Sacrificial Engineer Responsible For The Cambrian Explosion

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJune 06, 20123347 Views55 RepliesSince details started coming in about the effects of "The Seed" (the black liquid) in Prometheus I have been ascertaining that it is an evolutionary accelerant/elixir that was created by the Engineers...
This substance has three properties:
1. Breaks down complex organisms (Sacrficial Engineer/Holloway) into genetic, primordial material. That can then reproduce through cell division to be ingested by simple organisms.
2. Accelerates the evolution of simple organisms (worms-cobralien).
3. Re-animates dead cells and dead organisms (Shaws womb and Fifield).
...And here is the probable point of time in which the Sacrificial Engineer was responsible for seeding this substance on Earth...
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion]Cambrian Explosion[/url]
...which supports my ascertations.
June 12, 2012
The big guy may have dissolved a few billion years ago, but I'm sure I've just found his Speedos washed up on the beach at Blackpool........
June 12, 2012
Well, won't yet reveal what Im headed to for I just had an epiphany and need to bake my stuff some more, but will post the black-goo/genesis stuff here + a link to my thread sure.
Until then, must say I just tripped on that nice RS interview which clear things about "what" the Sacrificial Engineer was doing (still not exactly how, though...)
[url=http://www.movies.com/movie-news/ridley-scott-prometheus-interview/8232]http://www.movies.com/movie-news/ridley-scott-prometheus-interview/8232[/url]
One thing is, it proves my version right (seeding all life, occurred many times on many places, not necessarily Earth) but mostly, if I dare say, I think it should push to go for the simpler, most parsimonious theories/assumptions.
see you later, got some stuff to do, then some thinking and writing :)
cheers
June 13, 2012
If we are on message boards guessing at what the screenwriter was too lazy to figure out ,we are screwed.Funny that Ridley had the Android watching Lawrence of Arabia,a movie that makes sense!Ridley knew the script sucked but was probably like" hey I gotta make a film a year, mate. I'm not waiting for a perfect script, I'll make this half baked script look great just like I did with Bladerunner."
June 13, 2012
Hold on guy. You guys mixed thing up.
Engineer at earlier of the scene sacrified himself to make modern human call Homo Sapiens.
Full stop.
June 13, 2012
i think you need to focus on that was called the Great Leap, that shoved Homo Sapien Sapien well ahead of his peers in a VERY short time !!!
research that and tell me if it doesnt fit better!
June 13, 2012
space jockey responsible for cambrian explosion?
no because space jockeys aren't real and have never been to earth.
but assuming your meaning are they responsible for the cambrian explosion in the prometheus universe and that is the timing of their visit to earth I would say:
Judging by the rest of the film I extremely doubt the writers/creators put any thought into that whatsoever. In the end it doesnt matter they seeded their stuff and humans came out at the end that look totally diffirent to them despite being 100% dna match (LOL)
Also I'm still disturbed by the 2 year journey to travel 35 light years.
June 14, 2012
@Rick Jones
so sorry again but as a paleontologist that "Great Leap" thing is far from having a lot of support. Plus it would be inconsistent to imagine the Engineers coming ~50.000y ago. The beginning of the film extensively shows you a naked earth. 50.000y ago, earth was comparable to what it is today in term of biodiversity occupying land, so what would have been the sense in showing a naked earth? Plus how would those genes, released in a remote waterfall, exactly spread among ancestral human populations?
Anyway, my main question for you and many other people here was... what exactly make you consider [i]Homo sapiens[/i] "well ahead of his peers"?
First, notice it's a single 'sapiens' with a lowercase (2ble 'sapiens' was another megalomaniac thing abandoned years ago). Many on this site also speak about that scene implying we are not linked to the rest of life forms...
Well, am maybe 'ahead of my peers' regarding typing on that laptop or booking holidays... I am sure way behind an orca when it comes to hunting fishes and seals... Am way behind a bird when it comes to flying... am way behind a polychaete worm when it comes to living at a depth of 2500m and temp of 80°C...
There is no such thing as 'ahead' and 'behind' in evolution. Simple and small organisms are those surviving major extinction events. We are not ahead, we are among, working on thinking that way for *other* animals would do a lot of good to most 'sapiens'.
June 14, 2012
well said iapetus we dont even know if intelligence or tech intelligence is a good long term survival trait. If we can match animals like crocodiles who've been around millions of years we might have something to shout about.
but i have to say ultimately our sun will go super nova and destroy all life on earth but a tech intelligence like humans has the ability to overcome this . We are the first species on earth that may be able to continue our existance and travel to another star system. If we dont destroy ourselves first.
June 14, 2012
@ iapetus
My comments were for reflection beyond the movie.
And the Great leap is supported as Homo Sapien and Homo sapien neanderthals both derived as seperate species from Homo habilus.
Homo habilus only dates back to 2 million years ago.
I am not sayng this film supports our true science, I am simpl;y pointing out as others have that modern man was created Pre Cambian, Iam stating that we have specific research to support a pronounced advancement of HSS in a short period of time that seperated him form his closest cousins.
hence the theory of DNA enhancement that causes HSS to have 46 chromosomes versus every other primate past and present to have 48.
I made the leap to real world discoveries as fodder for Ridley's tale.
June 15, 2012
Why infect Earth?
Everything the Engineers use is organic. I believe they harnessed the DNA of the species
that is being subjigatted in the mural for thier technology: the ship, thier suits all of it. They
worship the Alien and sacrifice themselves to it so that they can create more organic technology.
I think the reoccurring theme of survival and creation of new life (androids) by us shows that we worship ourselves and use others for our selfish means.
Another theory is that they created these organic devices and they rebelled.
June 15, 2012
It's pretty much impossible for the engineers to have only seeded humanity and not all life on earth, for exactly the reason I already stated in this thread earlier. We share almost all of our DNA with every other life form on this planet, down to bacterial spores that have been dormant for hundreds of millions of years. Since we've seen from the film that engineers have exactly the same genome as us, they too share almost all of their DNA sequence with earth bacteria that have been dormant for hundreds of millions of years. That is because earth bacteria arose from engineers seeding the planet with their DNA. There is really no other possible explanation for that.
Be parsimonious here and don't read too deeply into things.
June 15, 2012
Another Theory:
Who is doing the subjugating?
The ship is organic. Could humans be the subjigatted? It could be a more advanced Alien
race is spreading itself like a virus and using lesser species (us) as slaves. The carriers of
Alien seed.
June 17, 2012
How could the Engineers have any idea that we3 to 3.5 billion years later would be the ultimate product of evolution? They are just adding 'ink to the water' so to speak and awaiting what it would do, they are not to know of unforseen circumstances and unpredictable changes in enviromental conditions such as the Moons orbit around the Earth acts as an accelorant for mating cycles, tides coimg and going, egg laying, migrating, and over all as a counter weight to Eaarth rotation upon its axis as it wheels through space around the Sun. Even the Engineers technology is different in the space ship designs or at least another piece of tech in their cultures socialogical and scientific make up.
October 18, 2012
The Cambrian Explosion records the first truly diverse ecological system in the history of the planet. Among the life forms present were the first mollusks, including gastropods and bivalves; and also the brachiopods with their shells; the arthropods with their segmented bodies and hard exoskeletons, including the trilobites; the trilobites' cousins, the chelicerates, which had the basic framework of their descendents the scorpions and spiders, complete with antennae, long stinger tails, and legs near their mouth; and their cousins, the crustaceans, some of which looked similar to crabs and lobsters even back then; the echinoderms, which were the ancestors of the starfish; the cnidarians, which were primitive precursors to jelly fish and corals; sponges; comb jellies; sea anemones; sea cucumbers; velvet worms; carnivorous worms; and segmented worms. All of these extremely diverse body plans were present during the Cambrian Explosion.
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