Jesus theory - simply NOT true!

amazing_prometheus
MemberOvomorphJune 18, 20124573 Views90 RepliesAll,
Ridley has stated that he CONSIDERED this theory.
CONSIDERED ONLY. So the theory is not true. They thought about it then steered clear. AND THANK HEAVENS THEY DID!
it's a tragically bad theory to try to wrap everything up into the Jesus being a frakking spaceman.
Do you agree?
EDIT- link to monotheism theory is... [url=http://wp.me/p2tPJ3-1A]HERE[/url]
June 18, 2012
It's true!
True!!
TRUE!!!
[b]TRUE!!!![/b]
lol!
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June 18, 2012
The Lone Gunwoman hit the nail on the head in her first post! It's up to the viewer to decide. Unlike Deckard being a replicant in the DC and FC. Nothing left up in the air there. He was a replicant lol.
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June 18, 2012
I quite prefer it the other way around religiously speaking; that the heresy was not killing a Xristos figure, but rather that humanity pervasively, cross-culturally began to turn away from polytheism to monotheism.
If the Engineers are to be interpreted as Annunaki/Igigi or Horus/Thoth/Isis [i]et al[/i] or the denizens of Asgard or the Greco-Roman Pantheon etc. roughly 2,000 years ago was when their mindshare and authority [u]really[/u] began slipping on Earth. Up to that point the concept of monotheism had been largely contained/constrained to single cultures.
June 18, 2012
please please PRETTY PLEASE...not here not now....sigh...Deckard a replicant? Not again....ohhh...lets wait,,,wait..wait for the sequel board to get fired up...we got enough goin here,,,,,groan...
June 18, 2012
Hey, it's not up for debate...in the director's cut and final cut he's a replicant...end of story...Ridley directed the film...the film is Ridley's...he says he's a repplicant...he is...PERIOD.
And for it to even be debated based on what's in those 2 cuts is ridiculous.
Anyway...
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June 18, 2012
And of course Ridley's going to say he "considered" it. He's not going to come right out and say that's where he's going to go in the sequels. I think he might. It would definitely be a way to make money. Christianity+controversy=$$$. He's done a very religious film before and I'm not going to sit here and say he wont go that way because he just may.
Saying "I considered it" doesn't mean he decided not to go that way. You consider anything before you do it or not.
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June 18, 2012
I think what's most interesting about this is what now seems, to me, to have become his habitual tone of self-congratulation and self-justification while talking in empty circles - here, he seems to explain that they dismissed it, while then immediately being unable to resist explaining in detail, why it was such a good idea - I think it's that bizarre combination of tone and meaning that is causing confusion.
Furthermore, he explains that it was dismissed, not because the suggestion is plainly, slightly idiotic, for a great many reasons - but because it was, "too on the nose"?
I wish he'd given any reason in the World but that one.
What does that even mean?
That it couldn't possibly be suggested, after all, because it was just too damn near to "the truth"?
Presumably then, he's come to the conclusion, on our behalf, that we are just not ready for his genius to expose "the truth", or his alternate suggestion of truth, quite so clearly - so he's had to be more indirect?
That would be because, I imagine, the weight of 2000 years of recorded human history - war, religion and all - would really be likely to tremble because of any single nonsense that Ridley Scott could come up with for his Sci-fi movie?...I think not.
I'm starting to wonder if everything hasn't finally gone to his head and had exactly the effect you might predict.
June 18, 2012
And I'm sure Ridley Scott reserves the right to change his mind any damn time he pleases like everyone else. He can say no and turn around and say yes 5 seconds later if he wants.
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June 18, 2012
@Jett...Change my mind...I dare you. Really though, if someone gives me reasons that make sense and I can agree with I can change my mind. It's happened before. That's why I invite people to try. I'm not here to say I know everything even though sometimes I act like I do.
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June 18, 2012
@Jet Don´t forget the $$.
@Engineering There is a fact that no one can deny and it is the heavy christian symbolism present in the movie.
June 18, 2012
& it would be just like Ridley to tell Harrison to 'act' as if he were human.......& of course Deckard THINKS he's a human......oh bugger never mind I'm doing my own head in.......lol
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
June 18, 2012
I like the theory about the spread of monotheism pissing off the engineers. I just hope that this addressed in the next movie.
I am of the opinion that the sequel will answer some questions, but also generate more questions. Thats what happens in philosophy and science. Anyone who thinks that there are black and white answers in life does not understand the nature of science.
June 18, 2012
Nobody has mentioned that if there is a cave drawing from Hawaii then the whole 'lets go avenge Jesus' plan falls apart. The settlement of Hawaii was at earliest 300 CE (or as the christians say 300 AD) and the Hawaiian cave drawing being 7th Century.
Just sayin...
June 18, 2012
You mean....why Harrison Ford said he played a human in Blade Runner, not a replicant? And why this came up years after the film was made and never hinted at until RS came out with it on his own?
Sounds like a familiar strain from Ridley...years later we find out that the Space Jockey wasn't the skeleton we had all thought it was for dozens of years, but now it's a suit for the purposes of another film?
Or perhaps a recent quote from Ridley is most telling of all in this peculiar trait Ridley seems to have..." A canvas, is never done, it's never done"..speaking about his own pastime painting, and other painters as well, I believe the Old Masters.
A revealing personality trait I beleive, and in full operational mode whenever it can be judicously applied.
Now...Rildey pulled off a convincing arguement for the suit idea with this film, I'll give him that...I'm not happy with it, but it did work..sorta. Barely.
Ford is on record flatly denying he played a replicant and the evidence is legion in his favor...it is no challenge at all to claim years later and EDIT years later as well that the actor who played the role didnt know what role he was playing. There really isnt enough space here to really make the case which shouldnt even be a question LOL
But enough...wheres Jesus? Isnt he supposed to know the real deal, the true blue, the Mojo Raja?
Engineering...youre cool, it's all good.... we're here to just ramble
June 18, 2012
The unicorn footage from "Legend" was added into the DC [i]long[/i] after "Bladerunner" was in the can.
June 18, 2012
@Darthgator...[i]I am of the opinion that the sequel will answer some questions, but also generate more questions. Thats what happens in philosophy and science. Anyone who thinks that there are black and white answers in life does not understand the nature of science.
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Amen to all of that. I've always had the PKD view that questions are so much more interesting than the answers. If there even are any answers in the true sense of the word.
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