Future of the series - Prometheus' Sequel(s) - Ideas, Expectations & Desires

Linking: Prometheus, Alien/xenomorph, Predator, Human, Robot/s/Borg/s, Stargate, Theology, Neurology, Genetics, Sleeping, Memory during soul changing bodies, Universes, Hulk, Thor, Gandalf, Darth Vader, Avatar, etc From Genetical/Research point of view: reality is the particular expression of the particular genes with the particular environment. This is easy to understand and explains it all (both human and extraterrestrial evolution). So that is why for example, it is only normal for aliens to be different coming out from the different humans, as well as different when come out of different creatures. So we’ve already covered that few times in most films mentioned above. Question now is how this links with the robots. First its the obvious robots evolution leading to Borg’s. So easy cycle of it all could involve the Borg evolve so much they make it all in yocto(10x-24) level, that looks to us as “matter”. Fact is the deeper we see things the more organised they look! BUT thats also NOT a NEWs, so robots made creatures, creatures made robots, so what. Some lived long, some longer, some even went to other universes. Even the “Stargate” “architects” seemed to appreciate diversity. Irrelevant if its all a game to anyone, or if the “engineers” discover (once she go to their planet with the robot) among the many they’ve created (e.g. alien, predator, etc) there are these humans that look alot like them, and evolved enough to create robots. However clearly the soul in robots is neither NEW, nor uncovered, so all that cycle needs a NEW twist and a reason (if you will). So I’ve been going through linking Sciences (genetics, biology, medicine, physics, chemistry), theology (philosophies, psychologies, religions, science links, etc), neurons, memory, abilities, realities, freedom, etc [here is a short summary of this in 7 pages : ) https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7ZfEwfaQIcNTTVHaHNLcWJRcDQ/edit?pli=1 ]: there are long stories there and alot about the soul-body interaction and we always go to sleep, but not always wake up (and yes that also applies to robots, although they sleep less, but souls can get from a body to another body, as well as to a robot. The memory of what we agree to remember when we change bodies is another long story there described. Apparently all that I was NOT suppose to remember, nor describe to all of you, so enjoy it till it lasts. Anyway the point is that even though there are loads of NEW stuff in these stories (which my soul seems to have experienced) there comes a time, when you “know” its NOT an accident and the whole thing is too complicated to has happened (and still happening all over the universes) per chance. So it is then when that adrenalin comes over, when consider that idea of this God, beyond all that above. Its then when your soul freezes out of time and its all somewhat reachable (not easy, but possible) to even be head of cycling all that you know (see above), and its THEN when you even get bored, fed up of these games, this climb, this evolution, BUT its then when this infinite eternal sparkle of life inside your soul lights up “again” and brings you to enjoy it all, as you know already that its NOT just about all you know (see above), but for the fact that its always something NEW somehow coming/appearing/evolving/etc, and that is why we change bodies, and that is why we keep spending time in this universes, and it that doesn’t split your head open, nor the fact that out of these universes this NEW also exist, then you don’t forget that its NOT just the NEW that drives us to keep going, but its the NEW that we enjoy : ) NOTE that just having the view of things existing is often part of this Joy. So some may ask how is being an alien joy. Well clearly any additional ability to humans can easily seems a reason to many to switch to such body in no time, so thats just one example of a fact, but same apply to much more advanced creatures (and yes robots are also creatures, well you know the ones I mean like positronic brain and all that stuff : )). So in Prometheus 2, I expect to see two possibilities: the engineers showing interest in the human idea of going beyond this universe, so the soul can travel in a NEW universe; OR the human going there and destroying them, becoming dominant species in this universe, so that now the humans start making them kind of experiments, for example with that Borgs, and/or that reactive “black goo” (and clearly the “engineer” from the start of the film eating the black goo wasn’t sacralising them self, but that was simply same like we do human-experiments hoping to get some improvements. Well clearly it didn’t work well for him, and they knew if anything evolve enough as a result they eventually will know about it (plus it was suggested we’ve been watched over time and even given some ideas how to contact them), so clearly the “engineers” didn’t wanted to destroy humans, but instead have been helping over time. That angry one that was awoken may have had some other reasons (maybe he thought predators will use us as hosts to breed aliens and make black goo of them, by leaving them to self digest in their own juice/acid/etc, and make experiments and evolve more than they want, as they may already have difficulties with the barbarian fast evolution of predators, going out of their control). Whatever it was, its clear that the race as a whole is NOT against humans, BUT it is playing with black goo, and dislikes aliens, so maybe that will be that critical time in human evolution, when humans evolve enough to meet their makers, just like the robots meet us at some point, and how in our soul-memories somewhere somehow we meet the Borgs as creators of life-forms, so overall its all very connected and we can NOT say who was the first creator and what is he up to now, BUT its this that keeps us brave even though we know we are made evolving, infinite, creating, etc things are beyond good and bad and perfect, and love and hate and even joy : ) so if this God made us this way before any of that even existed, THEN we feel like kids with a parent : ) and that my friends and fellow earthlings is what keeps us beyond things like limitations like supreme-power, know-it-all, etc. So it will be more interesting IF humans and other creatures together go to search more about this God, as we all know that there will be no end to these findings and we enjoy it, so : ) lets keep doing it ; ) ps: i can go forever like that, but its all theory, so I better go do something/experiments/research/etc ; ) afterall that is why I am using that human body, right. Oohps : ) ps: and NO its NOT a different universe Hulk, Thor, X-men, Super-men, Avatar, etc and all that jazz, its just different planets and abilities/evolution : ) mutation is clearly a fast evolving goo ; ) and messing with the soul has always interested Gandalf and Darth Vader type, so nothing NEW here. ps: you can see how it will be hard to find someone to be able/qualified to certify me : ) but, ermh yeah I am not really sure if I go crazy sometimes ; ) so ermh yeah ignore me, if you are not there yet! Thanks Will Stoyanov

Prometheus 2 Pitch After the disappearance of Weyland's Prometheus ship and mission. Yutani Corporation makes a hostile take over of the Weyland Corp. and sends a new ship to LV 223 The Akagi Maru The ship has company scientists, government officials and military personnel. Once arrived on LV 223 They find still alive in a an emergency cryo tube "Meredith Vickers" Meredith recovers and shows the location of the Derelicts to the new team from the Akagi. She wants to go back and explains the horrors of what this place was but has no choice but to go with the Weyland-Yutani's crew to the closest Derelict A second more advanced military android named Kato, was sent with the Akagi crew. After arriving at the destroyed crashed Derelict, Kato turns on one of the ships navigation systems. The Kato finds a way to connect to the ships mainframe and by accident Kato is linked to it and receives data and learns the truth to the Space Jokeyes and Human connection. Kato starts talking in a deep voice " The Space Jockeys were an advanced biological robots system created by superior beings from an old dying civilization. Humans were an improved version of the Space Jokey. Humans were created for food. The Humans were designed to destroy each other. To control over population an evil "envy gene" was implanted. The Space Jockeys wanted to destroy humans and the Creator. Kato says that the Creator beings were beleived to be destroyed in a war by the Space Jokeys. The Creator beings released their ultimate weapon the Xenomorph. The crashed Derelict space display hologram shows a flashing light in an orbit next to an apparent dead planet called LV 426. The crew of Akagi with Meredith decide to go. Once in orbit close to LV 426 the Akagi crew and Meredith finds a Derelict ship to their surprise. Lights around the Derelict ship are flashing. A small door opens as an invitation. The Akagi crew goes in. Once inside the ship and at its cockpit conteol center the crew finds David!! The Akagi crew looks worried as teenagers that made a mistake. David was dysfunctional with severe bite marks on his face. Kato tries to connect to David with no avail. David is totally disfigured but finally he turns on and with the remaining eye watches them. David asks Kato to download his memories and turn him off. Meredith asked David if another Engineer was on the ship? David says No. Meredith then asks him " Who brought you here? Davis answers Shaw. After a few seconds later Kato turns around, drops David's head and faces the crew to say "Are you willing to die to find your answers" Meredith shouts out at Kato "What are you trying to say you stupid machine! Where is Shaw? Is there another Engineer? Who piloted this ship? Kato says I did with Shaw who brought me here. Where is Shaw? Where is she??? Says Meredith. Kato says "It is in the ship" Shaw is no more! What's in the Ship??? Says Meredith. Kato says with a frozen and dead look "The Creator" The Creator was waiting for us to be reborn! To be continued.... What do you think so far???

I truly believe the Prometheus sequels need to advance further with with a sequel that primarily focuses on Dr. Shaw and David's journey to the "Engineers planet" which covers the existence of the biological xeno dna. The last sequel should lead up to the xeno evolution platform on Lv223 a spot where dna research was conducted and disaster struck.

a dead end to go back to the world of Alien 1. Ridley tried that in Aliens and lost out, basically because of weak leadership from the military side. if P2 does not kick the butt of the aliens for good, what good is fighting another battle, say against the Engineer world? seems that even the Engineers have trouble with large Squids and aliens hatching inside of them ... someone is going to have to take on the aliens with some serious thought. in P1 the science crew stumble from one error to the other... everything bites them (snakes, worms, zombies, aliens, squids, cobra-like snakes, water snakes and goo...).there has to be some pay back some day. so far the aliens have won hands down, except to the Predators who know how to deal with them. after P1 we could use a more determined reply to the aliens, if need be also to the (bad) Engineers in the coming P2 film. in P1 Dr. Shaw and her science crew are totally ineffectual, continually on the run, always recuperating, on the defensive. they have no initiative. they stumble torwards the end of the film & the story ends with another alien victory over the Engineers and over the entire crew of the Prometheus ... so much for the year 2092 or 2093. well, with a spaceship captain only interested in Vickers' bedroom, what should one expect ? weak leadership leads nowhere ... and Dr. Shaw could not convince her people that she was in charge ... she did not convice her audience either. question: is Dr. Shaw up for the job ahead ?

I feel there should be three casts and the casts being 1. Religious cast who seeded life on Terra Firma and possibly many other worlds 2. Engineer cast who are the builders of there technology and 3. Warrior Cast who are the muscle incredible hulks in size like the first space jocky we saw in Alien and they do the other two casts biding . Somewhere along the line there was a conflict of interests which lead to all out war with both sides trying to gain control over the warrior cast as the war grew the Engineer cast unleashed there unfinished bio weapon which sent all the casts into disarray and hiding in long term sleep stasis because of the magnitude, hostility and intelligence of the weapon . So when Shaw and David leave for Paradise (which could be a world terraformed by the three casts designs to be a paradise not there real home world) in an Engineers ship they could kick start another war because when they arrive at the planet it would be monitored by the religious cast seeing them in an Engineers ship who are also trying to remove the different versions or mutations of Deacons. with the arrival of humans in an engineers ship with more humans surely to follow the Religious cast would have to stop the humans getting infected and spreading to more worlds . This is just an Idea If you like it let me know because I have more I know there are holes but that's where you guys come in .

I have nothing to add at this point. I just want to say that everyone has very good ideas on what could happen in future installments of the series. I see a lot of comments on the web about how 20th Century Fox and Ridley Scott don't have any idea what to do after Prometheus. This is false. They have a lot of options. They know what they are doing. The only hard decisions are pinning down where you want to go. The way for Prometheus 2 is clear. But the adventure could be expanded in different ways.

Your right Phadrus and I'm sure they wont disappoint there is so much they can do with the story and I don't mind if they take extra time as a movie of this magnitude needs to be spot on .

Ok here is an idea. If the aliens are created when you have the engineers infected and then the alien then infects a human to make the Xenos we know about today. Then there is the possibility that there were humans in the first ship from the Prometheus and it was just such a long time that any remains wouldn't show up. And if you go with the idea that there was a split in the Engineer society who is to say that there were humans on the homeworld and the rogues infected their people which in turn infected the humans and some tried to get off the world and crashed landed with the first queen on the Planet-toid that we see in the first Alien movie. Shaw could make it to the homeworld and learn all of this and the likely hood that none survived and she could meet an Alien even closer to the Xenos.

I always admired, Alien, movie concept. Its a plausible future! Besides being a great story. I had a question regarding the science: Was the Engineer DNA that matched INFECTED by the bio-weapon? If so, would that mean we are part Alien and part Engineer. Maybe someone could clear this up for me.

A message for those who are working on Prometheus II script. Keep close to the work of Zecharia Sitchin.

AgRose001 › that sounds awesome i like the idea of a split with the Engineer race . what else you got ?

the short of it: Dr. Shaw with co-pilot David-8 are heading for answers. namely, the one question, why destroy homo sapiens (as was the plan 2000 yrs ago on LV-223) having created us bipeds with their goo DNA construct ? this is the question we are left with at the end of P1 as the Engineer vessel leaves the moon LV-223. next question: does it make sense to build a story ( say the P2 story ) on "what have we done" or "what is it about us that merits annihilation ?" actually, there is nothing about mankind's behaviour that guarantees us longevity - au contraire, our sins are legion. what I am suggesting ... is that there is no reason to spare us humans... looking at the (to use a polite word) messes we have caused since our discovery of fire and iron to make weapons. another problem with this leitmotiv of "why gooo us? " is that once Dr. Shaw meets our "Makers" we subsequently suspect that they (our Makers) they too were made by someone who is their superior ... who helped them along in their evolution ? the known universe of today is a large place ( science tells us ... 92 billion light yrs in diameter, 46 billion its radius ... we can't see the rest ) and it is therefore unlikely that the Earth story or even the Makers home world story somehow represents a beginning or central station. The script of Prometheus 2 might do well in not trying to find all the answers to our unanswered questions. Best to leave Dr. Shaw in the dark where she comes from. After all, Dr. Shaw still has her shiny little cross ... something David's logical clarity doesn't have or need : faith.

Welll Hades Infernal › The idea I had for how the Engineers split would be like if nearly all the Engineers are peaceful people who while powerful and before they became peaceful were war like, but some never wanted to get rid of their ways and so they developed the way to kill the others. Depending on how you want to go with it you could go on to say that the peaceful Engineers still had some old weapons from before that they used to lay waste to the planet and it could be that the Engineers are a dyeing race that were watching earth to see if anyone on there could be used as a way to get their race going again. Humans then could have been taken from our world to theirs to find a way to save their race. Going from here it would depend on how it should go because the Planetoid from Alien could have been the homeworld of the small number of Engineers and the weapons could have made it into the dead planetoid full of Xenomorphs.

It seems to be to be pretty clear why the "engineers" did not send anymore ships to the planet----like the captain of Prometheus said near the end of the movie--this planet was the staging area for this biologic life form that they were going to unleash on Earth---they knew the thing was going to be dangerous---and since they never heard from the ships that went there and it was also obvious that the mission to destroy humans had failed----they figured that there was a major failure on the staging planet and they basically quarantined the planet---and of course---it is also possible---the life form they created---got lose on their homeworld and came to destroy their civilization.

Prometheus was given a 4/4 by Roger Ebert, who was a respected film critic to say the least! I have a few theories of my own for some of the possible scenerios that could or will happen in a sequel or sequals.. A. Elizabeth & David go off to paradise which is either the Space Jockey home world or what's left of it, or David even guides the journey to the Xenomorph home world maybe even after going to the Space Jockey home world! (Lindelof even said he liked the idea of David programing the jourey to futuristic Earth at the films start to get a new crew without Shaw knowing initially, as a part of Weylands possibile "fail-safe" plan which would be similar & mirror Aliens) (I don't know if Ridley Scott likes that idea though) B. Yutani or Weyland (or both) sending a team/teams to LV-223 to try and find out what happened to the Prometheus, only to discover what happened & the Deacon..... C. If there are different Space Jockey groups left, are there any "good ones"? D. I think David has a crush on Elizabeth, and I think Elizebeth may even fall for it which would lead to her trusting him to put his head back on, and what happens after would be interesting to find out whatever point this happens in the film. E. Space Jesus & what happened 2,000 years ago, was it a (good vs. evil) Space Jockey battle, implied in the Space Jockey hologram juggernaut vs ufo space battle easter-egg in Aliens: Colonial Marines? (despite your opinion on the game, it's considered cannon to the Alien Franchise) F. If a new Weyland or Yutani team goes to LV-223, it would be awesome to have a new "David" model that's got 100% evil programing missions to mirror & be "Ash-like" because having Fassbender do a double-personality of 2 same yet different characters and he's the actor that could pull it off, David is my favorite character in Prometheus! G. I would really love to see when the merger between the two Weyland-Yutani companies happens, which I think will be shown in the sequal or the next one if they make a trilogy!

I haven’t seen this idea elsewhere on the forum, and I wanted to share this with you guys. Here is my take on how it all finally ends, and how the prequel directly bridges with the rest of the franchise (in my opinion Alien and Aliens): Shaw is the space jockey seen in the original Alien movie. When Shaw arrives in paradise, she discovers (as many on the forum already have suggested) that the engineers are made by – and servants to a superior alien race (SAR/God(s)). The meeting between Shaw and the SAR is seemingly fruitful, it answers some questions (who the engineers are, what the xenomorph is, what happened on the moon LV-223, etc.), and leaves other questions open and never to be answered (who the SAR are, what their mission is, whether they created us or not, etc.). The SAR is impressed by Shaw, and this changes their view on humans. She is therefore offered a spacecraft as a gift so that she can go back to earth; provide humans with alien technology as proof that we are not alone, to facilitate technological advancement and knowledge, and finally as a token of a future friendship between SAR and humans. On her way back home she discovers that the spacecraft is filled with xenomorph eggs, and gets impregnated. This reveals the SAR’s true intention behind the gift, namely to destroy/control the human race. There is room for only one God in the universe, and God is not necessarily good. Knowing she will not be alive to warn humans about the dangers contained in the spacecraft, she lands on the planetoid LV-426 to stop the ship from reaching earth. When the xenomorph breaks through Shaws ribs and space suit, this triggers the warning signal you hear in the original alien movie. The end. To make this plot even more interesting, David, who now presumably is free from the wishes of Weyland (inc.), might have is own ambitions. This can lead to some exciting twists and turns, as it is customary in the Alien franchise for the humanoid robot to stir things up a bit.

never mind: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45027.0

i have to say that the movie was great,i didnt post sooner because i did some research,ive come to the conclusion that the predators are the engineers,what do you think lemme know.im glad that i found proof that all three species were on the same planet,predators, engineers and aliens,on lv223

the engineers are predators

black goo turns them into predators,only the chosen may enter didnt meen the sacraficial vergins,it meant the engineers that were chosen to become predators,the engineer at start of movie he wasnt sacrificing himself,he was chosen to become a predator