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No disrespect but he think that the black goo mutated into xenos on LV-223 because of the crucifixon ooccurring light years away? Is that not whacky to the maximus?
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Indy John
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here is no such thing as 'coincidence. in big budget movies....everything presented has a purpose...
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There is a lot of Christian symbolism in the film, but Ridley specifically said in response to the 2,000-year-ago ‘coincidence’ that it was considered as a concrete backstory element tied to the crucifixion, but also abandoned because it was "too on the nose," which I interpret as too obvious (and uninteresting).
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I don't think it would have anything to do with the ACTUAL crucifixon that is part of Christian religion. I think he decided not to go in that direction because IMO, it would be too much of a controversy. And negative feedback from the Christian religion would probably be the first thing FOX brought up about the idea. Anyway I did make a post or a reply (can't remember which) about this subject recently, and I think that the director was using signs that we saw as "Christian" because it's one of the most, if not THE most recognized religion. So with the film making trick of repetition to confirm our intuitions, Ridley constantly is reminding us and assuring us that religion "in general" has a big big role in the movie. I just personally believe it has to do with us needing to understand that Shaw is battling with some serious internal issues ( no pun intended) with her religious beliefs, and she most likely keeps switching back and forth from (wanting to believe in a pure, all forgiving God) and (maybe we where just created by alien beings for some sinister reason, or for some reason we just can't understand). My main point is, I don't think that Ridley would be so brave as to replace any real specific religion with an Engineers race ( such as replace "Jesus Christ" with "Engineer sent to Earth". But instead, he's trying to portray the characters as being in constant conflict in their minds relating to their own religious beliefs and doubts. Put it this way, lets say: 1 - You are (insert religion here) , because that's how you where raised, but 2 - Now you're in a future where technology has taken the human race to distant planets , and faster than light travel, so perhaps humans are just part of a random evolution 3 - And on top of that, you also discover that there is indeed intelligent life out there and they may even be our genetic creators. That's 3 pretty damn big things to have racing through your mind, especially if you're Shaw and you've experienced everything from her point of view.
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"..That's 3 pretty damn big things to have racing through your mind, especially if you're Shaw and you've experienced everything from her point of view. .." As important as we see those themes,,when Shaw's life is on the line,,she does not have time to think...just act,,Direct link from Survival thinking...to action,,No stopping to anaylyze the points you make here.. And this mean her actions sort of define what is important in her life. At the movie's end .. if Shaw was in the position to destroy the Engineers;' ship....or take off to meet.... what she hope's is ....her Creator,,. what's her choice? Now that choice would answer what is important to her life..
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm, No This has nothing to do with what she does when her life is on the line. When her life is on the line, she SURVIVES. Just like anybody else would do. I'm talking about her constant struggle within herself, WHEN SHE HAS TIME TO THINK. She didn't spend every last second of the film surviving. She made a conscious decision to follow Weyland, David and the others back to the ship to meet the Engineer. And she made that decision based on point #3. Because she wanted to investigate that point further, face to face. No offense but I personally don't think it's that hard to figure out what I mentioned here. And you even contradicted yourself at the end there: QUOTE: "At the movie's end .. if Shaw was in the position to destroy the Engineers;' ship....or take off to meet.... what she hope's is ....her Creator,,. what's her choice? Now that choice would answer what is important to her life." :END QUOTE You even came to the conclusion that she was leaning towards point 3 when you said "what she hope's is ....her Creator" - - - - - If you again, take in to account point # 3, Then that means she still wanted to learn more about that, because she still can't decide which of my 3 points she wanted to believe in. And it's kinda not hard to pick which of those 3 points to investigate, when just a few minutes before she had visual affirmation, and physical contact with previously mentioned "intelligent life" So like any other person investigating something, she wants more information to come to a final conclusion.
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THere is no doubt she survives ..But how much of this is doue to 'luck' ...and how much is due her will to seek out something more ..something meaningful. Yea I guess I am human after all,,with contradictions..
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