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[url=http://www.newburyportnews.com/lifestyle/x138773894/Prometheus-alienates-audiences-with-absurdity]absurdity[/url] 'Prometheus' alienates audiences with absurdity By Greg Vellante Correspondent The Daily News of Newburyport Thu Jun 14, 2012, 03:56 AM EDT There is an entire spectrum of arguments to be had about films in which characters wander around in dark places, point flashlights in the direction of ambiguous sounds, and shockingly exclaim some variation of the question, "What was that?" This type of scene traditionally has been grounded in science fiction or horror. Now, it has become overused to the point of cliche — a genre in and of itself, if you will. I don't get it. Why don't these people just run away from the scary, unidentified noises coming from the dark cave? If you were lost on a foreign planet and a slimy creature emerged from a puddle of black goo, would you call it pet names and attempt to get closer to it? C'mon. Like most people, I would bolt in the opposite direction and never look back. Then again, I have more common sense than any character in Ridley Scott's "Prometheus." A visually stunning but thematically silly film, "Prometheus" is a slight shift of promise for a director who has been gasping for air in a directorial drought. (Have you seen his "Robin Hood?") And yet, he never comes close to reaching the visionary levels of work in films like "Blade Runner" (1982), or the original "Alien" (1979); films hot with inspired sizzle. "Alien," a premier example of the ignorant-people-with-flashlights genre and arguably its inception, is a milestone in both science fiction and filmic history. Thirty-three years later, however, Scott's once-fresh elements feel stale. And "Prometheus," widely promoted as a prequel to "Alien," is all rehashes and setup. Like a roller coaster ridden countless times where all the bumps, dips and loops are anticipated, "Prometheus" is fun and frantic despite its familiarity. I willingly surrendered to every twist and turn. I reluctantly accepted every goofy plot turn. And I did so because once this movie picks up the pace, it mirrors the momentum of a moving train for most of the second act. "Prometheus" features a great performance by Michael Fassbender as android David and a magnificently disgusting scene involving Noomi Rapace. And yet, despite its best efforts to remain stable, the film runs off the rails again in the final minutes amidst a desperate attempt to piece together loose ends in last-second references to "Alien" that don't need to be there. The sad truth about "Prometheus" is that its first half is mere setup for its latter half. Worse yet, the final section is just more setup for a blatantly hinted-at sequel. Considering the screenplay is co-penned by Jon Spaihts, a fledgling writer of one prior film ("The Darkest Hour"), and "Lost" scribe Damon Lindelof, it is no surprise that the third act feels more like a season finale than a cinematic climax. If "Prometheus" stood alone as a self-contained film, which prequels should, it could easily mask the majority of its blunders. Instead, this movie constantly tries to please a pre-existing audience. No surprises, no risks; just a safe, easily accessible placeholder in Ridley Scott's resume: That's "Prometheus." Film has come a long way since 1979. "Prometheus," however, is stuck. In another three decades, it will be remembered most as a missed opportunity.
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brightonrock
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@alteredstate Ah awesome! A fellow Brightonian. I won't start asking you where you live etc. Bit public. Another guy that used to post on here - Derelict' - also worked in Hove. And we went to see Prometheus in the same cinema at the same screening. We just didn't know it. Small world!
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Well yeah i live in Hove to be more precise but i went to Londons bfi to watch prometheus because the last time i went to the marina complex cinema i was a little disappointed so i thought i would do the whole imax treatment, but great to know your in the same vicinity mate.
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Another Good review that tells it like it is.
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brightonrock
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Oh, HOVE actually? I can just hear the elitism in your voice! Haha. Nah Hove is lovely. Much nicer than main Brighton. In fact Hove reminds me of downtown New York: wide streets, beautifully built flats, nice architecture etc, trees on all pavements. Maybe I should move to Hove? Maybe i'm just getting old? You on any other boards or just the Prometheus one?
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LOL always get that from Brightonians lol but i was born and raised in Brighton been here all of my life and love it, been all over the world at different times though but always happy to return.
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I'm just on this site i have a nose around the other boards but rarely comment on them this is the first and only film community i ever been bothered to join.
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@brightonrock...With Regard to The Dark Tower... I have read all 7 books myself, twice...and if Ron Howard doesn't eventually make that film, or someone else at the studio, I will, It has to be and will be made one day !!!
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hahaha, Fifield smoking weeed?? hm, we only see him using his helmet inhaler for smoking tabacco..I like his character, his accent, his fear, his geologist mercenary status , saying, no shouting ´ I love ROCKS` in the face of Shaw..brilliant. the only character in Prometheus besides Janek.
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@Spartacus I'm only half way through the first book and already my mind is going 'WHY HAS THIS NOT BEEN MADE INTO A FILM YET?!?!?!'. Apparently Frank Darabont was trying desperately to do something with it? A TV series maybe? I like Ron Howard, but when it comes to getting the best out of Stephen King: Frank Darabont seems to be the man (Green Mile, Shawshank Redepmtion, The Mist). However 'The Shining', 'Misery'and 'Carrie' are good too? I'm talking shit here. I have no idea who would be best to do it! All I know is that King's literature is tough to translate to the screen. Soooo much of it fails which is such a shame considering the breadth and depth of the books.
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@Kane77 Like you said: I don't think Fifield was smoking weed (they only referenced tobacco). But...if anyone needed weed...it would be Fifield.
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@Brigton King is hard to translate, but the question is of course who will do it..Shining, Kubrick.. Carrie, dePalma..Mist was great.
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@Spartacus I love how you dismiss the whole review simply because the reviewer doesn't understand a few points on the plot. Bearning in mind how many people who love this film and say it needs watching twice I can't see a problem with that, I mean even you get things wrong (like how Holloway gets infected) in a film you claim is "faultless" and a "masterpiece". He actually makes some good points, particularly about how the film tries to clumsily meet the expectations of being a prequel. Without all the pointless xeno murals and creatures this film would have actually made a lot more sense.
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[u]Like you said: I don't think Fifield was smoking weed (they only referenced tobacco). But...if anyone needed weed...it would be Fifield.[/u] What did they say? Let's remind ourselves of their little chat. Miburn - Is that tobacco? Fifield - Huh? Milburn - Is that tobacco in your respirator? Fifield -Yeah. Sure. Tobacco. And we are supposed to take at face value? Not as sarcasm... coming from a sarcastic character like Fifield. Earlier conversation --- It’s minus 12 in here. So, why is this water not frozen? Maybe it ain’t water. Maybe it’s Martian piss. That’s your scientific theory. Is it, Mr. Biology? I think this is the point where I wish I had a clip of Ripley saying ''Did IQs drop sharply while I was away?"
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[u]Without all the pointless xeno murals and creatures this film would have actually made a lot more sense.[/u] The Xeno murals are not trivial. The reason they are only flashed up for a second it to tease us. The one on the ''temple/biolab" ceiling is deliberately a reference to the Cistine Chapel painting of God and Adam. The mural shows something whose head seems very strange, whose arms look like Xenomorph arms.
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What bugs me about it is - as Spartacus pointed out, this was a privately financed expedition. Weyland spent a trillion dollars getting the Prometheus to LV-223; the guy's got so much money, he could have hired Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking, James Watson, Richard Dawkins, Jane Goodall, Rhys Jones, and the Leakeys... and still had money left over. Instead he paid to hire what seems to be a bunch of grad students who at no point in the film follow anything resembling procedure. Weyland was looking for a way to cheat death, by appealing to a superior extraterrestrial race that could have been the creators of human life. Why on earth anyone with his power and resources would trust such a monumental undertaking to such a bunch of nimrods is beyond me.
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@Hadley's Hope Watched it again (girlfriend hadn't seen it yet) and you're totally right. He is being sarcastic. And it clearly is weed. MY BAD!
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The audience chuckled at the 'smoking scene',,and so did I. That scene and the reference ot the song "Love The One Your With" made a nice 1960's connection for me..
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could you stop arguing for no reason. the movie is a prequel to Alien and probably part one. It takes so many things of course of all the movies that are similar till now. The spaceship, the trip to the other planet, the hybernation, the dark place where the enginners have the spaceship. If we think that the first allien movies and theories have over 60 years of life that is acceptable. the only point that is not acceptable is that using the archeological findings of the ancient civilizations they give just some thousands years between the point of creation. But again is a science fiction movie. They try to go away of the original allien and they loose the plot a bit in some point. It is something between Starcraft, Allien 1 and Allien 3. I could say I like it, but basically I lost the plot in some points. Please any help with the worms? Who brought the worms in?

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