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dtrisml

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Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean the author "did it wrong".
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Drakeequation
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And just because you haven't seen a film yet doesn't mean it's good. We are at what I think people would call an "impasse" at this point in time when it comes to being able to agree on whether the negativity or praise is merited.
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Act jet uctolchaxactick hupp semoeno peos jet riko semothick peos jet vaxako ug axanupp smaxaltol
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dtrisml
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I mean, if it were, say, The Exorcist that was being released you'd be having people ranting and whining about "Oh her head turns around backwards?? Give me a break! Who thought this cr*p up?? I want my money back!! Worst movie ever!! Let's lynch Friedkin!! He didn't give us exactly what we wanted (even though we don't seem to know what we really want...)"
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dtrisml
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I have seen it. Twice now. And I loved it. And that is quite enough for me.
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There is also a difference between complexity and a lack of necessary information. For instance solve for X in this equation: X+???=172. You can't do it? Gosh how simple you must be not to understand a simple problem.
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For instance, the mystery as to how a biologist and geologist would get lost in a structure while in possession of a 3D map of the entire area or why a biologist would want to hug a space cobra are not exactly of the high-brow, intellectual variety.
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@Xenotron — Keew deink. Fut, jet maxaridaxatick semoeno he rikos semothick zaxat axanethol eno peosniz peos jet vaxako zo issonkol velo maxarid zaxan el supoliel te zo ismissow oithol.
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@dtrisml. I would disagree. A good story should leave questions but not bewilderment or the audience asking questions about trival things. If you don't understand something then the story teller has done a poor job for his audience. Movie goers don't pay to make up their own story to try and make sense of what they are seeing. They pay to be entertained.
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@Drakeequation — 42
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i dont dislike prometheus because i 'dont understand it', thats just something you apologists are telling yourselves. i dont like it because it sucked... do you 'understand' that?
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@ Sukkal no you have to really think about it, it isn't one of those simple problems. I am trying to open up new doors and look at big topics in mathematics with that problem. I think when you solve it, you will be really surprised at just how large the implications are.
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BS. A good story [i]can[/i] leave you with a significant number of questions. "2001" or "Solaris," anyone?
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[quote=TheNextLV426][i](a) Movie goers don't pay to make up their own story to try and make sense of what they are seeing. (b) They pay to be entertained.[/i][/quote] I completely disagree with point (a) for a [u]large swath of people[/u]. But, I'll give you two thumbs up for (b). Entertainment is in the brain of the beholder.
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Most of the negativity lately is focused on the characters acting like idiots and the film being too commercial. If anything, the arguments seem to point to a lack of maturity on the part of the script. Solaris and 2001 were brilliantly written and were not afraid to risk being truly unique and not fitting into any molds. Can you imagine if there was a big monster battle at the end of either film tacked on there because the directors thought audiences were expecting it?
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@Drakeequation — I'm happy to give you infinity for the scientific answer to your equation, but 42 is a perfectly valid 'imaginary' answer for a fiction, which this is, one way or the other. The answer '42' is entertaining (to me). It has roots elsewhere. It comes with its own mythology, and it need not be 'correct' to be 'valid' in this (my) context.
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Okay: on the Fifield and Milburn getting lost thing: the "map" was a hologram being generated on the ship NOT something the ground crew carried around with them. The storm was creating interference making it difficult to get a location lock on the stragglers. The storm also prevented them from leaving the temple, so they were only actually "lost" for a short while (i.e. took a wrong turn on the way out - I've done it myself before in buildings I had been in many times). They were obviously not "lost" by the time they found their way back to the ampule room.
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dtrisml
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@ sukkal: Exactly.
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I guarantee you that I will understand it. Do you think that I will like it?
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Wow, the YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT card again?! The stupidity of this astounds me. Melkor [url=http://wp.me/p2tPJ3-1]My review here!!![/url]
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I have no problem with someone who thinks the movie sucks, or hates it for whatever reason. There are plenty of movies I hate. I generally don't spend time seeking out forums about those movies and talking about how much I hate them, that seems a little silly.

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