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Primitive Creators

Drakeequation

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A theme that I noticed in Prometheus is the one of the Creator being more Primitive than the creation. In many reviews people cite the silent aggression of the Engineer as evidence of lazy writing. I also held this belief until the recent clip between David and Holloway was released. In the clip, David asks Holloway why he was created and Holloway responds, "we made you because we could." What is interesting in this exchange is that David seems to be the more intelligent and calm life-form. From what I gather about the film, the Engineers are more aggressive and simple minded than the human crew of the Prometheus, and the crew of the Prometheus is more aggressive and simple minded than David. This brings to light the idea that just because a species has the technology to create something does not mean that the individual members of that species are necessarily more civil or intelligent than the creation itself. I think this may be a response to all the films where aliens are depicted as noble, slender beings who are benevolent and kind or even almost angelic (Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Contact ,The Abyss etc...). This film could also be a commentary on the religions of the world that assume that a Creator God would always have our best intentions in mind and be loving and kind (The Old Testament God makes the Engineers look like kittens in some parts). Either way, it seems to be a very interesting concept. What do you guys think? Do you think this was intentional or am I making it out to be more than it is?
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Big things have small beginnings.
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Well ... the problem of that thinking is that David is not a biological creation ..just a machine (as Shaw remind him at the end ) . Also David is much more ruthless that Halloway ..halloway can be harsh in an answer ( but quite right on the point ) while David do a terrible thing to him ....
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@ Frantz well I did not say that the creation had to be biological. If you have seen the film, would you say that David is more intelligent than his human counterparts? And are the humans more intelligent than the Engineer in they way they act? I am really curious to know from someone who has seen the film.
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@ Drakeequation, your right, Holloway's reply reflects egoism and exaggerated ''creator''importance. BTW agreed with your AVP comparative but closed my laptop when the inquisition began . Take care.
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@ Sundar thank you for the kind words. I am glad at least some people on the boards can appreciate an opinion that goes against the grain.
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David is clearly superior in some aspects. But he lacks a soul. That's what reviewers meant when they said this movie treated ideas close to Blade Runner, where replicants lacked memories, and lived a short life. I think RS wanted to create an evil extraterrestrial race where we actually see what they look like and concentrate on them as individuals, not as an army attacking earth like in all catastrophic movies. And that's a nice interpretation. As someone here said : he just woke up, an old man and an android bother him with a stupid question, and they are violent between them, and he knows he's part of a race that's master of the universe, so why should he bother? (you could ask why he pursues Shaw then)
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I am still holding out hope that the sequel(s) will flesh out the Engineer race and their motivations. So far, the reviews for Prometheus make it sound like just an appetizer, something to whet our appetites for more.
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Intelligent is one of the defensive mechanism from weak organism. Space Jockey is god or demigod level, just like you kill one of the character in computer game.

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