Prometheus has landed.

I totally agree freeplanet... everytime I watch the film I wait fo the the line "Promethius has landed". It not being said (by anyone but my subconcious... as for audience involvement its a cheap trick, I creditted Scott for not doing through away stuff like that). I Don't understand (and accepting Mr.L's lustreless and limping script flaws and holes and loving this cinematic treat all the same(works just as well as a silent flick!)) why a Capt. to a strange new world, yrs from Earth and forerunning his employeers wishes would not (for the crew at least) announce that the ship had touched down! Maybe Janek whispered it to himself or more likely, I had pupiosley blocked it out in the belief that with no comfomation I could ignore it....... drat you Freeplanet! :)

Why would Janek want to ape Neil Armstrong? It's set in an era when deep space travel is routine. It was obvious that the damned thing had landed, so it was a reasonable edit if ever it was there in the first place.

">ZZ, so then why the accompanying RIDICULOUS countdown, too. Means nothing, logistically - you're either landed or you're not. "Brace for landing prcedure," covers the act of getting ready to land, and the landing. [b]You don't hear the captain of a commercial airliner or oceanliner doing a COUNTDOWN[/b], ffs.

Punx, the Spaihts script might have been even weaker - WILL NO F***ING WRITER/DIRECTOR broach the subject of the lone alien's [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/9176]VAMPIRE-LIKE ALLURE[/url]? It's clearly doing something in Alien whereby the victims are TRANSFIXED, nailed to the spot in awe - yeah might just be terror, but might also be some subsonic Seduction Wave, you know, sax-alien-ophone.

Why is a countdown RIDICULOUS, exactly? Why do you think countdowns are used on space missions? They're useful now, and they will still be useful in a thousand years.

oh Prometheus landed all right... but not the way it should have, sadly.

im very glad janek didnt proclaim "prometheus has landed" (agree with your comment zzplural). The slogan was just a silly marketing gimick...completely unnecessary within the framework of the film.

That reminds me, doesn't Holloway even say the "One small step" line at one point?? I think I blocked all the cheezyness out while in theatre, now I am having flashbacks...

@David 1: I'll grant you that one. A lot of people don't have the brainpower to realise what a brilliant movie it is, unfortunately, and they contribute to the general drag on its IMDB rating, bringing it down to a paltry 7.6.

Svanya: I believe he said it, yes.

@zzplural: though i dont think lack of brain power is the exclusive cause for some of the prometheus hate (preconceived notions, personal aesthetics, group think etc. being some of the contributing factors), i do completely agree with the gist of your comment. btw, are you sporting a picture of gillian anderson (looks like her)? @david 1 and svanya: it was clear that the inclusion of holloway's line ("one small step") was to further illustrate the brash and somewhat idiotic nature of his character. Shaw's response of "seriously?" was meant to echo the audiences' reaction to holloway's comment. It wasnt as if the creators of the film thought..."oh, this will be a neato, tricky, slick, and totally badass line to include". The reaction that we all had to holloway's line was what the writers intended.

I spend way too much time on this forum. LOL.

[i]zzplural I'll grant you that one. A lot of people don't have the brainpower to realise what a brilliant movie it is, unfortunately, and they contribute to the general drag on its IMDB rating, bringing it down to a paltry 7.6.[/i] Was that really Necessary, zzplural? Everyone has a right to their opinion, just because someone did not like the movie does not mean they lack intelligence. And, pertaining to joeyjoe's question; I believe your avatar is Gillian Anderson, correct? I had asked you that awhile back too. People want to know :P

Well if everybody has a right to voice there opinion. Then all I have to say is this thread is sad. It makes no sense what so ever. Give me something that will make me think.

PROMETHEUS HAS LANDED" I didn't miss this line in the movie. I suspect it will be used to launch the DVD sales..

@joeyjoe: You're quite right. Holloway was high on anticipation and excitement. IIRC he even whooped at one point. So the throwaway 'one small step' comment was in character. @svanya: Yes, I believe it was necessary to say that. I've seen so many comments where people aggressively try to tear it down for completely spurious reasons that I can hardly think otherwise. In England, we have a word for aggressive dumb people who make loud noises: CHAV (council-housed and violent). @both: Yes, my avatar is indeed a representation of Gillian Anderson. Looking more than a little exasperated, I have to say!

Punx, what is wrong with these people? Do you remember Hercules Poirrot or Murder She Wrote or Sherlock or Morse where the detective would confront a group of assembled suspects and announce, "No, the murderer is..." THAT MOMENT. The omission of 'Prometheus has landed' after all the times it's been used in the trailers was just as if Poirrot or Lansbury or Sherlock or Morse has omited to name the murderer. As corny as the line was, I was really looking forward to it. In fact, I cried inside, a little, like a ittw giwl who'd had her ittw wowwy pop stolen from here by the school bully. Imagine that, just the credits rolling up after the "murderer is..." It can't be just me and thee? LOL

@zzplural: G.A. is a complete goddess. She is everything that is right with this world. haha. anyways...are you a big fan?

@joeyjoe: Yeah, G.A. is a fine woman And very nice to look at :-) Perfectly cast in the X Files, of which I saw many an episode when it was on TV. Haven't seen much of her lately, though. Might catch her in 'The Curse of The Buxom Strumpet', which is in pre-production. Now there's a title for you!

@zzplural; Keep in mind there are people on both sides who have extreme views on the movie. I agree the uber negative naysayers have issues but I don't think it is a lack of intelligence. There are an equal amount of people that will claim the movie is a flawless masterpiece. Don't confuse those radicals with regular people who simply enjoyed or didn't enjoy the movie for more down to earth reasons.

I was surprised how quickly they found the Temples in the first place.... at that point my mind was closed to the dialog and wanted to see the effects... "God does not build in straight lines..." what the hell is he talking about.... anyway, after that line I was numb... my hopes were dashed, and the emotional content of my being laid waste to that statement...

@patch kat God occasionally builds in straight lines - e.g. tree trunks, cracks in icebergs etc. but Holloway was specifically referring to the ground markings emanating from the Engineer's pyramids. From memory, they were indicated in colour on one of the computer displays. He was saying that they were artificial. There was something similar in the movie [i]Contact[/i] where a series of prime numbers were detected from space, a sure sign of a non-natural phenomenon.

Now, while I'm happy for those that thought it necessary to (intentionally or accidentally) derail this VERY IMPORTANT thread from its original remit... Let's get it back on course, "Why would a producer/director/writer team, having hyped the PROMETHEUS HAS LANDED 'legend' during umpteen trailers/virals suddenly decide to LEAVE A GAPING HOLE in the movie, just at the point they'd previously (vociferously) marketed?" And how does this deletion relate (do you think?) to the further revelations that THERE'S A BIG SURPRISE/RE-LAUNCH on its way that may suggest that David 8 and his mechanical kind are NOT TO BE TRUSTED. :)

Erm...hmm... I always felt the line worked better exclusively in the trailer because the context of the landing had already been set in the movie itself.

@FreePlanet: In answer to your 'very important' question... Trailers are usually produced a long time before a movie has been fully edited. Driven by a marketing department. The line may have been useful in a 1-minute segment where you get to see very little of the landing sequence but was not necessary for the movie itself. I can't speak for Ridley Scott, but I imagine that his busy schedule does not extend to producing the trailers for numerous markets all over the world, so I'd be inclined to knock the conspiracy theory on the head.

ZZ, I'm a big boy and I know how trailers are made, ffs. That's not my point. They OMITED i.e. PHYSICALLY DELETED that "liver-eagle has landed" line from A VALID SPACE IN THE FILM, a groove already carved in pre-production, a place where the dialogue (or monologue) "belonged". Maybe the P r o m e t h e u s tagline should have been, "In space no one can hear you land." MY STAB AT U.K. HUMOUR. Hey, come on, it's early in the morning, [i]chez nous[/i].

I will pay special attention to that moment the next time I see the movie, FreePlanet, in order to more fully understand your anguish.

I wonder if Scott'll "bow to pressure" and re-insert the line "Prometheus has landed," into its rightful place in the RE-RELEASED film?

I doubt it. Having watched the movie again yesterday, specifically paying attention to this scene, it works fine as it is.

Personally, I was relieved that the line was omitted. It sounded tacked on to me, like it was done in a studio after the fact. Kinda cheapened the trailer even. Just my perspective. I do fall into the masterpiece camp, btw. and just wanted to suggest that "masterpiece" doesn't necessarily mean "flawless". It's subjective, for sure. Beauty is in the eye, friends!

@major noob: +1

Well well well, here's the MISSING LINE at the back end of a CLIP FROM THE FILM. [url=http://www.fxguide.com/download/?force_file=/2012/06/Prometheus_has_landed.mp4][i]The landing Prometheus spacecraft follows shots from outer space through the planet’s harsh atmosphere and onto the surface.[/i][/url] Hm, still wondering if there's something intentionally deleted for some reason? I am... confused.

Missing "Prometheus has Landed" is not as bad as the entire crew not noticing the FIVE buildings (referred to as "Structures in the movie) as they are landing. Count them folks. Nobody on the deck of the ship said a word. In addition, there was a SKULL engraved in a mountain somewhere, which is shown during the storm, but somebody should have noticed this on the landing. What does all this mean? It means the deck crew was not attentive and they did not put two and two together and say, "Gee willikers, it looks like some kind of intelligent arrangement of buildings, so perhaps there was intelligent life here and this may be a an installation of some kind, perhaps military". I would have expected this from at least the biologist, who was a skeptic that any life existed, past or present. All of this said, the sequence of atmosphere entry then flyover is one of the best sequences in the film. I love the thought of such a large ship, providing relative comfort and coziness to a crew. It is so large, and you can be in any area of the ship during entry and flyover and be comfortable. This means the technology was so far advanced that all systems were triple or quadruple redundant, with very infrequent maintenance required, or auto-maintenance available, with no concern about any system failure whatsoever. It is like being on an ocean liner where huge waves are rarely noticed on very large liners and on board systems are highly redundant so safety is almost a guarantee. Remember, they were still flying as smooth as silk after almost 3 years in space, and no engine failure, no computer system failure, no communication failure, and everything worked as expected. The scene shows the crew snugly secured to their huge comfortable chairs, everyone in close proximity for discussion, the captain using fly-by-wire, along with his first mates. It was just a great sequence and I would like to have seen just a little more.

Way too picky. If they had gone wittering on about the number of 'structures', that would have been completely distracting and pointless. As it is, silence is golden, and you get to see a look of awe on the crew's faces when they've landed. Your suggestion would have ruined the scene IMHO. As an audience, we don't need to be reminded of what's plainly shown to us. [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/33oodva.jpg[/img]

That's not my main point, which was the fly over, which would have added more "gut appeal" if it were longer by just a hair. However, I must disagree on the point. Remember, I was replying to "How could they miss Prometheus has Landed"? Not picky because they could miss it, in the same way they missed the structures, that's all. The structures give immediate clues as to intelligence vs. the question "is this natural" asked by Charlie on the first run in. Multiple buildings of the same style lined up perfectly answers that question. Not picky because there is no further investigation of those structures in the film and it is assumed the first is like the remaining, which can be false, and often is. For example, there could be other Engineers in sleep chambers, we don't know that there are not. If so, Dr. Shah has more trouble awaiting her. How about when Charlie first notices "Straight lines are not made by God" that he simply says, "Straight lines are not made by God and neither are 5 buildings of the same style and alignment" and then during the meat of the film we dispatch "Pups" to the other structures to rule out that "They are all dead" or "There is one left." Saying "There is one left" is not certain if the five are not addressed. It is a hole in the film that is addressed by simple changes.

THe straight lines reference was the beginning of something to think that some intelligence is or has been here. Seeing just one structure would be quite interesting but seeing several more all arranged in a pattern would raise a 'proceed with caution' flag of some kind. There a no other reference to the many buildings til David's comments about 'there are many more spaceships'. I don't recall if he refers to Juggernauts or some other flying vessel. But the vastness on this moon with just 1 known grouping of buildings would raise concers in am ilitary operation. Since this is a science trip perhaps exploring is the main motive. Still you sort of wonder why not some military(or at least some sort of security for the crew beyond the flamethrower) presence on the Prometheues or even obvious Engineer security are not included in the film. Wayland/David having advanced knowledge of what they would find or something as simple as picture length may be the reason.

@allessior At the point where Holloway mentions straight lines, he was doing so in response to the computer identifying and highlighting the Engineers' roads that led to the pyramids. At that time, the Prometheus was still entering the valley and the pyramids had not swung into view. So he could not possibly have made your day by yapping on about the number of pyramids at that time. There was no further investigation of the other pyramids because events turned against them. Do you suppose for one nanosecond that they would have simply ignored all the others had things gone to plan? David certainly didn't, and that's how he knows there are 'many other ships'.

5... 4... 3... 2... 1... Prometheus has landed. that's what every promotional trailer showed, that's the EXPECTATION while watching the film, that, "Right, here we go," moment has finally arrived, touchdown on an alien (hostile?) planet by arrogant and demanding humans has finally been achieved - get ready for the horror rollercoaster, the true alien prequel. But Prometheus was never either, once (the ghost of) Lindelof was on board.

Custodian, I'm beginning to see your point of view. But only if I imagine your posting spoken out loud in the style of Forrest Gump. You forgot to add IMHO. Which is what you have. An opinion. My own opinion is in stark contrast to yours. One that doesn't get stuck in a rut when promotional material turns out to be different to the end product. Or follows the 'rules' of a plain old prequel.

This is a truly exceptional movie but it does have gaps. For example, "God doesn't create in straight lines" in the landing sequence contradicts "I would like to know if that structure is natural" during the first ride over, which contradicts the clearly visible repetition of this structure 5 times on the landing. So Dr. Halloway answers the question for everybody and Ridley, or the screen play director, shows us the structure repetition during the landing sequence. In addition, the opening scene shows a "classic saucer" gliding (via shadow) over a water-rich landscape, with some "green matter", presumably grass or weeds or some green plant life. In contrast, the atmosphere entry and glide over of Prometheus shows a completely barren landscape, devoid of visible water streams and plant life, just some snow caps. So if we are to believe that the Engineer in the opening scene is saving mankind by unleashing the bio-weapons on those Engineers who want to kill mankind, then it must have necessarily been the case that those embryos in the river developed into monsters that not only killed the bad Engineers, but also devoured the water and the plant life. In addition, the opening scene is more consistent with a good Engineer (Prometheus in mythology) unleashing the attributes of all life, which includes the development of humans. The place looks like earth, with streams and plant life, and Prometheus is creating life attributes. If it was the case that the opening Engineer was planting the bio-weapons in the river, then one would think that at least some of the bad Engineers would have detected it and would be actively trying to subvert it, and trying to shoot the classic saucer down. So, yes, this movie is excellent from a thinking and cinematic perspective, and the Prometheus ship itself is exciting, but in practical terms, as much as we know what Ridley had intended, there are these "mistakes" which kind of tell a different story then what he had intended. In another case, Shaw sends a message to Earth toward the end of the movie, but that message will need to travel 3.27 x 10^14 miles before Earth hears it, and that will take about 2 years if the message travels over light as opposed to radio. If it takes 2 years, Earth may have sent "finder" ships or more scientific vessels to LV-223 long before the message arrives, which means these new ships could meet the same horrible fate. So this movie is for brains indeed and is also very entertaining to boot.