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Question (or plot hole) about the ending...

Bo Cherry

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Obviously, spoilers ahead...(like I need to say that anymore though) What does Shaw plan to do for food and water now that she's travelling in the unknown depths of space? I'm just saying. Possible plot hole?
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[u]Am I the only one that thinks the solution to this question is really simple? David modifies the engineer cryo pod to accommodate Shaw.[/u] Depending on how fast this ship is, she may not need to go into stasis. What needs to be modified is the interaction with the flight system, and this may explain why although the Space Jockey died on Dec 26th, 2093 Shaw and David don't take off until Jan 1st 2093. 6 days later have passed on an unfriendly planet. I can imagine that the seat modification takes a while, and surely there are also some trust issues with David to be worked out, so Shaw (unless she is still the most gullible lead character in the Alien universe) would be wise to leave Davids head off, and instead ask him to tell her how to fix the chair and fly the ship.
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I'm guessing the lifeboat had a decent stock of food in it. It's not that much a chore to move the food from there to the other ship.
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[u]I'm guessing the lifeboat had a decent stock of food in it. It's not that much a chore to move the food from there to the other ship.[/u] Provoded you find a flamethrower to deal with the Xenomorph that hatched in it... then yes, that would be a good idea. Otherwise, I think I'd take my chances with whatever rations she russled up in the domes.
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Flamethrower, chimney and bacon has to be there.
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Sorry ive not read every comment on this thread. there's alot. so apologies if this has been asked. but i kinda presumed (and is it not hard to to make that assumption?) that yes David will show shaw how to fly or program the ship for flight. and that she'll just jump into one of the engineer cryo chambers while david monitors the flight? maybe, maybe not. but jeez what happens when she gets there? food? water? oxygen?
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[u]Sorry ive not read every comment on this thread. there's alot. so apologies if this has been asked.[/u] This is only the second page :) You can't be bothered to read a dozen comments before asking someone to repeat themselves? I'm yanking your chain, a bit, but you remind me of a dude I once worked with :p [u] but i kinda presumed (and is it not hard to to make that assumption?) that yes David will show shaw how to fly or program the ship for flight. and that she'll just jump into one of the engineer cryo chambers while david monitors the flight? maybe, maybe not. [/u] She's just go off to sleep, with no worries about the guy who poisoned her boyfriend? He could fly home, with her dead body ejected into space... and present the juggernaut to Weyland Corp in return for a small change in the law allowing androids to inherit... Or he could fly to the Engineer home world, presenting her as a gift. Remember he has no programmed loyalty to her, that only applied to Weyland, who is now dead. I think her first priority has to be to get some modification so that the ship can be flown by someone who's not a giant with biomechanical implants. After that, I'd say she demands that David teach her the basics of navigation and flight systems on board. She's a quick learner for things like skills, (it's the more advanced interpersonal and situational interpretation stuff she's naive about.) Hence the 6 day delay before departure. She's more interested in answers than her long term survival.
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Ah Apologies im just reading down the 2nd page now and see my question has already been addressed. bit of speculation about this. dont get me wrong i like a bit of speculation but theres speculation and then just making stuff up. given what we know already and whats there in the film. i think some simplistic evidentual and kinda blatant examples are being trod upon. for the sake of overblowing the plot lines....its fine its a good read but....wow! its alot more simple than that.....i remember this happened with the matrix. and there where soooo many dissapointed people out there.
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Hadleys hope to be honest i didnt read all the comments as you put me off with your constant ramblings you seem to be on every thread in every room ...with these giant long winded sometimes unfounded examples of putting your own kinda obsessed theory on every one elses take. i didnt want to be rude about it but you must sit on this stuff night and day. what did it take you minutes to reply back....look i dont mean to diss. but i could pick your stuff apart too. but i choose to keep things predominantly based on what i saw in the film and put parts together that way....as much as admire your enthusiasm. your not the all mighty presence on this subject. though you seem to think you are there's alotta flaws in your stuff too. but ultimately you seem to want to try and make up your own points to answer some one elses point... maybe this maybe that.... if there this and that....and ultimately i just find you boring.....and thats why i didnt...though i have now read most of all the posts here. you need to get a life man.
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AND also HH there wasnt a dozen comments there was 24 or 25. but i lost the will to live half way down yours.
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[u]Hadleys hope to be honest i didnt read all the comments as you put me off [/u] Don't look for excuses for laziness. Be big enough to admit it, rather than getting personal. I made a mild joke at your expense for not reading comments, and you come back with this? Childish Nickell, imho [u]with your constant ramblings you seem to be on every thread in every room ...with these giant long winded sometimes unfounded examples of putting your own kinda obsessed theory on every one elses take. [/u] I didn't know I needed your permission before posting anything. My stuff isn't unfounded. It's conjecture, but all based on something, and it's what's on the screen. I've said in most of those long winded posts that there's little conclusive evidence in the film for anything. It's one of the reasons that they are long winded posts, I not only state what I suspect, but why... for people who are interested.... for people who have the attention span. [u]i didnt want to be rude about it but you must sit on this stuff night and day. what did it take you minutes to reply back.... [/u] I've actually been confined to bed sick, so the computer is right here. If you don't want to read, you don't have to. Some people enjoy the discussion and have told me so and posted it on the thread. [u]look i dont mean to diss. but i could pick your stuff apart too. [/u] Go ahead, but remember, 'none of it is proven' is hardly picking it apart when I've repeatedly stated that it's based on circumstantial evidence. [u].as much as admire your enthusiasm. your not the all mighty presence on this subject. [/u] Show me where I asserted that my interpretation is unquestionable fact, and nobody can disagree? I can show you exactly the opposite in my discussion with Snorkelbottom in another thread. I lay out where I think many interpretations are plausible. [u]though you seem to think you are there's alotta flaws in your stuff too. [/u] Fine, discuss them. I won't [u]take[/u] it personally, if you don't [u]make[/u] it personal. It's just a discussion. [u]but ultimately you seem to want to try and make up your own points to answer some one elses point... maybe this maybe that.... if there this and that....and ultimately i just find you boring.... [/u] You can't have it both ways... either I think I'm the supreme source of fact, or I am phrasing everything with conditionals and conjecture. One or the other. Boring? That's your opinion, and your entitled to it. Everybody has one, just like they have one of something else, and you know what your opinion or mine is worth at Starbucks. It won't get you coffee without some money to back it up. [u].and thats why i didnt...though i have now read most of all the posts here. you need to get a life man. [/u] That's not only personal but terribly ill informed. Ask Ingwar, who I've corresponded with in fluent Polish, or Gimmeafacehug, who I wrote to in Dutch, or anyone I replied to in French if they think I don't get out much. I may be on my back in bed this weekend, but I'll be at work on Monday, and I'll be hiking in the mountains this summer. But you, guess at my life from my interpretation of a movie on the internet. I'll take a guess at your life. You are not employed anywhere as a detective.... am I right? [u]AND also HH there wasnt a dozen comments there was 24 or 25. but i lost the will to live half way down yours. [/u] You took the time to count eventually. Well done. If you lost the will to live over a bit of writing, I can't help you. You'll just have to get a better attitude to life. If you can't follow an argument - not my problem If you can't take a gentle joke about not reading 2 pages of comments without getting overly defensive and personal - not my problem. I look forward to your detail analysis... and don't forget to explain where your ideas come from so nobody thinks it's 'flawed' or taken from something not seen on screen.
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My longest post on page 1 was a response to someone who asked me why I assume something. Seems that they found it interesting enough to ask, and I was courteous enough to give my reasons for my opinions. That's a pleasant discussion, unlike yours. Just like answering your question, I gave my opinion and why I thought it made sense. I didn't simply write 'pfff ... David's not gonna fly it' did I ? I did make a little joke at your expense, and I put in smileys and statements to show it was meant in jest. If you have a sense of humor deficiency or low self esteem then I'm sorry for offending you, but it's meant as gentle humor. You didn't seem able to come back with anything witty in response I note. But don't worry, it won't ruin my Sunday any more than being unwell will. In fact, I'll probably be up and about in the afternoon.
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@Hadleys hope. Thankyou for proving my point.
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You are welcome to your ill-formed opinions. I notice you haven't put up the detailed picking apart that you boasted about... so I'll draw my own conclusion from that shall I?
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haha my opinions arent ill informed. if you can't see whats wrong thats your problem. i think you need to get over yourself. maybe its me though i do now have a burden of knowledge about this film. so when i see things completely of on a random tangent and overblown explanation and i know that it wasn't even a consideration in the film ....it makes me go...jesus some people are obsessed. let me tell you something this film is way more simple than what you've come up with. dont get me wrong ill admit despite this recent correspondance i have enjoyed reading your posts from time to time. but alot of what you've written wasnt even a consideration for the film or the sequel. it just didnt exist....if you want to know how i know this then DM me. its not something im going to put on in public. so when i keep reading especially your input to things that arent even a consideration and see how obsessed you are with responding to people assertions and good points with your own emblasoned conjecture. i think jeeezo. look ultimately i wish you no ill feeling. your obviously very passionate and into this in a big way. and thats fine. really. but ultimaterly your ramblings especially those going on outside the film i have no interest in. i dont really feel the need to be witty or condescending. its just not that interesting....to much detail too much out of balance and kilter. i mean in regards to the actual film. im sorry man but you seem to have fallen for the ultimate viral campaign getting into this so much. so get well soon wish you all the best.
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Thanks, but I didn't even see the viral marketing until after the movie. I haven't had a TV set since... well before my kids were born actually. I just spot a lot of things in Ridley's Blade Runner, and Kubrik films (of which Scott is a huge fan, and often imitates) so I don't think I'm out on a limb seeing deliberate reasons for things that may appear trivial in the film. Sure PM me about how I've missed the simplicity of the film. That could be an interesting discussion for us (but boring for everyone else if they had to read it here perhaps).
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i will. i'll PM you now. and then i'm off to London. :)
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Okay. have a nice journey.
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I love how my simple question turned into somewhat of a fight haha. But no one has seemed to flat out answer my question yet...
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Sorry double post.

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