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colonial soldier
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 1:20 PMFrom the negative poster/hater. Good news for fanboys/girls that Prometheus has now broken even and will most likely make a decent profit to warrant some more awful sequels!!
Great news for a production budget of 130 million
[url=http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=prometheus.htm]Box office mojo[/url]
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $108,547,000 41.6%
+ Foreign: $152,400,000 58.4%
= Worldwide: $260,947,000
41 Replies
TheBlueMan
MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 1:09 AMThe film definitely seems as if it is, or will be, profitable.
I think we will get a good, high-budget sequel.
My guess is that this film will make a large amount of money on the back-end, when the sequel(s) come out. People will want to go back and find the "oh yeah" moments in [i]Prometheus[/i] that gave hints about the sequel(s).
That is the good thing about Ridley's films. How many times have people re-watched, say, [i]Blade Runner[/i], to find extra clues and information? A lot.
I think the same will hold true for this film.

artyoh
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 1:52 PM@Engineer Xeno - Chr1s
"Either way Prometheus 2/Paradise would be the movie I would rather queue to see, it takes a dump on avatar in every way."
lol........sad, but true.

Custodian
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 1:26 PMLights, camera, roll those cameras for Paradise.
Imagine, in maybe 2014/15, both Prometheus2 and Avatar2 coming out as Summer Blockbusters.
What a lovely thought.
2013 sci-fi horror novels 'Custodian' and 'Tandem' available from Amazon, B&N, iTunes etc...

Sky
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 1:36 PMWhy say awful sequel? its not 80s or 90s anymore.
Admit it, you're not going to see alien part 1 again. Scifi on that scale is long dead. This is short attention span information age. Even alien 2-3-4 were awful but prople dont' admit that.
Uncertainty is the only certainty there is, and knowing how to live with insecurity is the only security.
Ingwar
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 1:38 PMI'm big fan boy and I'm looking forward to see those 'awful sequels'.
Ingwar
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 1:38 PMAnd don't forget about countries where Prometheus hasn't been played which means this 'awful' movie will earn more:
Release dates for Prometheus:
Georgia 28 June
Poland 20 July
Austria 8 August
Germany 9 August
Switzerland 9 August (German speaking region)
Spain 10 August
Japan 24 August
Italy 19 October
Switzerland 19 October (Italian speaking region)

Engineer Xeno - Chr1s
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 1:39 PMI reckon avatar 2 would be a christmas movie, got a hunch on it, worked with the first one and is a trick all of the lord of the rings movies used as is the hobbit - maybe its to lure in everyone from all the stress of xmas shopping and what not into escapism.
Either way Prometheus 2/Paradise would be the movie I would rather queue to see, it takes a dump on avatar in every way.
The success of this one only means the hope of a big budget for paradise and to lure ridley scott into securing in directing the sequel. Its the only way otherwise we might as well just class prometheus as the last proper journey into the world of the zeta II reticuli system and its gigeresque inhabitants.

Nuck Chorris
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 2:45 PMI expected 250Mill - but after germany and all these other countries, i think it will stop at 320Mill.
YEAH! So i hope this is a SIGN that there IS audience for "intelligent sci-fi" (though i am not sure how intelligent prometheus really is...).

fader
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 3:09 PMPrometheus will make buckets load of monie, only movie I know of that has stird up the turd pile so much on the net and news papers, magazines ect.... and lets not forget the dvd/blueray sales and collector items as well. I for one not worry about it making money, what I'm worried about is Ridley going to be around for the sequels.... He's 74-75 now... I think the 1st sequel has already been done. I get this feeling it was filmed w/the 1st movie, just a feeling tho, it makes sense
I should reach the frontier in about 6 weeks. With a little luck, the network will pick me up. This is Ripley, last survivor of the Nostromo....

Drakeequation
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 3:10 PMToo bad the marketing campaign cost at least 150 million which makes the total cost at least 270 million...nothing official about it.

Richie
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 3:27 PMAdd DVD's...and eventual Cable TV release and this baby made some money $$$.
Also, it is not a question for me of what film to see or not see, I will probably see them all...However, whihc one rules remians to be seen...

artyoh
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 3:43 PM@Drakeequation
"Too bad the marketing campaign cost at least 150 million which makes the total cost at least 270 million...nothing official about it."
Linky for marketing costs of "Prometheus?"

colonial soldier
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 10:33 PM@Drake-In what movie has marketing cost that much? Also, more than the total movie budget? lol I think not.
Perhaps 10-20 million (50 max) not 150.
@Fader. If Clint Eastwood could keep making movies; then Ridley can.

sukkal
MemberOvomorphJun-25-2012 12:44 AM
They probably have spent $100 million or so on marketing, but it's clearly on its way to at least $350 million. Income from physical media sales is also relevant to the franchise value overall.

PrivateHudson
MemberOvomorphJun-25-2012 7:14 PMI think it's pretty much played out in the US. Pixar's Brave and Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter knocked it from #2 to #4. Let's see how it does in Germany, Japan and the foreign market...I think it will do very well!! Those grosses should put it over the top to become one of the most successful films of 2012 and on a path to a sequel!!!

moviefan12
MemberOvomorphJun-25-2012 10:08 PMAgree with Drakeequation, its too early to say Prometheus turned a profit. Factor in the marketing costs plus profit points (profit sharing) that i'm sure Ridley, Charlize Theron, the writer and producers all are getting - the studio isnt making as much as you think.
Anyway, its not just the $$$ that matters. what matters also is whether the movie is memorable enough and made enough impact (amongst the general movie going audience - not just Alien fans) to justify a sequel. That question i think is still up in the air. When its all said and done, i have a hard time seeing Prometheus standing out after Spider-Man, The Dark Knight Rises and the rest of the summer movies have their time to shine. It didnt do much imo to stand out from the crowd.

Drakeequation
MemberOvomorphJun-25-2012 11:23 PMOne of the most successful films of 2012? You do realize that The Avengers earned 1.4 billion dollars and the Dark Knight Rises (which will probably also break 1 billion) and Spiderman have yet to be released? Before the year is over we will see the release of The Hobbit, the new Bourne film, Skyfall, Twilight: Breaking Dawn Part 2, and Life of Pi (all of which are expected to make a lot at the box office). Heck Men In Black 3 has already earned 577 million worldwide. Say what you want about the content of Prometheus, but its box office gross so far is tepid at best. John Carter of Mars had a marketing campaign that cost over 100 million, I would not be surprised if Prometheus' cost anywhere from 150-200 million.

Rubirosa
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 1:22 AMThat is fantastic news. If it is making a profit, then a sequel will follow. Oh, and yes I do await the sequel with open arms. A true Alien fan would never jump ship✨

Custodian
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 1:56 AMwouldn't CREATIVE ACCOUNTING ensure that a profit was never made?
;)
2013 sci-fi horror novels 'Custodian' and 'Tandem' available from Amazon, B&N, iTunes etc...

PrivateHudson
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 8:00 AMDrake,
Why do you keep banging the drum of doom for this film? Seriously, dude!! What's up with that?
Seriously, you're comparing the returns of Prometheus (again, an R rated film) to Avengers -- a film with a built in, mass appeal audience, and a PG-13 rating? I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that it was a given Avengers would beat Prometheus's returns. And it's very rare that ANY film is as successful as Avengers has been. Again, the studio has probably set expectations that are reasonable. They know, going in, that an R-rated film is not going to top a G or comic book movie with mass appeal. At least I would hope they would be competent enough to know that.
Anyway, the boxofficemojo.com site, claims the Prometheus budget at $130 million. There are many other films that have done FAR worse! Take Dark Shadows (please!) -- that had a budget of $150 mil and tanked and it was a hallowed TIM BURTON/Johnny Depp film!! Battleship cost $209 mil...it tanked too!! I might add neither of those had R ratings. Additionally, neither Rock of Ages or the new Adam Sandler film were able to make more money and, as a result, Prometheus has held it's own in the box office standings. Even thought it dropped to #4 in the US, it's still in the top ten. For an R rated film out this long, thats an achievement!
So compared to other films with high expectations, Prometheus has done very very well!!
ALIEN and Blade Runner were not mega hits at the box office either I might add.

Drakeequation
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 12:19 PM@PrivateHudson I am not "banging the drum of doom" for the film in the least. What I am doing, is discussing the numbers. When you talk about things like these you need to be able to forget about the movie and just focus on expenditures verses profits. The fact that Prometheus is rated R has nothing to do with if the studio will think it is a success. The executives care about profits and filling their wallets, they don't care about the circumstances or excuses. They spent X on the marketing campaign and production of the film so they expect Y in return. If the Y they get is not much larger than X then the film is not a huge success. If I put money into a project and everyone swears up and down that it is going to be a huge hit and then it comes back with meager profits I will not care about the circumstances, I just want my money. That is how the movie industry works, the people funding these projects are not fanboys and could care less about the content of the film, they are businessmen who expect solid returns on their investment. And as for Dark Shadows, you keep ignoring the fact that Prometheus had a much costlier MARKETING budget (which is often times more than the production budget for films with such a huge marketing and viral campaign) than Dark Shadows OR Battleship. Its ranking does not matter in the least as the people who fund these films cannot buy a new yacht or house with the film's ranking.

artyoh
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 8:59 PM@Drakeequation
Marketing costs for movies have gone up over time, but the average for movies these days, is ~ 50% of the production budget. For "Prometheus" that works out to something between 60 and 65 million.
"John Carter" had a production budget of 250 miiion, and they spent 100 million for marketing.
Where are the hard numbers to support your claim that the marketing budget of this movie was actually greater than its' production costs?

moviefan12
MemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 2:31 AMDomestically in the U.S. - Madagascar 3, MIB 3 and Snow White and the Huntsman have all done more then Prometheus by a sizable margin. Also, Brave just in its opening weekend did 2/3's of Prometheus' total box-office. Therefore i also fail to see how someone can say Prometheus is so successful.
The true test for Prometheus would be if it opened now in late June or July would it have made even close to the same amount of $$$. I really doubt it.
If it went head to head vs. Dark Knight Rises it would get its a$$ kicked big time.
Heck it couldn't even beat Madagascar 3.

moviefan12
MemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 2:39 AMLOL i wonder if Charlize Theron knew Snow White would make more then Prometheus.

Engineering
MemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 6:29 AMJust a little info that may shed some light on Scott and a sequel. I was watching the featurettes on the making of Matchstick Men yesterday and Scott was then working on his Tripoli project. He said that there was going to be a 7 month prep on Tripoli and that he would only be working hard on a 7 month prep for maybe 2 months. So he decided he wanted to do something in the 5 months before they started shooting. This turned out to be Matchstick Men. Now I'm not sure if the Tripoli project being cancelled gave them more time to shoot Matchstick Men but obviously Scott thought he would be able to finish the main work on the film before he started Tripoli.
I'm not sure but The Couselor seems to me more like a Matchstick Men type film in terms of how long it will take to make rather than being a film like Kingdom of Heaven or Prometheus where there's much more to be done.
Just some food for thought.
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PrivateHudson
MemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 10:14 AMMoviefan --
Snow White has NOT made more money than Prometheus. Not in the US anyway...and I would say the same is true in the UK since it was the number one movie there for a long time!
Here's the tally as it stands now:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
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