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MemberOvomorphDec-22-2012 9:08 PMJust watched Prometheus again on DVD, only the 2nd time of viewing since I saw it in the cinema. I was hoping I might get a bit more out of it than the disappointing first viewing. But it was just as bad this time around. I so wanted to like this film but it's massively disappointing to me on so many levels. The plot I thought was terrible, the acting mostly terrible. It looked amazing but it's let down everywhere else. Sorry for the negativity. I know it doesn't go down well around these parts but I just had to voice my disappointment somewhere. When you talk to most people about it they think you're crazy because it's just a movie. But coming from the director of Alien and Blade Runner it's much more than just a movie ...... Or at least it should have been! :-(
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BLANDCorporatio
MemberOvomorphDec-25-2012 12:04 PMCool bike and I dig the hat :)
The whole point of this is lost if you keep it a secret.
nostromo001
MemberOvomorphDec-26-2012 1:01 AMHa! I think it was because I was concentrating on getting a good rendering:)...and I guess you are right and i wanted to be taken seriously if someday someone finds this. PS I went back to school in my forties , yes I am a vampire and am therefore immortal. lol. I remember being a bit insecure going back to school later in life thinking all those sharp kids were going to kick my ass but it was the other way around and I would ask questions in class that they never had the time to have a passing knowledge of simply because I had lived on this world a longer time and had absorbed a lot of info generally. One of them even asked how I knew all that extra stuff that wasn't even in the text and my professor, who wound up being my undergrad research director said I don't know how he knows that stuff. So going into grad school older is a major advantage and I am sure you will do better than you would have if you were younger. Genetics and cell culturing will definitely land you a job when you get out of grad school. Do go for a PhD though. In America in a lot of schools you can get your Masters on the way of working on your PhD.
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nostromo001
MemberOvomorphDec-27-2012 8:17 AMThanks BLANDC! Ya gotta have style:)
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db73
MemberOvomorphDec-29-2012 3:49 AM[b][quote]db73, since you are so extremely disappointed with the movie, I gotta ask what parts or aspects of it bothered you so much?[/quote][/b]
Christ, where to begin! So much wrong with this film. To many questions not enough answers (Lindelof has got a lot to answer for), hopelessly flawed characters impossible to empathise with, weak script and dialogue .... It goes on. I guess the big problem here is that expectations were very high and difficult to meet. But coming from RS, the man behind two of the most pivotal Sci-Fi films ever made, I don't think it was a big stretch to expect big things. Visually the film is stunning. No doubt about that. It's beautiful. Sadly its let down everywhere else.
The film has got people talking. That's not a bad thing. But we're trying to make sense of the story when what we've been given to go on is pretty ambiguous. You can make of it what you will, and people are doing this. People are also looking ahead to a sequel for answers. I don't think a film, even if it's part of a series, should have you needing a sequel the instant you leave the cinema. There needs to be something tangible to get your teeth into and with Prometheus i don't think we had this.
nostromo001
MemberOvomorphDec-29-2012 7:28 AMdb73 I understand that some people like to have a movie answer questions and sew up all the lose ends but I actually like ambiguity in a movie that forces people to think for themselves. To make an analogy, its like in the field of art, abstract expressionism compared to photo realism. Both have their places and its a matter of taste. Look at how much fun all of us here at this site have had trading ideas and working on the questions raised by the movie together as a devoted community. I am having a blast geeking out along with my geek brothers and sisters. Sometimes its better to not answer all the questions and leave the interpretation up to the viewer's perception just like in art. This movie is related to art in another way as well. RS is an extremely visually oriented director to the point of being an artist's artist/ director. Sometimes I will just watch the movie to see the exquisite visuals like the holographic map for example and a million other examples. Regarding the acting, I couldn't disagree more when it comes to the performances of Michael Fassbender, Noomi Rapace, Charlize Theron, the actors who played Idris Elba, Sean Harris and Guy Pierce, although they had changed their mind and had planned on using him as a younger man too. Fassbender is one of the best actors out there today and many, many people will agree with me there. Same for Charlize Theron and Noomi Rapace. I also had absolutely no trouble emphasizing with the characters except for Millburn. The script, not in spite of its ambiguity but rather because of its ambiguity was in the end, after much evolution an excellent script. If you read Jon Spaihts script which I believe you did, how on earth can you argue that it was better than the final collaborative script? It was just childish, derivative to the earlier alien movie franchise including a damned xenomorph loose on the ship AGAIN! another chestbursted crew member and David's one dimensional all evil programmed character. It was just another slice and dice movie set in space before Damon Lindelov came along and shifted the focus onto the Engineers and asked the big questions. I loved the final version of David where all of his comments had double meanings and were full of equivocations. You never knew what he was thinking or what he would do next.
Finely it was a conscious decision to leave out scenes that gave too much away and were too 'on the nose' as RS put it. There are clues that Damon Lindelov said are clear enough such that if you had to guess at them you would probably come up with the right answers that the writers and director had in mind. The fatal event on the Engineer's ship happened 2000 years ago. What does that bring to mind? If the writers . director made some direct tie in about Christianity then nothing would be left to the imagination and the movie would wind up just sh*t. This way the movie is about what 'may be out there' according to Scott, not what IS out there and in the end it is left to your imagination instead of everything spoon fed to the viewer. I don't know about you but I would rather think about a movie rather than have it all layed out as plain as day.
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db73
MemberOvomorphJan-04-2013 5:30 PM[b][quote] I don't know about you but I would rather think about a movie rather than have it all layed out as plain as day[/quote][/b]
I agree. I like movies that give you plenty to think about. But with Prometheus you're not thinking about it because it's profound. You're trying to make sense of it - why did this happen? What did this mean? Why were most of the crew complete numpties? Why? Why? Why? A lot of good stuff in Prometheus but a lot of stupid stuff as well. It's a flawed movie that didn't live up to its potential. I think the blu-ray's tag line of 'questions will be answered' speaks volumes about the realisation, on the part of the film makers, that they simply posed to many questions, ultimately leaving audiences confused and baffled by this film. I'm interested to see were on Earth (no pun intended) they go with a sequel. I'm kind of over the whole thing now but I think they've made too much of a mess of the first film to make anything coherent in the second. It's job now will be to make sense of the first film. Not an enviable task for RS and whoever is on writing duties (I hear Lindelof is out. No surprise there).
EDIT: Watched the film a third time on YouTube. I'm over some of the stupidity now. Guess I know it's coming so less concerned. Enjoyed it more this time but ........ Ah, still so disappointed ultimately. I guess it's just not for me. Have to accept that and forget about it. No amount of discussion or comment is going to make the film any better.
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