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why is THE THING (2011) a worthy prequel?

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Custodian

MemberOvomorphAug-10-2012 9:27 AM
The Thing (2011) goes back and examines the action in the Scandinavian base that took place just before the action in the American base in one of my MOST FAVOURITE films of all time, The Thing (1982). I can't understand why this 2011 prequel got such an amount of stick from tonnes of reviewers, it really does all it needs to do... AND YES, THIS RELATES TO P R O M E T H E U S (!) ...first, and the only answer to why it's worthy, "It does exactly what it says on the tin," in that it GETS YOU TO THAT POINT IN THE 1982 version where the action starts. And it does it in an intelligent and properly vicious and surrealistically f***ed-up-and-paranoid way. Even the two-faced thing they find and take back to base is here; we see its 'facial contact' origins. But this film has its own 'alien test' too, and this one's a corker. I sorta wish the whole 2011 film was in Scandinavian, with subtitles, that would have been 'icing on cake' but the American heroine was feisty enough - and that spaceship, real proper nice. Anyway, if P R O M E T H E U S had just got on with explaining AS RIDLEY SCOTT PROMISED how the Elephantine[i]'spacejockey'[/i]Ganesha got to be in his timespace telescope chair with a hole in his chest, how/why it crash landed on LV-426, how/why the distress signal was activated, when he marketed that thing as a prequel, even if he only did it in the last five minutes as the The Thing 2011 prequel did, just tied it all together in two hours, maybe it wouldn't have got such 'stick' from the critics. You could have inserted all'a that lovely [i]black goo[/i] genetic stuff (though not necessarily as an Ancient People's pointing at stars device) and still aimed your narrative DIRECTLY at Scott's seminal 1979 classic, Alien, without too much pain (for the fan). Ya know?
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shambs

MemberOvomorphAug-11-2012 11:28 AM
Ok I know it's a prequel to the John Carpenter film, but some things are similar to the 1952 classic "The Thing from Another World" by Howard Hawks. For example, the alien pilot is inside an ice cube as in the original; then this movie looks like a remake of the original and also a prequel to "The Thing" 1982.

Minisuit

MemberOvomorphAug-11-2012 12:24 PM
Of course it has to do it since its a prequel...so leave that out, and you got nothing to praise about the piece of crap movie. No suspense, no thrill, nothing worthy to discuss about. Garbage ass movie, I can't believe you even mentioned this movie next to Prometheus as if it has any connection.

Lone

MemberPraetorianAug-11-2012 2:39 PM
@ Shambalasaur- 'The Thing From Another World' was produced by Howard Hawks, the director was Christian Nyby! Just sayin' :-)

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

shambs

MemberOvomorphAug-11-2012 2:42 PM
thanks for the correction Lone ;)

Custodian

MemberOvomorphAug-12-2012 5:04 AM
Minisuit, as I said, "I disagree with your review," this was a lovely film with a great cast of Scandinavian superstars. AND IT DID THE JOB.
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Custodian

MemberOvomorphAug-12-2012 5:07 AM
Snorkel and the others, 1) explain the Space Jockey - didn't (so many reasons/issues) 2) get to the point where the distress beacon is picked up - didn't. I'll admit that P R O M E T H E U S wasn't a prequel, even though "that was it's purpose". Don't blinker yourselves, "You all wanted to know WHY Alien was." You were all let down. My REAL point here is, "Sure, things change, but they don't (necessarily) evolve." Q: is this 'prequelness' question even more contentious than that 'canon' questions?
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Custodian

MemberOvomorphAug-12-2012 5:09 AM
ZZplural, on the 'patience' issue, I do hope you're right, I do hope the 'prequel' will finally arrive (and not be just some throw-away TV Series). Seriously.
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aircraftfixer

MemberOvomorphAug-12-2012 9:31 AM
A bit of a repeat of a post I made long ago, but- I wasn't impressed with 2011's The Thing, although (IMHO) it was a much better prequel than Prometheus was to Alien. My take on "The Thing (2011)" falls short of what I enjoy in a sequel, because; except for a few interesting novelties, IT WAS THE EXACT SAME STORY as John Carpenter's! No new ideas or enlightenment with regard to the events that would be portrayed just hours (in movie time) later. The Thing simply devoured/assimilated/destroyed the Norwegians and then a variation of it just escapes and does the same to the Americans and their camp. It did answer most of the questions asked 28 years earlier (in real time), but would have been a much better prequel if it had shown, for example: The Norwegians having gotten really, really close (because of smarts- as they were scientists, there for that specific reason- not randomly encountered lay people as many of the Americans were) to conquering this nemesis- but run out of time or resources or something. Then; by movie's end, the clever (or just lucky?) Thing could have (again- for example) outwitted the Norwegian's last survivors well thought out, absolutely foolproof & guaranteed to work plan- perhaps by some accident or other such reverse deus ex machina in that film. Then The Thing as a dog could escape one last time- leaving the viewer with exasperation, knowing that the Norwegians came THAT CLOSE to victory- and wishing that the Americans hadn't ignorantly killed; instead of wounding, the very last Norwegian who knew the secret to destroying "The Thing"- despite his language gap. THIS (the above) would have satisfied my requirement for creativity to the prequel of 1983's The Thing. Compared to this, Prometheus dropped the ball completely- due to Mr. Lindelof's worship of ambiguity, and his statement made in an interview that "inevitability is not interesting" and later, "What happened to the Space Jockey isn't important". He isn't creative at all IMHO, but perhaps would make a much better game show researcher- as he seems to excel at asking questions that defy continuity, and lack corroborative and conclusive answers.

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphAug-12-2012 9:43 AM
Ah, no, hate to have to burst your bubble, but that dog didn't look at all like the one from the original. It didn't have the bandit-like face markings, it had black down one side of it's face where as the dog seen in the original had markings that caused it to look like it had a black mask over it's eyes. Sloppy, considering the amount of time and effort they put into fitting the rest of it in with the original.................. When I saw the dog they were using I groaned, shook my head and nearly walked out, but I'd paid good money to see it............... I mean, seriously? That hard to find a dog with similar, if not near identical markings? I think not.............. I also remember the Norwegians blowing the ship outta the ice........... Remember that bit, where the Americans find the video tapes? And you see a big 'splosion where they're digging the ship out of the ice? But, no, lets instead make that the ships engines starting up and throw the whole continuity thing out, shall we? Those 2 thing ruined the movie for me. That, and the CGI over good practical effects........................
[url=http://www.robocopmovie.net/][img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/NewRoboBanner.jpg[/img][/url] "Is it dead this time?" "I dunno, poke it with this stick and see."

Custodian

MemberOvomorphAug-12-2012 10:56 AM
[i]"Compared to this, Prometheus dropped the ball completely- due to Mr. Lindelof's worship of ambiguity, and his statement made in an interview that "inevitability is not interesting" and later, "What happened to the Space Jockey isn't important"." [/i] well put aircraftfixer, hence this thread. :)
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Precursors

MemberOvomorphAug-13-2012 10:30 AM
That prequel was horrible. The reason that the thing original was so great was because there was no cheesy digital effects. They used real puppets that captured your imagination. The prequel was a bunch of virtual crap. a last ditch attempt to make a buck off a already existing fan base. I’m so sick of remakes and prequels. that’s how you know the end of the world is coming. Everything has already been invented. Anyway this fact speaks to the overwhelming awesomeness of Prometheus because it fought the odds in my onion.

chthon

MemberOvomorphAug-14-2012 4:36 AM
So if a prequel answers ALL the questions (Star Wars, The Thing) it's bad. If a prequel asks new questions (Prometheus) it's bad. I am glad Ridley didn't answer the questions. Go Ridley!!!
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