Alien tie in

I posted this yesterday on a thread about the ending...but this exPlains what I took from the film I think I may have an explanation as to the link to alien/the crash site on Lv-426! Here goes.... ...right severed head David tells shaw that the crashed ship they were originally exploring isn't the only alien ship on the planet...he never states there is only one more, so I believe there are a number of these ships, all with SJ crew laying in stasis. The 'alien' (which I have dubbed the 'Hollywood alien' dude to its smooth skin and fresh set of pearly whites) born from the SJ at the end of the film, goes on to grow into a queen, laying eggs which hatch some nice friendly face huggers! These face huggers impregnate a SJ on one of the other ships, awakening it from stasis...the SJ then, blissfully unaware of its new offspring growing within, plots a course to earth to complete its mission...ship flies off from Lv-233 chest heater makes an appearance, causing the ship to lose control/cash on Lv-426 leading us nicely into the distress call heard in the original alien.... Any contenders to this theory? Hope you all followed what I was trying to say at least. Here's to hoping some sort of franchise is upon us to restore our beloved Alien inverse

They said it wasn't an Alien Prequel for marketing reasons! People would be more interested in a stand alone story then another xenomorph/alien movie... at least that's what Lindelof and Scott think... They announced that it is a full blooded Alien prequel at the release :P AND WE ALL SAW THAT COMING!

The parts of the movie that link to Alien are the parts that dont work = Spahits probably The parts that try to create a stand alone movie works well = Lindelof probably

i didn't think of it as a prequel when i saw it. but now i rething about it. it actually could be. how big is the chestburster in Alien, and what happens early after? now think the same at the last scene in Prometheus. Maybe it is a prequel after all;.

@ Frantz, do you agree with me, that the last chestbuster is not a protoxeno. but a rather big chestburster?

Well Ridley does answer us this: The Alien creature is without a doubt originating from the engineer.. It's right in your face.. It's so simple to understand it actually doesn't need any kind of explanation.

Haven't seen it yet, and judging from what I'm hearing, that may be a blessing. So perhaps someone can clarify some things for me: Is the final Engineer sitting in the "chair" when he's chestbursted? If so... we have: A. An Engineer (SJ) in the chair with a hole in his chest (on the wrong planet). B. A crashed boneship, derelict, Juggernaut, whatever they're calling it, (on the wrong planet). C. An electronic warning left by Shaw to ward other ships away (on the wrong planet). 3. Is anyone else missing the elephant in the room (or elephant-looking alien)? 4. It is LV-426. 5. The company upgrades the planetary codes later. Am I way off? Is this wishful thinking? Why would Ridley have 3 of the major plot devices from the original Alien happen in the wrong place?

Shinobi really the last creature is the worst part of the movie ... until it open the mouth you wonder who is that guy :p

@db... Wait and see my friend ;)

Whether the proto alien is analogous to a chestburster or adult is impossible to know, because it assumes too much. If the mural is supposed to represent a queen, it's far different from a human-born xenomorph queen. Maybe that means it's a queen form of a proto alien? That would mean the proto alien is, essentially, an alien. Whether it is the Jockey Alien or something else is still open. My own personal theory is that xenomorphs, as we know them, are the result of a bodyhugger impregnating a human. According to that, it would mean the monster at the end of prometheus isn't really an alien at all, it's a jockey-proto-alien-burster-thing. Whatever the case is, I bet it's not alien, per se, but some sort of bizarre side branch that *maybe* killed those Jockeys, and is their worst nightmare type of situation. Sort of like how Predators HATE Predaliens, but different. But, it's not like I know something you guys don't, I haven't even seen it yet. Are we making fun of Lost on this thread? That sounds fun.

I know Frantz, for me, i didn't need that scene. i even wonder how the bodyhugger got off of him. @ db, mostly no no and no

ripley, no idea, i never bothered watching lost :p

Actually liked the xeno alien that comes out of the Engineer... There are some gigerish attributes to it and it also differs from the original xeno in a way that makes it look more human in a way... Really creapy if you ask me.

@ db Is the final Engineer sitting in the "chair" when he's chestbursted? - No, it's not the same engineer If so... we have: A. An Engineer (SJ) in the chair with a hole in his chest (on the wrong planet). - No, it's a different engineer and it's a different ship (there are NO eggs on board the ship and the ship isn't as organic as the one in Alien) B. A crashed boneship, derelict, Juggernaut, whatever they're calling it, (on the wrong planet). - Yes it crashed but it's on LV-223 (not the same ship) C. An electronic warning left by Shaw to ward other ships away (on the wrong planet). - Nope, no warning and no, no and no [b]For everyone who wants to tie this in with Alien 'IT HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN ALIEN, SO YOU WON'T FIND OUT HOW THE ENGINEER DERELICT CRASHED AND WHY THERE ARE EGGS ON BOARD ETC.'[/b] What you DO find out is what the engineers are and how a xeno is created! And I've already said this and this is proven (IT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPERS IN MY COUNTRY) Prometheus IS a prequel to Alien! They said it wasn't a prequel because of a marketing campaign to get a bigger audience! And Ridley was planning to make two prequels that's why the ending of prometheus is an open ending and that's why we don't get to know how the derelict crahed on LV-426! They might explain that in the next installment of this movie!

Guys, this is NOT a prequel!!! Is star wars a prequel to return of the jedi? Thing will happen in between the 2 movies that they may or may not show us. RS specifically said it's not a prequel because that would suggest you know the ending. You knew at some point in sw rots that anakin was gonna become vader and put on the suit...that's a sequel. Why is it so hard to comprehend he set this back far enough to allow for many different paths and ideas along the road to alien. That's assuming he even goes that far. To me this movie is more about the engineer to human to android to engineer relationship. The product vs the maker vs the makers maker. Also, remember a xeno takes its attributes from its host. No 2 xeno from 2 different species will look or act the same.

You might say that Prometheus = the prequel to the prequel to Alien! Now everybody happy?

Hey, LouisPasmans, you couldn't be more wrong and have fabricated your statement poorly. I can't make a link now, will edit it in later, but RS has an interview specifically saying it's not a sequel. Marketing, really? Bottom line my friend is that if it was a prequel, the last scene you would see would be on lv-426 and see the alien burst from the chest of our space jockey friend. Or, at least something along those lines. This story can now be taken anywhere and at anytime to RS' liking. The sequel(s) to Prometheus will be the prequel to alien. Calling this a prequel is like calling x-men first class the prequel to Xmen the last stand. Think.

@LouisPasmans: Thanks for answering. I'll assume you've seen the movie. (Lucky bastard!) I'd heard from another member (who'd claimed to have seen the movie), that a warning was left by Shaw. So that's a mistake? No warning. Got it. As for the original derelict from the '79 Alien. I'm pretty sure the eggs were not on board... they were layed/created by something in a cavern under the derelict. The same something that probably created that hole they lowered Kane through. If you need confirmation of this you can find it in a number of earlier threads (or just watch the original movie again). The cavern with the eggs is enormous and twists and turns in the background in ways the derelict couldn't have.

@Sandman No you understand the term prequel wrong or maybe in your case to literally A prequel is a literary, dramatic, or filmic work whose story precedes that of a previous work,[1][2] by focusing on events that occur before the original narrative.[3] If Y is a prequel to X, then Y's storyline precedes X's, yet Y is released at a later date than X. Therefore, a prequel is a work that forms part of a back-story to the preceding work. Like sequels, prequels may or may not concern the same plot as the work from which they are derived. Often, they explain the background which led to the events in the original, but sometimes the connections are not as explicit. Sometimes, prequels play on the fact that the audience knows what will happen next, using deliberate references to create dramatic irony. The term is a 20th-century neologism, and a portmanteau from pre- (from Latin prae, "before") and -quel as in sequel (a supplementing work, especially one with a setting later than its predecessor's, from the Latin sequela, that which follows).[1][2] Thank you wikipedia! Meaning the ending of prometheus isn't the explicit ending you would expect it to be! For instance the crashed ship on LV-426 For instance... Star Wars Episode 1 is a prequel to Star Wars Episode II because it explains the things that happen before Episode II, but it's also a prequel to Episode IV because we know what will happen. That's why Episode I is a prequel to IV V and VI because it triggers the dramatic irony that we know what is going to happen! Damn what a stupid discussion! But I see your point Sandman... @dp yeah I saw it and I enjoyed it! I personally thought it was a great film with a few flaws (Like every movie does) but if you're hoping for a lot of explanations on how the things happen on LV-426 then you might be a bit disappointed in the end. And no I never saw that shaw sent out a warning! Prometheus destroys itself to stop the engineers ship so it's not even possible for her to send a warning

@sandman You seem to be assuming that the proto alien (the more I think about it, the less this name makes sense) is analogous to a Jockey Alien. That is if a facehugger, not a bodyhugger, impregnates a space jockey. The thing that came out of the derelict pilot's chest. It COULD be that, for sure, but we don't know if the proto alien is 1:1 with a jockey alien. I have my own ideas, but we just don't know. Also, I think there is some confusion of what the word "prequel" means. It refers to a story that takes place before an earlier story. There is no such criteria as "it has to end where the previous story started," it just has to be before. So, yes, Prometheus is an alien prequel. So is avp and avp:r. And, you know what? So is Predator. You're being really strict about your applying that word when the word itself if nowhere near that conservative. Whether or not it technically is part of the "alien series" is another issue entirely dependent on what exactly that monster at the end really is. It's like Rodan, it's not a sequel to Godzilla Raids Again, but it absolutely occurs after GRA and before G3HM. Same universe, different monster. It's really not that confusing.