble with a series, the ending isn'y going to answer anything, just point you towards where they want to go with movie 2. So likely best just to watch the movie thinking this is the start of something...
May 29, 2012
I think we've all fell victim to our own creation.
We've speculated it to the point that NO film could match our expectations- at least not in a single movie. 2 hours just isn't enough for all of our hopes.
I'm sure I will still enjoy the movie. The imagery alone should be unlike anything we've ever seen before. The basic "survival" theme of the story is certainly not new, but nothing else really is either. If Ridley has a few good parts in the movie that are shocking and thought-provoking, that's enough for me. It is after all, just $15 for an IMAX ticket. Where else are you gonna get so much for so little?
May 29, 2012
Darkeequation
The Predators are being worshiped by humans. No where does it say they created us. They destroyed us not because they wanted to, but because of the alien infestation got out of hand.
O.K. the engineer in this film is of the same race of beings who created us. So, yes, he still is part of the same beings who are our creator(s).
May 29, 2012
I still think this will be the best Sci-Fi in years, although i really did love the new star trek but those are comparing apples and oranges.
But I will also be a bit disappointed if there is not the smallest of connections at the end, i really am one of those that want a little more resolution to the SJ on the Derelict.
I have been another that has built this movie up to the LOTR of this whole series. just have to get to a place to ease back a bit before next Friday.
on the other hand, money equals sequel, i know all of us on the boards will be going, but i truly hope that it hits big, because while it needed to be "R' Rated, i am a little worried that since it is NOT PG-13 that it might not raise enough money to continue on. it seems like nothing is certain for an R rated film these days. depending on budget. but we will be seeing another kick-ass, another Sin city, so R's don't always get the shaft.
I guess that is why i really wanted them to stuff as much as possible into this one. but we will see,
Yet there is still a great sense of reality laid at our feet in this new Ripley offering,
I mean Star Trek is fun for the lighter side of what space could be like, same even in Star Wars (a Jedi vs. a full , but Ripley hits the reality button for me, I mean, if we think that we are going to meet a bunch of awesome beautiful blue aliens, and form an alliance, not sure about that, (would be awesome though)
I have always seen more of the mining for resources, the colonization of a planet, but with that there are airborne sicknesses that humans have never been exposed to, you think we have poisonous and deadly animals on our planet, I am sure if we explored deeper enough we would find things similar to the cobraxeno, (that actually seems hugely more realistic then the other creatures of this series.
I think for me Ripley’s tale of the universe, shows the amazement of exploration but the extreme caution that needs to take place, just because you create a shuttle to get you to another place does not make you immune to death.
So just in these thoughts alone, Ripley hits the deep levels.
Regardless,
if it makes any sense, my heart is warmed by getting to enter the darker regions of space again. this is a gift for us all that we have another chapter and another tour of Ripley's universe.
May 29, 2012
Also, as was mentioned before, AVP took many concepts from the original Alien script so even if you are implying Prometheus is repeating what AVP did, remember AVP is just taking ideas from the original Alien script and recycling them.
May 29, 2012
@ SaintsSinphony In AVP the Predators give mankind technology and are worshiped as gods and then cause an infestation that gets out of hand and also hunt humans. The Engineers in the film are not profound creatures and there is no exposition about their motives. They simply provide the genetic material to make us, in this respect they are as much our Gods as other people are. Unless they engineered us with a plan, they are about as Godly as a teenage father who has a kid and then wants his girlfriend to get rid of it because he is afraid it will cause him trouble.
May 29, 2012
I respect NRG01 for answering them.
He's still a dick who went in hating. That's pretty much proven by his actions over there. If you follow that board closely you'd see.
Or at least a good portion of that forum found him to be a dick.
May 29, 2012
Explanation is overrated. Seriously, the movie would be better if he sat there and explained all his motivation like in a James Bond film?
Nothing need to be explained. Plus, only David can speak his language and he obviously says something to piss him off as the retaliation to it is beheading. Maybe David and what he says is why they are heading for earth.
Do they subtitle him speaking?
May 29, 2012
well there are reasons they give us, David 8 talks with them and reads their writings and explains their motives
creating a child is easy, go create a brand new complex organism that would be god like
May 29, 2012
explains a few of their motives. Or, because he is trying madly to break away from Weyland, explains his motives and sets everything in motion. Which is why i ask about subtitling.
May 29, 2012
I decided to go for it and I read all of NGR01's posts within that thread (40 pages... my god)
I'm not upset by anything which I read, nor do I regret reading it. For the past two months I have been on this site reading and writing about all of these "theories" and at some point I truly believed we covered EVERY base any good writer could come up with. The fact is we all helped figure out the plot, good for us, now lets go watch it on screen :P
I have some gripes about the apparent ending (I only say apparent because I'm basing this off of one guy's review).
# 1 - So if Shaw plans on going to the Engineer's planet, WTF does she hope to get accomplished? Is she gonna yell at them, "bad engineers! don't hurt us humans!" What is she going to do when she gets there? As they say in Aliens: "what are we supposed to use? harsh language?"
# 2 - The whole birth scene at the end of the film sounds cheap. I never really like movies that end with such an overt cliffhanger that is pretty dependent on a sequel. This one sounds very AVPish and that's kinda annoying... I prefer films which create enough ambiguous space at the end that SOMEONE could write a script which could expand on it, LIKE Alien. James Cameron took it in a different direction than RS would have BUT he still made it work, and very well.
Outside of those things the storyline seems legit and moves along logically with some nice twists and turns along the way. The ending sequence is also very logical, and I can't complain about it conceptually. It's just a little eh, when it comes to endings especially since it's a TBC type one.
Amazing Cinematography
Great Cast/Characters + Good Acting
Sci-Fi Creatures + Technology
World Class Directing
Alien References Galore
All of those elements will lead to a GOOD movie. Who knows, it could be GREAT? I think it could be just that!